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Re: Petition started for "compromise" on 34th Ave Open Streets
« Reply #45 on: Yesterday at 03:45:54 PM »
shouldn't those opposing the open streets march on another avenue? after all, using the open street seems counter intuitive.

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Re: Petition started for "compromise" on 34th Ave Open Streets
« Reply #46 on: Yesterday at 08:10:47 PM »
shouldn't those opposing the open streets march on another avenue? after all, using the open street seems counter intuitive.


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Re: Petition started for "compromise" on 34th Ave Open Streets
« Reply #47 on: Yesterday at 09:48:22 PM »
The #34AveCompromise is not trying to block the open street.

We are working toward a compromise that will give people some open space without destroying the quiet beauty of the avenue and the quality of life for those who live on the avenue.

We are also trying to get all residents to know what is happening and to get their voices heard. That is not happening now.

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Re: Petition started for "compromise" on 34th Ave Open Streets
« Reply #48 on: Yesterday at 10:21:22 PM »
shouldn't those opposing the open streets march on another avenue? after all, using the open street seems counter intuitive.



A couple of years ago I thought it would be a good idea if I posted local news on this site. The moderator did not think so and I sent me a warning email.

I find it curious that when someone does not agree with the open street they are subjected to bullying comments.  This seems to be ok here. 

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Re: Petition started for "compromise" on 34th Ave Open Streets
« Reply #49 on: Yesterday at 10:34:41 PM »
how does disagreement constitute "bullying"? i see a lot more anger and aggression in posts from those opposing the idea of open streets, yet i've never played the bullying card.
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Re: Petition started for "compromise" on 34th Ave Open Streets
« Reply #50 on: Yesterday at 11:49:57 PM »
The #34AveCompromise is not trying to block the open street.

We are working toward a compromise that will give people some open space without destroying the quiet beauty of the avenue and the quality of life for those who live on the avenue.

We are also trying to get all residents to know what is happening and to get their voices heard. That is not happening now.

I don't think a steady stream of radio playing and honking cars, trucks and suv's and double parked cars and trucks was exactly the epitome of quiet beauty, nor did it do anything to contribute to the quality of life on 34th ave. In fact one of the primary complaints about the 34th ave open street is the "increased" traffic on surrounding streets. Why can't we just go back to the good old days and get some of that silent and tranquil traffic back on the previously serene and peaceful 34th Ave? /S

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Re: Petition started for "compromise" on 34th Ave Open Streets
« Reply #51 on: Today at 12:42:26 AM »

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I don't think a steady stream of radio playing and honking cars, trucks and suv's and double parked cars and trucks was exactly the epitome of quiet beauty, nor did it do anything to contribute to the quality of life on 34th ave. In fact one of the primary complaints about the 34th ave open street is the "increased" traffic on surrounding streets. Why can't we just go back to the good old days and get some of that silent and tranquil traffic back on the previously serene and peaceful 34th Ave? /S

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Re: Petition started for "compromise" on 34th Ave Open Streets
« Reply #52 on: Today at 09:21:18 AM »
75 to 80% of this neighborhood is immigrants.

The immigrants also have a voice. They definitely have the numbers in Jackson Heights.

And they also have a say over Open Streets.

Perhaps, outside of the bubble of folks on this forum, we might guess what the immigrants' view of OPEN STREETS is?

The real truth is that immigrants' voices are the majority in this neighborhood.


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Re: Petition started for "compromise" on 34th Ave Open Streets
« Reply #53 on: Today at 10:02:37 AM »
75 to 80% of this neighborhood is immigrants.

The immigrants also have a voice. They definitely have the numbers in Jackson Heights.

And they also have a say over Open Streets.

Perhaps, outside of the bubble of folks on this forum, we might guess what the immigrants' view of OPEN STREETS is?

The real truth is that immigrants' voices are the majority in this neighborhood.

Why?

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Re: Petition started for "compromise" on 34th Ave Open Streets
« Reply #54 on: Today at 10:11:54 AM »
75 to 80% of this neighborhood is immigrants.

The immigrants also have a voice. They definitely have the numbers in Jackson Heights.

And they also have a say over Open Streets.

Perhaps, outside of the bubble of folks on this forum, we might guess what the immigrants' view of OPEN STREETS is?

The real truth is that immigrants' voices are the majority in this neighborhood.

Why?
I was born in Queens, so, I do not have a say?

I am a citizen, so, I do not have a say?

I am a man, so, I do not have a say?

I am white, so, I do not have a say?

I am a senior citizen, so, I do not have a say?

I am gay, so, I do not have a say?

Maybe I should illegally move to another country then I would have a say.

If I sound cranky, perhaps it is because I cannot sleep at night because of the street noise.

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Re: Petition started for "compromise" on 34th Ave Open Streets
« Reply #55 on: Today at 10:21:46 AM »
75 to 80% of this neighborhood is immigrants.

The immigrants also have a voice. They definitely have the numbers in Jackson Heights.

And they also have a say over Open Streets.

Perhaps, outside of the bubble of folks on this forum, we might guess what the immigrants' view of OPEN STREETS is?

The real truth is that immigrants' voices are the majority in this neighborhood.

Why?
I was born in Queens, so, I do not have a say?

I am a citizen, so, I do not have a say?

I am a man, so, I do not have a say?

I am white, so, I do not have a say?

I am a senior citizen, so, I do not have a say?

I am gay, so, I do not have a say?

Maybe I should illegally move to another country then I would have a say.

If I sound cranky, perhaps it is because I cannot sleep at night because of the street noise.

34th Ave is closed to pedestrians and reverts to car traffic at 8pm. Your comment about not being able to sleep makes no sense.  Cranky and complaining about cars on 34th Ave?

Yes, of course everyone has a voice.

But, the idea is that the majority gets its way in a democracy. That's the American experiment.

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Re: Petition started for "compromise" on 34th Ave Open Streets
« Reply #56 on: Today at 11:17:33 AM »
The new Streetsfilm video on 34th Ave. Thanks Clarence!
https://vimeo.com/549153207

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Re: Petition started for "compromise" on 34th Ave Open Streets
« Reply #57 on: Today at 11:55:18 AM »
75 to 80% of this neighborhood is immigrants.

The immigrants also have a voice. They definitely have the numbers in Jackson Heights.

And they also have a say over Open Streets.

Perhaps, outside of the bubble of folks on this forum, we might guess what the immigrants' view of OPEN STREETS is?

The real truth is that immigrants' voices are the majority in this neighborhood.

Why?
I was born in Queens, so, I do not have a say?

I am a citizen, so, I do not have a say?

I am a man, so, I do not have a say?

I am white, so, I do not have a say?

I am a senior citizen, so, I do not have a say?

I am gay, so, I do not have a say?

Maybe I should illegally move to another country then I would have a say.

If I sound cranky, perhaps it is because I cannot sleep at night because of the street noise.

34th Ave is closed to pedestrians and reverts to car traffic at 8pm. Your comment about not being able to sleep makes no sense.  Cranky and complaining about cars on 34th Ave?

Yes, of course everyone has a voice.

But, the idea is that the majority gets its way in a democracy. That's the American experiment.
.

People avoid 34th avenue now because they do not know what is going on. It doesn’t matter what time it is.

America is not an experiment. This is just bullshit that you say to get your way.

No one voted on closing 34th Ave. so it has nothing to do with democracy.

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Re: Petition started for "compromise" on 34th Ave Open Streets
« Reply #58 on: Today at 12:22:08 PM »
75 to 80% of this neighborhood is immigrants.

The immigrants also have a voice. They definitely have the numbers in Jackson Heights.

And they also have a say over Open Streets.

Perhaps, outside of the bubble of folks on this forum, we might guess what the immigrants' view of OPEN STREETS is?

The real truth is that immigrants' voices are the majority in this neighborhood.

Why?
I was born in Queens, so, I do not have a say?

I am a citizen, so, I do not have a say?

I am a man, so, I do not have a say?

I am white, so, I do not have a say?

I am a senior citizen, so, I do not have a say?

I am gay, so, I do not have a say?

Maybe I should illegally move to another country then I would have a say.

If I sound cranky, perhaps it is because I cannot sleep at night because of the street noise.

34th Ave is closed to pedestrians and reverts to car traffic at 8pm. Your comment about not being able to sleep makes no sense.  Cranky and complaining about cars on 34th Ave?

Yes, of course everyone has a voice.

But, the idea is that the majority gets its way in a democracy. That's the American experiment.
.

People avoid 34th avenue now because they do not know what is going on. It doesn’t matter what time it is.

America is not an experiment. This is just bullshit that you say to get your way.

No one voted on closing 34th Ave. so it has nothing to do with democracy.

I have learned that arguing with cranky folks, whether online or in life...is ALWAYS fruitless.

Please enjoy your day. Outside, maybe?

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Re: Petition started for "compromise" on 34th Ave Open Streets
« Reply #58 on: Today at 12:22:08 PM »