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Offline 80JHer

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Post office drunkards
« on: June 21, 2021, 11:39:59 AM »
We squabble about open streets and community centers.  However our weak leadership let’s a group of aggressive males hammer back  20 oz straw-beer-Rita’s a day long in front of the center of our community, the post office.  How does this happen? Are we allowed cops in JH anymore?  These Wasteoids are within the shadow of ps 69.  I’m fairly certain that is  very illegal. 

Just curious, has any local community council candidate made any mention about this? They certainly would get my vote. 

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Re: Post office drunkards
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2021, 05:09:09 PM »
There is a very severe problem with drunkards living in front of the old Burger King on 82nd Street, and smaller groups scattered around 82nd and 37th Avenues.  I cannot walk by the Burger King location anymore--it is rancid with urine and excrement.  The local city council person, Danny Dromm, has been MIA since the start of COVID, and was not much help before that in terms of cracking down on this disorderly conduct.  Unfortunately, focusing on quality of life concerns in the neighborhood is not a priority for any of the pols.

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Re: Post office drunkards
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2021, 05:40:07 PM »
There is a very severe problem with drunkards living in front of the old Burger King on 82nd Street, and smaller groups scattered around 82nd and 37th Avenues.  I cannot walk by the Burger King location anymore--it is rancid with urine and excrement.  The local city council person, Danny Dromm, has been MIA since the start of COVID, and was not much help before that in terms of cracking down on this disorderly conduct.  Unfortunately, focusing on quality of life concerns in the neighborhood is not a priority for any of the pols.

I will say that as of late one of the street vendors (god bless them) have chased off the homeless bums on 82nd street and have put clothing racks in the doorway of the BK. I probably would wash any of those tshirts with industrial grade bleach at this point lol.

I wonder if these guys migrated down to the post office?

Someone in office PLEASE do something. Danny Dromm is so checked out. He’s useless.

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Re: Post office drunkards
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2021, 09:10:30 AM »
Councilmember Francisco Moya covers 82nd Street, not Councilmember Dromm.  So if you have concerns about the conditions on 82nd Street - as it relates to the men hanging out and the proliferation of street vendors - then you MUST contact Councilmember Moya as follows:

fmoya@council.nyc.gov 
his staff person Phiviline Solano at psolano@council.nyc.gov

His district office: Tel: 718-651-1917

Please contact his office on a regular basis. As the old adage states: The squeaky wheel gets the grease!
That is not to say that expressing your concerns to Councilmember Dromm is not warranted, so do both!!

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Re: Post office drunkards
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2021, 05:45:22 PM »
 The scene both in front of the Post Office and on 82nd street are real deterrents to both areas. Am now avoiding them and not shopping as much on 37th Ave anymore. If I do, it's a beeline to the exact store and then back off to 35th Ave. Actually use 35th a lot now because of the e-bike situation on 34th which is an issue as well. These problems are huge and pervasive but speaking only for myself, there are some days where it's daunting to think of the solution in our current state. I personally think putting the Open Streets on 37th would be a much better idea but have said that before...

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Re: Post office drunkards
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2021, 08:03:32 PM »
Something needs to be done about this, and I don't just mean the drunks at the post office or on 82nd Street. There is also a group of men who drink outside of the grocery on 86th and 37th who like to harass women as they walk by, not to mention the skinny, moron of a drug dealer operating openly across the street (he's brought some real stand up citizens to the area). Our current elected officials (Dromm and Moya) are useless. The candidates for District 25 seem to think that the only thing that matters is OpEn StReEEEEEETS and the choices for District 21 consist of Moya (useless), someone who appears to be functionally illiterate, a domestic abuser/felon, and a social worker who seems to only want to give people good vibes. I'm not convinced that any of these candidates are going to do anything to combat these issues. The 115th clearly doesn't care, and hasn't for some time.

I've been calling 311, as well as Dromm and Moya's offices, about these things regularly (several times a week) for the better part of the last nine months with no positive results. My 311 complaints are closed within 10 minutes of me calling. Moya's office simply doesn't respond. At least Dromm's office sends a stock email.

The end result is that we have people changing their daily routines, avoiding certain stores, and feeling unnecessarily uncomfortable in their surroundings. This isn't right and it isn't good for our community.

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Re: Post office drunkards
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2021, 10:50:41 PM »
This situation is repeated all over NYC. From the UWS to Greenwich Village to Washington Heights.

I guess the predicament has led to the toughest of the Mayoral candidates appearing to be the frontrunner. By a lot.
 
New Yorkers seem to be demanding that these problems be dealt with.

Offline Octavio Hernandez

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Re: Post office drunkards
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2021, 07:08:54 PM »
This is what I walk past every morning on 82nd Street.  Not the most cheering sight :(.

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Re: Post office drunkards
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2021, 07:50:46 PM »
We squabble about open streets and community centers.  However our weak leadership let’s a group of aggressive males hammer back  20 oz straw-beer-Rita’s a day long in front of the center of our community, the post office.  How does this happen? Are we allowed cops in JH anymore?  These Wasteoids are within the shadow of ps 69.  I’m fairly certain that is  very illegal. 

Just curious, has any local community council candidate made any mention about this? They certainly would get my vote.

This is what happens when you defund the police.

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Re: Post office drunkards
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2021, 08:47:24 PM »
The people discussed in this thread are human beings with substance abuse and/or mental health issues. Instead of calling for policing and punishment, how about some compassion? If one feels strongly about not wanting to see people passed out drunk on the sidewalks in the neighborhood, consider joining or starting a group to give them the help and support they need to get them off the streets and simultaneously improve their well-being and the health of the neighborhood.

Offline 80JHer

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Re: Post office drunkards
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2021, 08:55:39 PM »
Twmeb, I prefer not to step over human shit  and piss while I walk my daughter to school in the morning.  Is that too much to ask?

I’m sure you have a foyer or perhaps even a back garden, if you feel they are in need, please don’t be a hypocrite and invite them over to your extra space. 


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Re: Post office drunkards
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2021, 09:13:38 PM »
Twmeb, I prefer not to step over human shit  and piss while I walk my daughter to school in the morning.  Is that too much to ask?

I’m sure you have a foyer or perhaps even a back garden, if you feel they are in need, please don’t be a hypocrite and invite them over to your extra space.

The JH populace in favor of stepping over human waste is non-existent. The question is how to solve the problem. I do not have extra space, or the resources required, to house and rehabilitate 10 to 20 people who are alcoholic. Perhaps we can work together to propose possible solutions, not just vilify the downtrodden.

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Re: Post office drunkards
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2021, 09:51:36 PM »
These dudes all have iPhones and an endless supply of tall boys from the bodega, they have some resources and cash

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Re: Post office drunkards
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2021, 06:00:46 PM »
The people discussed in this thread are human beings with substance abuse and/or mental health issues. Instead of calling for policing and punishment, how about some compassion? If one feels strongly about not wanting to see people passed out drunk on the sidewalks in the neighborhood, consider joining or starting a group to give them the help and support they need to get them off the streets and simultaneously improve their well-being and the health of the neighborhood.

I've seen people from organizations similar to the ones you are suggesting approaching these people. Made no difference. So yeah, I'm worried and I don't know what the solution is.

A few weeks ago someone clearly intoxicated pushed another one very violently in front of the subway stairs. The second person fell on the ground hard. He missed my 5 yo by 3 or 4 inches. This time. What about the next? This was at 5 pm. We were just trying to return home from afterschool.

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Re: Post office drunkards
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2021, 08:36:12 AM »
The hard truth about people who have alcohol and substance abuse problems is that they must make their own decisions to turn around their lives. The resources to do that are everywhere. AA and NA meetings are all over NYC.

Usually the person must hit their lowest point before turning their lives around.

It appears these folks have not reached their lowest point as yet..

I also have seen people try to help them.

I shudder to imagine what their lowest point might be since this is not it.

I can only guess the situation will lead to eventual mortalities.



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Re: Post office drunkards
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