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Offline dssjh

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Re: Alchemy, Texas BBQ new BBQ in Jax Heights
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2013, 09:13:37 AM »
re: the culture clash aspect.

i find it amusing that NYC 'cue aficionados who get a little -- or a lot -- miffed about not being able to get a 90 minute IPA or a nuanced Belgian at a place like this would not lodge the same complaint upon pulling into a roadside place in East Texas. In a non-dry county, i'd bet some might even toast the wonders of Lone Star (the Bud of that state). :)

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« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2013, 12:15:52 PM »
Glad you're amused, I'm from Georgia. And not the Russian one.

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« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2013, 01:35:23 PM »
sigh.

apologies for the blatantly politically incorrect observation.

i'm sure people walk into The Oink Joint (the best bbq i've had in your Georgia) asking for hefeweizen all the time. :)

Offline EricaS

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Re: Alchemy, Texas BBQ new BBQ in Jax Heights
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2013, 09:40:32 AM »
Finally went to try out Alchemy... It was phenomenal! Honestly, some of the best brisket I have had, and possibly the best in NYC. Also enjoyed the prime rib, pork ribs, sausage, and wings. Sides were decent as well. The cole slaw was really tangy and cut the richness of all the meat really well. The beans weren't your typical, sweet, baked beans, they were savory with no sauce to speak of, almost a bean mash. Very tasty. We were given some prime rib chili to bring home and try, so looking forward to a taste of that today.

Ron, the chef, is very enthusiastic about the food he is making here, and really eager to build a solid customer base. He is really embracing the neighborhood, and wants to try lots of new recipes that appeal to and reflect the diversity found in JH. He'll be experimenting more with sides as well. In general, it sounds like he'll be testing out more new recipes on the weeknights, so if you want to be the guinea pig (which, based on all the samples he had us try last night, is a good thing), that's when to go.

He also mentioned that their regular hours will be Tuesday-Thursday 6-10; Friday-Saturday 6-11; and Sunday 12-5; closed Mondays. For take-out, you can call in orders and pick them up for now; they hope to be delivering soon, as well as on Seamless and/or GrubHub.

This is such an awesome addition to the neighborhood, and I really couldn't be happier about it!

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Re: Alchemy, Texas BBQ new BBQ in Jax Heights
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2013, 06:16:38 PM »
I went to Alchemy yesterday.

The owner is a complete sweetheart, wants to be part of the neighborhood, and seems to be full of ideas and friendliness. I want to make it clear that the whole staff are real assets and were great people when I was talking to them.

But the food ... meh. Maybe part of my downer is that I can't have any of the sauces because of my damn celiac damn disease dammit, but I had the brisket and it was ... eh. Moist, but blandish. They didn't have any of the pulled-anything that I so loved at Ranger, just brisket and ribs. I had a sweet potato side, and it was whipped sweet potatoes. I went all neurotic about the gluten free, and they gave me Texas toast too. (That is not gluten free.) I don't hold the Texas toast against them because nobody should have to monitor this gluten free insanity, but the other food was just ... boring.

Everything was serviceable, but a bit expensive, and I probably won't repeat; that's a pity, because I love barbecue (or I guess I did, before my diagnosis.) Whatever.

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Re: Alchemy, Texas BBQ new BBQ in Jax Heights
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2013, 09:09:08 PM »
Had my first taste of the new bqq, half pound of brisket and pork and beans. I have to say, I probably wouldn't order the brisket again. It was too fatty and a bit chewy. The flavor was okay but had a lot of pepper. The pork and beans were very different with a lot of pepper, but I did like them. The lone sauce was a strange choice for your only sauce, again very peppery. For the price ($16), it was not worth it. For that kind of money you should at least get a couple of sides. They need to expand the menu with some cheaper sandwich options. As it is right now, everything is by the pound and a meal will run you $15. I do want to try their ribs before passing judgment.

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Re: Alchemy, Texas BBQ new BBQ in Jax Heights
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2013, 01:44:17 PM »
taste isn't a matter of right or wrong, so there's no sensible way to say 'no, really, that brisket was awesome' (which was my thought). you may have gotten a bad plate, and it sounds like you don't care for the recipes they use for their sides, which is fair enough.
but in terms of cost, i don't think you can find any legit, good quality bbq (not fast food places like the Dallas chain) for much less than what Alchemy charges. John Brown, their LIC location, is about the same, places like Hill Country and Mighty Quinn's a few bucks more on average.

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Re: Alchemy, Texas BBQ new BBQ in Jax Heights
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2013, 03:46:55 PM »
I'd agree with dssjh on the brisket, although everyone's taste is different, and I'm certain I prefer the fatty end of the brisket, which is what I got the other night. And I thought the cost was commensurate with the quality of food and service I got, but that is probably subjective as well.

As for expanding the menu to include sandwiches, just ask... There is free white bread with every order. Depending on how hungry you are, I'd say 1/4-1/3 lb. of any of the boneless meats would make a great sandwich, and I'm sure they'd even prepare it on the bread for you. And, if there is a protein that you want to see that they haven't had yet, again, just ask. The menu is a big experiment, but they want to please those who might be frequent customers too, so if you want pulled pork, it's worth a mention to the chef. If he hears it enough, I'd bet we'll start seeing it show up here and there.

Now, the facebook page says they'll have lamb belly tonight. I'm intrigued enough to go give it a shot... Will report back!

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Re: Alchemy, Texas BBQ new BBQ in Jax Heights
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2013, 04:44:20 PM »
I definately wasn't going to write them off after this one time.

And I did like the side of pork and beans. On it's own it was very good. Large chucks of pork, spicy pepper flavor and unique. It's just combined with the large amounts of pepper in the sauce and brisket rub, it was too much.

And the brisket wasn't marbled fatty, it was big chunks of fat. A few of the pieces I got were half meat, and then a large layer of fat on the outside. I got a corner piece that was all fat. It just looked like they didn't trim the fat cap before smoking.

I guess I should of said something, but I'm not like that. What I got wasn't worth the money.

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Re: Alchemy, Texas BBQ new BBQ in Jax Heights
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2013, 07:51:28 PM »
  First off, we're thrilled to have them so nearby. Then we ventured slowly into the waters with some chicken
and the beef ribs. Both tasty! But different from the BBQ that we know with more peppery smokey denser
flavors. The plan now is to work through the menu before settling on a regulars type of order. Sides are
delicious and would just like a few more.
  Overall v.positive experience and very! welcome in JH. We hope to make it worth their while.
 

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Re: Alchemy, Texas BBQ new BBQ in Jax Heights
« Reply #25 on: April 11, 2013, 01:55:49 PM »
I wonder when the best time in the day/ best day to go is?

I went opening day and it was awesome, but then i hear about it here, and it had a negative yelp review, and that dismays me.

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Re: Alchemy, Texas BBQ new BBQ in Jax Heights
« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2013, 03:20:15 PM »
We've gone 3 times now and it gets better every time - I think they are just getting used to the equipment and the setup of their new place.  I tried the beef rib, which was too chewy for me, and the sausage, which I was hoping to be like the kielbasa that I have had in Texas bbq places, but it wasn't.  The pork ribs were really good, juicy and tender, and the brisket is great, better than they do it at John Brown. 

Re sandwiches: they were making a brisket sandwich on a roll for someone last night when we were there - just ask them and I'm sure they will do what they can.

Offline dssjh

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Re: Alchemy, Texas BBQ new BBQ in Jax Heights
« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2013, 03:21:32 PM »
well, jeff, we all know that yelp can be kinda ridiculous sometimes. a dozen or so one-star reviews for 11 madison square park, including at least two saying it was the worst restaurant the reviewer had ever been to -- and a slew of horrible reviews for john brown, hill country and the other top bbq places in town.

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« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2013, 01:56:38 PM »
We've been twice now - once on a Friday, and once on a Wednesday for take-out. We've sampled everything but the chicken at this point, and haven't really had a bad bite of food. The beef ribs are tougher than one would expect of BBQ, but by no means inedible, and that is the nature of the beast, in my experience. The brisket was excellent (we got it both times), the pork ribs great, the sausage nice and moist, the prime rib and lamb belly both tender and delicious.

I think the negative reviews come down to a matter of taste, honestly. I prefer a dry-rubbed, smoky BBQ; I rarely use sauce; I like fatty cuts. If someone is used to a leaner cut drenched in sauce, they're probably going to take issue with the style of BBQ served here.

It's possible, too, that there have been cuts here and there that miss the mark (I haven't had any, but it's possible), but I'd be shocked if the chef didn't replace any piece of meat that was deemed unsatisfactory. He seems to take a lot of pride in what he does, and I imagine he'd be as disappointed as you to find he served a sub-par piece of meat.

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Re: Alchemy, Texas BBQ new BBQ in Jax Heights
« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2013, 10:32:21 PM »
Alchemy was chosen as one of the best new BBQ restaurants by TimeOut New York:

"The meat-peddling counter at the back of Legends Sports Bar—once home to Pearson’s and Ranger Texas Barbecue—changed hands yet again in April. Its newest iteration is a smoke lab helmed by Josh Bowen of John Brown Smokehouse. The Queens pit master nods to his Hill Country training with Lone Star State standards, reimagining the usual salt-and-pepper rub with fenugreek, guajillo and pasilla chilies. He pulls offbeat creations from a J&R smoker: beef ribs ($28/lb) mopped with foie gras vinegar; pork-and-beef sausage laced with fiery paprika ($9/lb). But you can also find traditional bites, like moist pork ribs ($12/lb). Cap-wearing teens and local businessmen tackle the mounds of meat at red-and-white-checked tables, moaning or cheering at games playing on hi-def TVs. Even if your team doesn’t win, Bowen’s jazzed-up Texan goods certainly score.71-04 35th Ave between 71st and 72nd Sts, Jackson Heights, Queens (718-803-8244, facebook.com/alchemytexasbbq‎)"—Patty Lee

http://www.timeout.com/newyork/food-drink/best-new-bbq-restaurants-nycs-top-smokehouses


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Re: Alchemy, Texas BBQ new BBQ in Jax Heights
« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2013, 10:32:21 PM »