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Re: Thai restaurants in JH and surrounding areas
« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2008, 11:14:58 PM »
Well the next Thai I tried wasn't Chao but Rice Ave.    So I guess Chao will be NEXT.  Unless I get distracted by yet another Thai place.
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Re: Thai restaurants in JH and surrounding areas
« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2008, 11:39:48 AM »
I went to Zabb yesterday for the first time and when I ordered I was told Americans didn't like the dish I had selected so I had to choose another.  I didn't press this, but it made me not so keen on the place.  Also, I got something with tofu and was given chicken.  Fine for me, as I eat both, but not everyone does.  So as much as I'd like to get close to eating in Thailand, I wasn't allowed.

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« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2008, 10:32:58 PM »
That's hysterical.  Imagine going to an Italian restaurant and being told something like that!    :2funny:

And then you get a wrong order.  Bad luck all around.  Next time go next door to UFC.


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« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2008, 10:35:27 PM »
That's hysterical.  Imagine going to an Italian restaurant and being told something like that!    :2funny:


Yeah my mom's a German immigrant--I thought of her telling people they can't drink beer because they are American.  ;D

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Re: Thai restaurants in JH and surrounding areas
« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2008, 11:37:54 PM »
One time in a Thai restaurant in Boston the waiter told us that we shouldn't order a certain dish because it was "too tasty."

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Re: Thai restaurants in JH and surrounding areas
« Reply #35 on: May 01, 2008, 10:00:48 AM »
Oh man. Of course I feel that everyone should be able to order what they want. On the other hand, I've witnessed several instances where the patron requested for a dish "extra spicy" or "Thai spicy" even against the waitstaff's warnings, only to send it back to the kitchen because it was too spicy.

I've also been in Ethiopian restaurants where I ordered the kitfo or gored gored (raw meat) only to be told that only Ethiopians would eat it...but I just tell them I've had it before and all's good.

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Re: Thai restaurants in JH and surrounding areas
« Reply #36 on: May 01, 2008, 10:04:55 AM »
I went to Zabb yesterday for the first time and when I ordered I was told Americans didn't like the dish I had selected so I had to choose another.

I'm curious - which dish did you order?

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Re: Thai restaurants in JH and surrounding areas
« Reply #37 on: May 01, 2008, 04:02:37 PM »
It was the yellow curry.  I usually press but I hadn't been there before so I just got green curry instead.  I love sour and spicy together but I think a lot of people don't.

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Re: Thai restaurants in JH and surrounding areas
« Reply #38 on: May 01, 2008, 06:36:45 PM »
This has happened to me at several Thai restaurants, including Sripraphai.  I've been told that I wouldn't like a particular dish, or that I can't order it "Thai hot".  I always persist and get my way.  I agree with yt28 that the problem is that these restaurants have been burned too many times with customers getting too adventurous with their dishes and then sending the food back to the kitchen.  This is the process that causes restaurants to homogenize their flavors to American tastes.  If a restaurant tries to dissuade you from a dish, don't be insulted.  Just make a choice: take their advice and stay away from it, or order it and don't complain if it isn't to your liking!

yt28 -- I'm a huge fan of Ethiopian food.  It was the main cuisine in my former neighborhoods in DC and Oakland, and I really miss having it frequently.  Too bad it isn't more available in NY.  I've been to a few places in Manhattan, but they didn't really measure up!  Any hidden favorites around here?

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Re: Thai restaurants in JH and surrounding areas
« Reply #39 on: May 01, 2008, 08:51:20 PM »
yt28 -- I'm a huge fan of Ethiopian food.  It was the main cuisine in my former neighborhoods in DC and Oakland, and I really miss having it frequently.  Too bad it isn't more available in NY.  I've been to a few places in Manhattan, but they didn't really measure up!  Any hidden favorites around here?

Haha don't know if it's off-topic (or should I create another thread? You decide)

I've lived in DC but that was before I went to Ethiopia - I went several times to Dukem and another restaurant starting with S two blocks away...but my Ethiopian sources tell me that Dukem is not very good and I should really try the one next to it. Sorry to be so vague - I haven't been to DC in a few years. They also told me that it is possible to get tere sega (pure raw meat, not marinated like kitfo or gored) in the back rooms - obviously this one will be kept secret because it breaks all health department regulations...and I'm not sure I want to eat the raw beef or goat grown in the States anyway.

Anyway the Ethiopian scene in NYC is pretty limited. I don't know about any hidden secrets! I think the consistently good one is Queen of Sheba. It's traditional, you can get tej with your semi-raw meat and macchiatos after the meal (very Ethiopian). My friends tell me that Awash in the UWS has Harar beer - sometimes QOS has it too (imported from Ethiopia - the Addis beer everywhere else is made in the States). Zoma's pretty good but upscale. I've been hearing good things (from chowhound - don't know if it's reliable) about the new Ghenet in Brooklyn - they seem to have some pretty unusual dishes like fish (assa), so one day I'll go try it out.

What are your faves?

And that's strange about the yellow curry - it's not that unusual. Sour and spicy literally describes almost all Thai food - tom yum soup is one that leaps straight to mind!

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Re: Thai restaurants in JH and surrounding areas
« Reply #40 on: May 01, 2008, 09:35:39 PM »
I haven't had it at Zabb, but the Thai Sour Curry I've had elsewhere is not like Tom Yum soup--it's definitely more of an acquired taste.

yt28 - It's been a few years, but I've been to Queen of Sheeba and Meskerem in Hell's Kitchen and Ghenet in Soho.  All were decent, none spectacular.  But I don't know what's authentic, since I've never had the opportunity to travel to Ethiopia.  I have yet to try Awash or Zoma.

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Re: Thai restaurants in JH and surrounding areas
« Reply #41 on: May 01, 2008, 09:54:46 PM »
Meskerem is really bad - both of them. I haven't been to Ghenet, but I am somewhat wary of its Soho location. Queen of Sheba consistently does well; it's average compared to the food in Ethiopia but is probably the best in NYC. My one quibble with QOS is that its injera is not sour enough. I'm wondering if they're mixing in some flour.

Hmm this really makes me want to return to DC and do an Ethiopian restaurant crawl...What are your faves in DC?

Another place you might want to check out is Marcus Samuelsson's Merkato 55. He's Ethiopian (but raised in Sweden). There are a number of Ethiopian dishes on the menu, notably doro wot; and I think he uses the berbere seasoning in many other dishes too.

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Re: Thai restaurants in JH and surrounding areas
« Reply #42 on: May 02, 2008, 01:49:54 AM »
The yellow curry on the Zabb menu is describes as sour and spicy, which DID make me think of Tom Yam, which is why I want to try it.  it's hard to acquire a taste if not allowed to order it.

I get why restaurant people do this about spiciness, but not about flavor.  It happened to me once in K-Town too where they would literally NOT let me order a dish.  4 workers there got involved and wouldn't let me order a soup there.  So weird.  I get that they don't want me to send it back, but just say, "okay, if you order this, no returns."

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Re: Thai restaurants in JH and surrounding areas
« Reply #43 on: May 04, 2008, 11:20:53 AM »
I've had the folks at Zabb warn me from dishes plenty of times - but never bat an eye when I insist that I know what I'm getting (even if I don't!) and order them anyway.  I'm thrilled that places like Zabb, Chao, and Sripriphai don't dumb down their flavors for non-Thais automatically.

The best things at Zabb are usually the "salads" (I use quotation marks because they're not what we think of as salads).  I've tried a few other things - noodles, entrees, curries, apps - and they've been fine, but not fantastic like all the salads are.

And, speaking of Ethiopian food, it's been almost a year since I've been there, but the best Ethiopian I've found in Manhattan is at Meskel in the E Village.  I'm getting ready for a trip to Ethiopia late summer, so yt28, I wonder if (not in this thread), you'd be willing to share any advice you have?

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Re: Thai restaurants in JH and surrounding areas
« Reply #44 on: June 01, 2008, 06:39:36 PM »
I just went to Nusara Thai (Elmhurst) this afternoon and it was a revelation!

I had the (really spicy) papaya salad and a bowl of tom yum noodle soup. I was expecting some generic tom yum soup base, some hastily thrown together noodles, and a piece of shrimp or something. What I got was so completely different it jolted me out of my seat for my camera and I took many photos, intending to send them to all my Thai friends in town. It was the real thing. Perfectly soft rice noodles, lots of ground pork, and even boiled liver! The fish cakes were freshly made and so were the fish balls, which were so delectable I was upset when I ate my last one...

Can't wait to go back and try out the other dishes!

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Re: Thai restaurants in JH and surrounding areas
« Reply #44 on: June 01, 2008, 06:39:36 PM »