Author Topic: Is 34th Ave Open Streets "Permanent" as Danny Dromm's newsletter says?  (Read 640 times)

Offline itsit

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 The public forum by the DOT conducted last month said that they were holding a number of these meetings to determine what the thoughts and issues were on both sides. Was that a SHAM? Over 500 people signed on to that meeting with translators and the many commentators were told it was to gather information over several publicized events. People who had issues with traffic on Junction Blvd. received more compassion than those on 78th street, for example. It felt like just the beginning of a dialogue on many aspects. They sent out another community survey request just yesterday -https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/34thAve


 Or is possible that Danny Dromm is speaking out of turn here? It's certainly odd that this would not have been publicized in a bigger way, if it were true. How could anyone believe they are truly interested in hearing both sides if a decision has, in fact, already been made? Maybe the "r" in the survey request is for redundant?

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Re: Is 34th Ave Open Streets "Permanent" as Danny Dromm's newsletter says?
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2021, 05:44:53 PM »
I understood that there is commitment to explore ways to make the arrangement permanent. That said, Danny's newsletter, like the latest DOT survey, emphasize that the details are being worked out, and that's where the community will have opportunity to offer feedback. Hence, the meeting in December, the survey, an upcoming meeting after the survey has closed, and other opportunities, mentioned in the DOT message. So, no, I don't agree it was a sham, and I do think these are valid opportunities to provide feedback.

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Re: Is 34th Ave Open Streets "Permanent" as Danny Dromm's newsletter says?
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2021, 06:32:09 PM »
I was just sent an invitation today to respond to a survey regarding the proposed open street and it certainly seems like the DOT is not interested in hearing from anyone who has serious opposition to the changeover. Much like the loading zones that have suddenly been forced upon certain blocks in our neighborhood, the DOT seems to be acting with the full backing of the Mayor's office, and without having an overall master plan for finding a way for passenger cars, delivery trucks, bikes and pedestrians to share the roads safely and efficiently.

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Re: Is 34th Ave Open Streets "Permanent" as Danny Dromm's newsletter says?
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2021, 07:10:17 PM »
The DOT posted this link to the survey on Twitter: https://surveymonkey.com/r/34thAve

This is the original Tweet:
https://twitter.com/NYC_DOT/status/1341130985530941442

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Re: Is 34th Ave Open Streets "Permanent" as Danny Dromm's newsletter says?
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2021, 07:52:47 PM »
Or is possible that Danny Dromm is speaking out of turn here? It's certainly odd that this would not have been publicized in a bigger way, if it were true. How could anyone believe they are truly interested in hearing both sides if a decision has, in fact, already been made? Maybe the "r" in the survey request is for redundant?

I was surprised as well when I saw something in Dromm's newsletter about the change being permanent.  Then I Googled "Permanent 34th Ave Dromm" and found this article from October, which I guess I and a lot of people missed, perhaps due to most of our news feed being about Covid and the election. I, too, don't understand the after-the-fact surveying and community outreach they're doing now, when clearly the decision was made months ago without community input.



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Re: Is 34th Ave Open Streets "Permanent" as Danny Dromm's newsletter says?
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2021, 09:14:54 PM »
I think it's been great for the neighborhood and thoroughly enjoy 34th being pedestrian. this sounds like great news

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Re: Is 34th Ave Open Streets "Permanent" as Danny Dromm's newsletter says?
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2021, 09:29:26 PM »
I think it's been great for the neighborhood and thoroughly enjoy 34th being pedestrian. this sounds like great news

As you know I totally agree. And so does everyone I ever speak to concerning keeping 34th Ave open. They love it.

In my experience, it's only here on this forum that I have ever heard any opposition.

Offline JHHD

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Re: Is 34th Ave Open Streets "Permanent" as Danny Dromm's newsletter says?
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2021, 09:30:43 PM »
Read the article. The headline is misleading.
It's not permanent, but the program has been extended indefinitely past the original Oct 31st end date.

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Re: Is 34th Ave Open Streets "Permanent" as Danny Dromm's newsletter says?
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2021, 11:19:23 AM »
 The dialogue was great, in my opinion, on the DOT zoom call last month. The first lay person speaking was very articulate about her support of the Open Streets conflicting with a real life need to be able to work online in her home while loud classes were happening on 34th ave outside her window. And there were others on both sides with legit issues which were not necessarily for or against the idea of Open Streets but questioning the strategy of the closures - if there is one - and how it changes after the pandemic.

 The concern here is not whether people are for or against or neutral but what is the status of the 34th Ave Open Streets situation right now. We have a local politician announcing to constituents in his newsletter the closure is permanent (and thanking Polly Trottenberg for her help) while at the same time, the DOT is saying they are still collecting information and the topic is still open for discussion, so NOT PERMANENT? These are contradictory points of view and someone is lying here and the question remains, who is not telling the truth, Danny Dromm or the DOT group?

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Re: Is 34th Ave Open Streets "Permanent" as Danny Dromm's newsletter says?
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2021, 11:19:23 AM »