Author Topic: Post Pandemic close of 37th Ave (not 34th) to SAVE our local businesses  (Read 1932 times)

Offline itsit

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  After these times are behind us and most people get vaccinated and many return to work, school, social visits, gyms, vacations and what we remember we liked to do, it may be time to shift the street closures to 37th Ave to support our local businesses. Many of them are in dire straits. A number have closed. Their livelihoods are gone or going. Making a few streets into plazas for the some hours of Open Streets would put the street traffic where it's needed. There are trash cans on the street. Restaurants have bathrooms. There is food to be served and shopping to be done. Early morning exercise programs. Run the avenue. Wheelchair and stroller hours. Teen jobs. Meetups for young people. Drinks! Social times! Helping others. Deliveries can shift to early morning or later in night as in many other areas of the city. We can save our community!!

 We still desperately need a community social center and every candidate vying for Danny Dromm's seat should have a plan for this as we are one of a very few communities without a full age/disability center in our neighborhood. So this would be a year round, weather resistant place to exercise, socialize, learn, share and generally be healthier in all kinds of weather, not just the warm, sunny days.

  We need to rethink the Open Streets program for all of Jackson Heights long term and post pandemic!

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Re: Post Pandemic close of 37th Ave (not 34th) to SAVE our local businesses
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2020, 02:13:43 PM »
It's a very interesting idea to consider. An added bonus would be improved safety for children and families during school start & end times. The traffic on 37th Ave. can get crazy and I have always been afraid a child will get hurt despite the best efforts of the crossing guards.

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Re: Post Pandemic close of 37th Ave (not 34th) to SAVE our local businesses
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2020, 09:48:23 AM »
Yes Lindsey! Children crossing at 37th ave and 77th street are in a danger zone - along with the rest of us. Please close this avenue, not 34th Ave for all the reasons first stated.

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Re: Post Pandemic close of 37th Ave (not 34th) to SAVE our local businesses
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2020, 06:21:34 PM »
I'd support this as an alternative, but I wonder how the local business people feel.

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Re: Post Pandemic close of 37th Ave (not 34th) to SAVE our local businesses
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2020, 04:55:07 PM »
Close 34th?  Now close 37th?  Why not just close em all?  Who needs "streets" after all???
Business seems to do just fine on 37th during normal times.  I think if you actually want business to thrive you'd concentrate on getting intrusive government overreach off their backs and out of all of our lives instead of trying to manifest a car-free-utopia NYC fantasy.

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Re: Post Pandemic close of 37th Ave (not 34th) to SAVE our local businesses
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2020, 09:12:26 AM »
 Chingwa, can you go back and read the original post again? The idea is not to close two avenues at all but to look at where the community as a whole benefits the most. At this time, when our businesses on 37th ave are in a desperate situation, it would be great to help them stabilize as they are in high need. Our neighborhood would be much poorer in every sense of the word if more of those establishments were to close at this time. Yes, many may have done well before - but this is now, pandemic times - and by closing 37th Ave and bringing street traffic there instead of 34th Ave, we can help them. Two avenues closed would snarl too much vehicular, pedestrian and cyclist traffic at this time. Maybe major plans in the future can address this.

  On 34th ave, there are no amenities like restrooms or trash cans or benches or food options. There is our 37th ave shopping district that does ALREADY HAVE these things and is in dire straights rights now.

Shouldn't we divert the street traffic to the place that needs it the most?

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Re: Post Pandemic close of 37th Ave (not 34th) to SAVE our local businesses
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2020, 08:14:15 AM »
Maybe close 37th once in a while but it would be a loss of a LOT of temporary parking spots of patrons of those businesses and overnight for everyone, AND, as a resident on 35th Avenue, when 37th is closed for parades and those tawdry street fairs, 35th becomes and would be a nightmare of frustrated honking drivers.
When drivers start using public transit again 37th will calm down.

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Re: Post Pandemic close of 37th Ave (not 34th) to SAVE our local businesses
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2020, 12:31:18 PM »
Agree, it seems that closed streets makes more sense on more commercial streets, especially when you can enjoy sitting out, seeing street performances, and patronizing businesses.  Vanderbilt Avenue in Brooklyn, also cited in NYT article, was a nice experience.  Traffic congestion is an issue, whether it is closure of 34th Avenue or 37th Avenue. 

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Re: Post Pandemic close of 37th Ave (not 34th) to SAVE our local businesses
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2021, 11:23:22 AM »
 Closing 37th Ave once in awhile would be good, yes, and maybe more? Use the method we have for the Greenmarket with closing parking there using signage indicating times. We now have two blocks closed in a busy part of Jackson Heights each Sunday. You can park there overnight but have to move your vehicle by a certain hour or get towed. I think this could work with some planning for those on 37th Ave. who have early leave times in the neighborhood. Just thinking this out more. Maybe start with weekend closures on 37th Ave making plaza spaces and activities, classes and meetups. Special dinners. Community seating for all. Bike rentals.
  Please shop 37th Ave businesses, if you can, especially in the cold dark months we have right now. Lets keep our business going through this pandemic. Thanks!

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Re: Post Pandemic close of 37th Ave (not 34th) to SAVE our local businesses
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2021, 10:32:50 AM »
I think this is a great idea.  We need to support our businesses and improve the quality of life in our community!

The true government oppression is city hall forcing us to use all that public space for surface parking and car traffic to serve a tiny minority of privileged, car driving elite. 

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Re: Post Pandemic close of 37th Ave (not 34th) to SAVE our local businesses
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2021, 02:26:25 PM »
Close 74th Street, always thought it should be that way

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Re: Post Pandemic close of 37th Ave (not 34th) to SAVE our local businesses
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2021, 02:26:25 PM »