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Offline abcdefghijk

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NYC's future...
« on: August 24, 2020, 10:47:17 AM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/24/nyregion/nyc-small-business.html?action=click&module=News&pgtype=Homepage

Possibly, since businesses in Jackson Heights don't rely on tourists and office workers, but rather residents (most of whom can't really afford to leave to their "country homes")...the enterprises in our NY neighborhood may be in a better position to survive this epidemic.

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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2020, 11:59:22 AM »
Yes we are really lucky that most stores and services are open here. Except Farine :P

In Manhattan a lot of stores are still closed or are sort of open but not really open, like they have lights on but no staff and a "Back in 5 minutes" sign up for hours.

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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2020, 12:39:55 PM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/24/nyregion/nyc-small-business.html?action=click&module=News&pgtype=Homepage

Possibly, since businesses in Jackson Heights don't rely on tourists and office workers, but rather residents (most of whom can't really afford to leave to their "country homes")...the enterprises in our NY neighborhood may be in a better position to survive this epidemic.

that's a good assessment.Jackson Heights is one of a small handful of genuinely middle class enclaves in NYC. wealthier neighborhoods are ghost towns, poorer neighborhoods are affected, as always, by the stresses of poverty, unemployment and lack of services. we are comparatively well positioned.

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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2020, 12:54:37 PM »
I also suspect that JH residents are shopping locally more than before the pandemic. I know I'm making more stops into local groceries and drug stores, etc. than I did before, due to simply not being in other neighborhoods and Manhattan as much.

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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2020, 04:11:39 PM »
But also...Jackson Heights is not an island.

We are part of NYC and intricately tied into NYC's fortune.

If NYC declines, then so do we.

To believe otherwise would be parochial thinking...






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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2020, 04:31:42 PM »
It's been interesting to see that most of our stores and restaurants are hanging in for now--not nearly as many empty storefronts as I see in Manhattan. I hope that can continue--and worry about what will happen to the restaurants in the winter. We are ordering from them a lot, and eating outside sometimes--I hope they can find a way to hang on when outdoor dining has to shut down for the winter. It would be so sad to see things start to fold at that point. Right now the streets are so lively with the outdoor tables and often music--a nice, hopeful contrast to the sadness I feel in Manhattan driving past places I've been patronizing for years that now have "For Rent" signs in the windows.

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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2020, 08:16:43 PM »
Manhattan has been hit really hard and many chain stores and restaurants are leaving NY.  5th avenue still has stores boarded up with plywood and many others have for rent signs.  I believe I read a few weeks ago that 83% of the restaurants in NYC have been unable to pay any or all of their rent.  Is it possible that the stores in JH are still open because they can't be evicted at this time?  Is it really possible that Victoria's Secret in Manhattan was paying $937,000 a month rent?


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/11/nyregion/nyc-economy-chain-stores.html




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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2020, 08:34:17 PM »
Even pre-COVID, some stores on 5th Ave may have been unprofitable or only just breaking even, and only there for advertising/branding purposes. Like Times Square billboards that you can walk into.

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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2020, 09:10:29 PM »
Even pre-COVID, some stores on 5th Ave may have been unprofitable or only just breaking even, and only there for advertising/branding purposes. Like Times Square billboards that you can walk into.

You are probably right.

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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2020, 09:56:19 PM »
I know that these places are not in Jackson Heights, but I am feeling the loss of three of my favorite stores.

1) Nordstrom Rack in the Skyview Mall (shortly before pandemic)
2) Artist and Craftsman in LIC on 34th Street
3) BEST Market... truly the best supermarket - in Astoria.

All three closed. A new store is replacing BEST...called LIDL.  Anyone ever hear of it?

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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2020, 10:03:18 PM »
I know that these places are not in Jackson Heights, but I am feeling the loss of three of my favorite stores.

1) Nordstrom Rack in the Skyview Mall (shortly before pandemic)
2) Artist and Craftsman in LIC on 34th Street
3) BEST Market... truly the best supermarket - in Astoria.

All three closed. A new store is replacing BEST...called LIDL.  Anyone ever hear of it?

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=lidl

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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2020, 11:16:34 PM »
I know that these places are not in Jackson Heights, but I am feeling the loss of three of my favorite stores.

1) Nordstrom Rack in the Skyview Mall (shortly before pandemic)
2) Artist and Craftsman in LIC on 34th Street
3) BEST Market... truly the best supermarket - in Astoria.

All three closed. A new store is replacing BEST...called LIDL.  Anyone ever hear of it?

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=lidl

Thanks, I think we all know about Google by now. The idea of this forum is to have conversations with neighbors.

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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2020, 11:24:35 PM »
I know that these places are not in Jackson Heights, but I am feeling the loss of three of my favorite stores.

1) Nordstrom Rack in the Skyview Mall (shortly before pandemic)
2) Artist and Craftsman in LIC on 34th Street
3) BEST Market... truly the best supermarket - in Astoria.

All three closed. A new store is replacing BEST...called LIDL.  Anyone ever hear of it?

I already miss Artist and Craftsman. I could be wrong but I think it’s the only branch in NYC that closed. I know the stores in Williamsburg and Bushwick are still open.

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« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2020, 06:17:29 AM »
A new store is replacing BEST...called LIDL.  Anyone ever hear of it?
Lidl has a similar vibe and business model to Aldi or Trader Joe's. I think the nearest one is in East Meadow if you want a preview. Low prices, few staff members, many products bearing their own label, limited number of non-food items. Packaged cheeses are very low price. Like the other two chains they've had some food items recalled recently.

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« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2020, 03:26:25 PM »

Lidl is a German-owned, Europe wide chain that I used when I was living in the UK. It has a very successful marketing strategy which amounts to "pile em high sell em cheap" as its UK rival Tesco used to say. Almost everything sold is its own brand and they had very good results with that. They often won blind tastings certainly on wine but also on cheese as well as other things. The store is no-frills, many of the goods are in boxes. They had suppliers from all over Europe so that they could have a Greek month or Spanish or Italian where they would offer goods from those countries on special offer. The last time I was in the UK I found their prices were unexpectedly lower than their American equivalents particularly for things like smoked salmon or specialty cheeses, booze almost an across the board better price. They have become a major player in the UK supermarket scene and really in Europe as well. If you go to a Lisbon Lidl or Prague or anywhere they have a reassuring sameness.

If they are opening in Astoria I would certainly give them a try. I suppose it goes without saying that I was firmly in the Lidl camp.The only caveat is how much they might have changed to adapt to the American market. If they continue the products they had sold in Europe at the same price here they will be one of the few success stories of our depressed and suffering city.

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« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2020, 03:26:25 PM »