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Offline JHResident

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Re: Street Closings
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2020, 03:37:24 AM »
If they close 34th Avenue any further, how will driver's access 78th Street?

Streets are public space, and belong equally to car drivers, people on bikes, and pedestrians. Cars should not have a monopoly on the roads.
Except cars will no longer have access to 78th Street. The street is one way southbound and the Travers Park extension already blocks access from Northern Boulevard.

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Re: Street Closings
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2020, 03:40:36 AM »
Many of the local civic group and electeds and candidates are behind the push to extend 34th Ave all the way up. Let's see if all of the communities are behind this especially ones closer to Flushing Meadows who may prefer the streets open as they use the fields and paths elsewhere to socially distance. I don't think any one group encompasses this whole avenue and the multiple voices should be heard. People are using it on 34th Avenue but mainly those coming from the high 70's and 80's down to the lower areas of Jackson Heights towards Woodside.

Unfortunately the socialists never sleep. The streets are being altered and reassigned according to a plan of which the general population has no say. 88th Street, a narrow one-way, now has a dedicated bike lane and is planned as a bus route. We have no idea what the plan is for parking or driving on that street.

And as frightening as it sounds, "Neighborhood Councils" will be out to keep an eye on us and a nose in our business.

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Re: Street Closings
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2020, 02:07:23 PM »
They are closing 34th Ave from 78th St to Junction Blvd beginning today. Looks like 77th and 78th Streets are not part of the closing. Either way, this will make it difficult for emergency vehicles to service 78th St between 34th and 35th Avenues. 8AM to 8PM.

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Re: Street Closings
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2020, 02:41:14 PM »
Great. This will be helpful for 100's of pedestrians who need space to walk/exercise.
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Re: Street Closings
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2020, 10:40:38 PM »
Streetfilms did a short 2 minute film about the street closures in 34th Ave. https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=SI7uinNg7jk

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Re: Street Closings
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2020, 10:41:20 PM »
34th ave is not closed, it is OPEN- for people, and it is wonderful.

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Re: Street Closings
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2020, 09:35:55 AM »
I love the closing of traffic on 34th Avenue from the BQE to 98th Street.  Great idea.  But I have a question for our political representatives:  What are the most congested sidewalks in JH?  Not a trick question.  Obviously, 37th Ave and 82nd Street (between 37th Ave & Roosevelt.)  Wouldn't it make sense to close 37th Avenue to car traffic to allow for more social distancing?  It would also allow the many restaurants and small shops to expand their businesses to outside areas.  Some of the restaurants, for instance, could set up tables and service outside to expand their business, especially when they are allowed to reopen and can only have 50% or less occupancy.  They could, conceivably, have full capacity with outdoor service.  And we all love outsice dining.  Small shops could also display items outside their shops on the sidewalk areas. 

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« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2020, 09:38:52 AM »
the problem with closing a totally commercial street lies in the fact that it's commercial. the restaurants could have plenty of outdoor seating, but they wouldn't be able to get deliveries to fill their kitchens. retail establishments also need vehicular traffic -- to have merchandise delivered and, in some cases, to get merchandise out the door with customers.

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« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2020, 10:51:42 AM »
I love the closing of traffic on 34th Avenue from the BQE to 98th Street.  Great idea.  But I have a question for our political representatives:  What are the most congested sidewalks in JH?  Not a trick question.  Obviously, 37th Ave and 82nd Street (between 37th Ave & Roosevelt.)  Wouldn't it make sense to close 37th Avenue to car traffic to allow for more social distancing?  It would also allow the many restaurants and small shops to expand their businesses to outside areas.  Some of the restaurants, for instance, could set up tables and service outside to expand their business, especially when they are allowed to reopen and can only have 50% or less occupancy.  They could, conceivably, have full capacity with outdoor service.  And we all love outsice dining.  Small shops could also display items outside their shops on the sidewalk areas.

Yes. This is brilliant idea. Certain early morning hours can be set aside for deliveries etc.

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« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2020, 09:25:50 AM »
The closing of 34th Ave for use by pedestrians is fantastic.

It has become a stunning promenade. And should stay that way.

And shows us how much better a city might be for us pedestrians...We are in the majority here in NYC, after all... outnumbering car owners...

And, point of fact, thankfully we do live in a democracy...where the majority is able to change the previous status quo.




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« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2020, 10:49:35 AM »
The closing of 34th Ave for use by pedestrians is fantastic.

It has become a stunning promenade. And should stay that way.

And shows us how much better a city might be for us pedestrians...We are in the majority here in NYC, after all... outnumbering car owners...

And, point of fact, thankfully we do live in a democracy...where the majority is able to change the previous status quo.

I agree...I absolutely LOVE it and think it is one of the best things to happen to the neighborhood. Would be a dream if it could be permanent. I also could very easily see 37th Avenue partially closed to create a nice promenade with outdoor seating for restaurants. We really need it...I am scared that many of our places will close if this keeps up.

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« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2020, 10:59:14 AM »
If 34th avenue was closed permanently to traffic I wonder how miserable the traffic would be on 35th and Northern especially during rush hour.  The article linked  below is about two years old but it is an interesting map of household car ownership in NYC.  I think if you owned property on 34th avenue it would  go up in value and if the traffic was really bad on 35th avenue the real estate values there would go down.  I can't even imagine the horn honking.


https://edc.nyc/article/new-yorkers-and-their-cars

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Re: Street Closings
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2020, 11:06:50 AM »
If 34th avenue was closed permanently to traffic I wonder how miserable the traffic would be on 35th and Northern especially during rush hour.  The article linked  below is about two years old but it is an interesting map of household car ownership in NYC.  I think if you owned property on 34th avenue it would  go up in value and if the traffic was really bad on 35th avenue the real estate values there would go down.  I can't even imagine the horn honking.


https://edc.nyc/article/new-yorkers-and-their-cars

Since, due to the Covid-19 crisis, all real estate values in NYC will have plummeted down the toilet...(After all, a NYC without theater and restaurants and crowded NYC cultural life isn't worth as much to live here. Might as well live in a cheaper, easier city that also doesn't have those special things.) 

So, real estate values are a moot point now...it's a perfect time to implement CHANGE FOR PEDESTRIANS. 

Might as well make it a New York to enjoy, lifestyle-wise, for those of us who remain after the exodus.
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Re: Street Closings
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2020, 02:04:48 PM »
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Certain early morning hours can be set aside for deliveries etc.

That will require the businesses receiving the deliveries to be open/staffed with employees to receive and shelve the deliveries, and will also require the vendors doing the deliveries to actually do the delivering in the early morning hours (increasing their labor costs as well).

I'd welcome that change to how business is done, but I drive along 37th Avenue enough to know that tons of deliveries happen during the day, and it's not as simple for businesses as just saying deliveries must arrive between 5 - 7 am.

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