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Offline Jhx

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Re: should I be wearing a mask?
« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2020, 12:04:42 AM »
4% of the infected die in New York City?

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Re: should I be wearing a mask?
« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2020, 05:24:52 AM »
I read some interesting statistics regarding Italy.  Of the 11,591 deaths, the average age was 79.5.  99.2% of Italy's corona virus fatalities were people who had previous medical conditions.  75% had high blood pressure - 35% had diabetes - 33% heart conditions.  Only 0.8% had no medical conditions.  48.5% of the deaths had 3 or more medical conditions.   There were 17 deaths under age 50. 

I've been following Staten Island statistics and all the deaths had previous medical conditions and mostly seniors. 

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Re: should I be wearing a mask?
« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2020, 07:21:55 AM »
4% of the infected die in New York City?
It's too soon to tell about NYC.  That was the initial report from China. However, South Korea had more success with their social distancing and had early widespread testing, resulting in a 1% death rate.  Italy was closer to 10% last I saw.  The US has higher levels of high blood pressure and diabetes than these countries.  If you read the article I posted in the other thread, the first Elmhurst Hospital patient to go into cardiac arrest due to COVID-19 was in his early 30s with no underlying health issues.

I found a link with statistics on cases reported and fatalities and critical care.  For closed cases they are reporting 251,000 cases with 47000 deaths worldwide, or about 19%.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR2UgycDn8i64zB71xUGm5svanZxQEI_U6IEEzgiNRtMnVLtBQtyKqPW_e8

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Re: should I be wearing a mask?
« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2020, 09:35:28 AM »
Those higher death statistics are probably because the spread of the virus is much, much more than reported/tested.

And so the % of deaths seems higher...because many folks aren't being tested and so can't be counted as Corona cases.


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Re: should I be wearing a mask?
« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2020, 02:22:52 PM »
This morning on the Brian Lehrer Show there was a segment on masks. Apparently LA is now requiring that the public wear masks outside of their homes.

Masks for All?: https://www.wnyc.org/story/masks-for-all

I agree with abcdefghijk that the number of cases is substantially under-reported due to the insufficient number of available tests. The sources I've been turning to for daily counts are:

Local:
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/new-york-coronavirus-cases-updates.html
Based on these numbers the mortality rate in NYC is around 2.5%, less when you factor in all of the people who are sick but have not been tested.

National:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

Global:
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/situation-reports/


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Re: should I be wearing a mask?
« Reply #35 on: April 02, 2020, 02:26:49 PM »
Good article in Rolling Stone about wearing masks
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/should-you-wear-a-mask-to-fight-coronavirus-a-top-doctor-weighs-in-angry-it-has-come-to-this-976620/
The gist is that it will prevent many of your droplets and aerosol spray from reaching others, but the evidence regarding protecting you from others is not clear. But read it for yourselves.

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Re: should I be wearing a mask?
« Reply #36 on: April 02, 2020, 06:19:10 PM »
It looks like we may soon be urged to wear masks:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/02/trump-mask-face-coverings-coronavirus-162138

Let's see how Trump navigates this one!

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« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2020, 06:34:39 PM »
One more article on masks and whether to wear them. An exhaustive article from the Atlantic:
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/coronavirus-pandemic-airborne-go-outside-masks/609235/

A lot of discussion about whether this virus is more airborne than previously thought. Toward the end the writer discusses using homemade masks. It seems the thicker the better, and must be combined with hand washing and social distancing to be effective.

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Re: should I be wearing a mask?
« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2020, 06:37:42 PM »
New Yorkers are now being asked to wear a mask or a scarf over the mouth and nose.

https://gothamist.com/news/mayor-de-blasio-says-all-new-yorkers-should-start-wearing-face-coverings-outside

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Re: should I be wearing a mask?
« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2020, 11:20:29 PM »
Thanks, Shelby. I've very reluctantly ordered some bandanas. At least I'll get to pretend I'm a bank robber!

I think de Blasio should have let Trump take the lead on this one. This is going to lead to chaos - more hoarding and fewer supplies for those that need masks the most - our medical professionals and first responders. Not everyone is crafty and many will pay any price for surgical masks if they now believe that COVID is blowing in the wind!

If you have excess personal protective equipment, such as face masks, please donate them to: https://ppetonyc.wixsite.com/nycppe/

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Re: should I be wearing a mask?
« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2020, 11:53:25 PM »
New Yorkers are now being asked to wear a mask or a scarf over the mouth and nose.

https://gothamist.com/news/mayor-de-blasio-says-all-new-yorkers-should-start-wearing-face-coverings-outside

This is about 2 months late, but better late than never I guess...

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Re: should I be wearing a mask?
« Reply #41 on: April 03, 2020, 04:28:56 PM »
I love the way people are discarding masks and gloves all over the side walks and streets Seriously?

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Re: should I be wearing a mask?
« Reply #42 on: April 03, 2020, 11:08:18 PM »
I don't know if anyone posted this, but here's an easy no-sew version of a homemade mask. Materials: shop towel (a heavy duty blue paper towel from hardware store or automotive shop), paper clip, staples and rubber bands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edQAHCRTIVQ

I actually found I had real cotton shop rags at home, so I modified the accordion fold shown in the video and crafted something. It's not attractive but it stays on and isn't uncomfortable.

shop rags: https://www.amazon.com/Detailers-Choice-3-542-Mechanics-Towels/dp/B000BO54WO?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_4

shop towels: https://www.amazon.com/Kimberly-Clark-Professional-Scott-Shop-Towel/dp/B00S0LBOQA

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Re: should I be wearing a mask?
« Reply #43 on: April 04, 2020, 02:47:14 PM »
Here's another simple method for making a face mask/covering from home. Materials needed: t-shirt, rubber bands

YouTube Video:

Surgeon General Shows How to Make Your Own Face Covering

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Re: should I be wearing a mask?
« Reply #44 on: April 04, 2020, 06:49:04 PM »
I'm in no position to tell someone whether or not they should be wearing a mask in public. Recommendations from WHO and the CDC may change, but it's very much a personal decision at this time. I have noticed an increase of people wearing masks in the neighborhood, I think easily more than 50%.

I choose not to wear a mask for the following reasons:

1 - I've been spending more than 95% of each day alone inside. I go out to exercise and for groceries. If I suspect I'm sick, I'll be spending 100% of my time indoors.


The problem is you can be carrying the virus and be totally asymptomatic and oblivious to it, or at the very least show no symptoms for days.. up to 14 days at a low percentage high side. Going out without one is simply disrespectful to others if you can help it. No amount of reasoning it away is going to change facts.

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Re: should I be wearing a mask?
« Reply #44 on: April 04, 2020, 06:49:04 PM »