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Offline JackM

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Re: 34th Avenue "Open Street"
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2020, 09:58:22 AM »
In most cities with pedestrian sections store deliveries are usually done at specified times (early morning, overnight etc)  Maybe even during specific daytime hours on weekdays or from side streets.  Many options.  Logistics could be worked out.  We need to begin to put people at the center of planning and not cars and traffic.  Cities are about people, neighborhoods, and moving large groups of people around efficiently.  Cars are best suited for suburbs where businesses are far from residential areas.  In cities residential and business districts overlap and are next to each other, often just blocks away.  What makes NYC great is it is a mosaic of self-sustaining neighborhoods each with its own character.  True, many work outside their neighborhoods and that is where mass transit becomes invaluable.  Having millions of people, moving around the city in cars often one or two people in a vehicle, just doesn't make much sense.  In many European cities residents may own cars but they are used primarily for travel outside the city, often for long trips.

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Re: 34th Avenue "Open Street"
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2020, 01:57:27 PM »
In most cities with pedestrian sections store deliveries are usually done at specified times (early morning, overnight etc)  Maybe even during specific daytime hours on weekdays or from side streets.  Many options.  Logistics could be worked out.  We need to begin to put people at the center of planning and not cars and traffic.  Cities are about people, neighborhoods, and moving large groups of people around efficiently.  Cars are best suited for suburbs where businesses are far from residential areas.  In cities residential and business districts overlap and are next to each other, often just blocks away.  What makes NYC great is it is a mosaic of self-sustaining neighborhoods each with its own character.  True, many work outside their neighborhoods and that is where mass transit becomes invaluable.  Having millions of people, moving around the city in cars often one or two people in a vehicle, just doesn't make much sense.  In many European cities residents may own cars but they are used primarily for travel outside the city, often for long trips.

I agree with you. We can make personal cars obsolete with a combination of better subways, better utilization of commuter rail and autonomous vehicles (that can be shared).

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Re: 34th Avenue "Open Street"
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2020, 10:36:26 AM »
During his daily morning COVID briefing, Mayor De Blasio just announced the closure of 34th Avenue for pedestrian use during the crisis.... 69th through 77th.

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Re: 34th Avenue "Open Street"
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2020, 12:41:34 PM »
 Many of the local civic group and electeds and candidates are behind the push to extend 34th Ave all the way up. Let's see if all of the communities are behind this especially ones closer to Flushing Meadows who may prefer the streets open as they use the fields and paths elsewhere to socially distance. I don't think any one group encompasses this whole avenue and the multiple voices should be heard. People are using it on 34th Avenue but mainly those coming from the high 70's and 80's down to the lower areas of Jackson Heights towards Woodside.

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Re: 34th Avenue "Open Street"
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2020, 01:10:47 PM »
If they close 34th Avenue any further, how will driver's access 78th Street?

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Re: 34th Avenue "Open Street"
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2020, 08:51:32 PM »
Many of the local civic group and electeds and candidates are behind the push to extend 34th Ave all the way up. Let's see if all of the communities are behind this especially ones closer to Flushing Meadows who may prefer the streets open as they use the fields and paths elsewhere to socially distance. I don't think any one group encompasses this whole avenue and the multiple voices should be heard. People are using it on 34th Avenue but mainly those coming from the high 70's and 80's down to the lower areas of Jackson Heights towards Woodside.

Unfortunately the socialists never sleep. The streets are being altered and reassigned according to a plan of which the general population has no say. 88th Street, a narrow one-way, now has a dedicated bike lane and is planned as a bus route. We have no idea what the plan is for parking or driving on that street.

And as frightening as it sounds, "Neighborhood Councils" will be out to keep an eye on us and a nose in our business.

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Re: 34th Avenue "Open Street"
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2020, 11:14:28 PM »
If they close 34th Avenue any further, how will driver's access 78th Street?

Streets are public space, and belong equally to car drivers, people on bikes, and pedestrians. Cars should not have a monopoly on the roads.

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Re: 34th Avenue "Open Street"
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2020, 03:37:24 AM »
If they close 34th Avenue any further, how will driver's access 78th Street?

Streets are public space, and belong equally to car drivers, people on bikes, and pedestrians. Cars should not have a monopoly on the roads.
Except cars will no longer have access to 78th Street. The street is one way southbound and the Travers Park extension already blocks access from Northern Boulevard.

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Re: 34th Avenue "Open Street"
« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2020, 03:40:36 AM »
Many of the local civic group and electeds and candidates are behind the push to extend 34th Ave all the way up. Let's see if all of the communities are behind this especially ones closer to Flushing Meadows who may prefer the streets open as they use the fields and paths elsewhere to socially distance. I don't think any one group encompasses this whole avenue and the multiple voices should be heard. People are using it on 34th Avenue but mainly those coming from the high 70's and 80's down to the lower areas of Jackson Heights towards Woodside.

Unfortunately the socialists never sleep. The streets are being altered and reassigned according to a plan of which the general population has no say. 88th Street, a narrow one-way, now has a dedicated bike lane and is planned as a bus route. We have no idea what the plan is for parking or driving on that street.

And as frightening as it sounds, "Neighborhood Councils" will be out to keep an eye on us and a nose in our business.

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Re: 34th Avenue "Open Street"
« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2020, 02:07:23 PM »
They are closing 34th Ave from 78th St to Junction Blvd beginning today. Looks like 77th and 78th Streets are not part of the closing. Either way, this will make it difficult for emergency vehicles to service 78th St between 34th and 35th Avenues. 8AM to 8PM.

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Re: 34th Avenue "Open Street"
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2020, 02:41:14 PM »
Great. This will be helpful for 100's of pedestrians who need space to walk/exercise.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2020, 02:52:42 PM by abcdefghijk »

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Re: 34th Avenue "Open Street"
« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2020, 10:40:38 PM »
Streetfilms did a short 2 minute film about the street closures in 34th Ave. https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=SI7uinNg7jk

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Re: 34th Avenue "Open Street"
« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2020, 10:41:20 PM »
34th ave is not closed, it is OPEN- for people, and it is wonderful.

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Re: 34th Avenue "Open Street"
« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2020, 09:35:55 AM »
I love the closing of traffic on 34th Avenue from the BQE to 98th Street.  Great idea.  But I have a question for our political representatives:  What are the most congested sidewalks in JH?  Not a trick question.  Obviously, 37th Ave and 82nd Street (between 37th Ave & Roosevelt.)  Wouldn't it make sense to close 37th Avenue to car traffic to allow for more social distancing?  It would also allow the many restaurants and small shops to expand their businesses to outside areas.  Some of the restaurants, for instance, could set up tables and service outside to expand their business, especially when they are allowed to reopen and can only have 50% or less occupancy.  They could, conceivably, have full capacity with outdoor service.  And we all love outsice dining.  Small shops could also display items outside their shops on the sidewalk areas. 

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Re: 34th Avenue "Open Street"
« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2020, 09:35:55 AM »