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Offline Shelby2

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The coronavirus thread
« on: March 09, 2020, 12:23:14 PM »
I started this thread so people could discuss how the coronavirus threat is impacting them, or just discuss fears/worries.

I am more afraid of getting it and passing it along to someone with a more vulnerable health condition. I am hopeful that if I were to get it, I would just be sick and recover after a few weeks without having to go to the hospital (fingers crossed).

I have to admit all the constant news about it is making me somewhat paranoid.

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Re: The coronavirus thread
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2020, 01:31:36 PM »
Will the corona virus die out as the weather warms?  I've read several articles that says its possible.  The articles that I read did mention that countries with very warm and humid climates don't have the problem. 

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Re: The coronavirus thread
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2020, 02:40:37 PM »
Apart from the PSAs put out by the CDC and other health organizations in efforts to contain the virus, I'm interested in knowing what, if any, additional steps folks may be taking to prepare in the event they do become ill. I went on my usual grocery run this past weekend and found myself purchasing a bottle of Tylenol for its fever reducing properties... just in case.  And while at the store, I figured I'd pick up some Purell, but that was sold out, of course. On that note, I just heard that NY will be producing its own hand sanitizer, so I guess that's something people will be looking into.

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Re: The coronavirus thread
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2020, 04:16:14 PM »
[Will the corona virus die out as the weather warms?  I've read several articles that says its possible.  The articles that I read did mention that countries with very warm and humid climates don't have the problem.]

That's not how it works.  Many poor countries simply have not tested, so no one knows the spread.  Having said that, there are cases in every continent, except Antartica, so summer is clearly not killing it.  New Zealand and Australia have cases, and it's summer there.


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Re: The coronavirus thread
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2020, 05:14:05 PM »
[Will the corona virus die out as the weather warms?  I've read several articles that says its possible.  The articles that I read did mention that countries with very warm and humid climates don't have the problem.]

That's not how it works.  Many poor countries simply have not tested, so no one knows the spread.  Having said that, there are cases in every continent, except Antartica, so summer is clearly not killing it.  New Zealand and Australia have cases, and it's summer there.

I have also read that when the temp gets over around 80 degrees and the humidity rises the virus dies.

In the warmer places, the virus has been caught by those traveling in affected cooler areas and returning.

For example, in Hawaii those with the corona virus caught it when traveling elsewhere and returning.  And only a tourist has had it in Puerto Rico...




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Re: The coronavirus thread
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2020, 07:31:36 PM »
 Lot's of colleges have closed for the week now and students appear concerned about that. They worry that this late into the semester, it will impact grades and opportunities for them among many other things but not so much about the health issues as they are often say in the news reports that healthy young people are not at significant risk. But they can spread to the rest of us which is a concern.

  We have friends in New Rochelle who are not happy at all and are in high risk with age and a family member in a local nursing home as well as college age kids. Scary for them and we all hope to see a healthier time soon.

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Re: The coronavirus thread
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2020, 07:59:01 PM »
I don't think there is any proof that healthy young people are not at risk. The first case in NJ was a 32-year-old physician who had attended a training session in a hotel in Manhattan. The doctor who first sounded the alarm in China was in his 30s--and he died. It's wishful thinking that this only seriously affects the elderly--though the fatality rate seems to increase with age, I don't see any evidence that young people have nothing to worry about. I've been reading Twitter feeds from Italy, and that situation is beyond alarming. The hospitals are overwhelmed with serious cases. The US is behind on the infection rate, but may well catch up rapidly. That's why colleges and companies here are starting to have everyone work or study from home. Which may be the best way to mitigate, as they say, the situation with rapid spread of the virus. Some people seem to be not paying much attention to what is really going on--in denial, most likely. The messages from Italy are urging us to start paying serious attention now--not when it reaches catastrophic proportions. And to not pursue life as usual. I've decided to work from home starting tomorrow (fortunately, I can) and basically stay home except for trips to buy food or pharmaceuticals, etc. No movies, theater, exercise classes, and probably no restaurants. It's just not worth it at this point. I can only hope I'm overreacting, but I think this makes sense, at least for awhile until we see what develops.

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Re: The coronavirus thread
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2020, 06:06:07 AM »
We actually know quite a bit about SARS. We have dealt with SARS coronaviruses before -- in 2003 SARS-CoV and MERS in 2012 prior to SARS-CoV-2 (the disease is COVID-19).

https://www.nature.com/articles/424121a

The above article from 2003 is general public information, but if you prefer a more scientific read, the works cited are research articles.

SARS(2002-2004) did in fact wane drastically as seasons changed. China is currently reporting fewer and fewer new infections.

Children especially babies are either not infected or experience little to no distress from COVID-19. I think the link to plumbing/aerosol-suspension of virus (see Nature article) should be further explored, as Italy has extensive use of bidet toilets and is infected widely, well beyond the aged. Babies and young children don't use the bidet toilet fixture. That's my take (I get a lot of flack on this forum for thinking outside the box). Beyond that, we know respiratory droplets is key to transmission of the pathogen, but COVID-19, the disease, was spread through travel: planes and ships took COVID around the world.

The BIG question is immunity going forward. Will COVID act like flu and mutate enough each season so as to reinfect people yearly.
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Re: The coronavirus thread
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2020, 11:43:28 AM »
Here's Time Magazine's take on this issue:

https://time.com/5790880/coronavirus-warm-weather-summer/

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Re: The coronavirus thread
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2020, 12:02:50 PM »
It will take over a year for a vaccine to be developed.

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Re: The coronavirus thread
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2020, 01:13:29 PM »
[Will the corona virus die out as the weather warms?  I've read several articles that says its possible.  The articles that I read did mention that countries with very warm and humid climates don't have the problem.]

That's not how it works.  Many poor countries simply have not tested, so no one knows the spread.  Having said that, there are cases in every continent, except Antartica, so summer is clearly not killing it.  New Zealand and Australia have cases, and it's summer there.

I have also read that when the temp gets over around 80 degrees and the humidity rises the virus dies.

In the warmer places, the virus has been caught by those traveling in affected cooler areas and returning.

For example, in Hawaii those with the corona virus caught it when traveling elsewhere and returning.  And only a tourist has had it in Puerto Rico...

Wherever you are reading this, I would consider not using that as a source of quality information in the future. There are plenty of warm weather places that have positive infections not due to travel. It is warm in Whuan province and that was a huge epicenter. Italy is getting ravaged and its not exactly cold there.
Hot weather does not kill viruses.

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Re: The coronavirus thread
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2020, 01:37:49 PM »
It likely has less to do with warmer weather (though that may help?) and more to do with improved Immune response in the general population, due to more sunlight and Vitamin D generation.  This is the same with the flu... the virus doesn't go away in the summer, but people are better equipped to fight it off.

Everyone should ensure they are getting adequate Vitamin D levels all year round, but especially during the fall/winter months.

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Re: The coronavirus thread
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2020, 03:44:33 PM »
Agreed on the Vitamin D! People love to think Vitamin C helps, but it's really Vitamin D. It's best to use the type that comes with Vitamin K2. And it has a long half-life, so there's usually no need to take it more than once or twice a week.

My sister is the #2 at a federal agency in DC, and she closed their NY office yesterday. She told me she thinks NYC's response is underwhelming and that city employees should be working from home by now. De Blasio is really downplaying the risk behind the scenes; we had a ridiculous meeting last night and it was full of BS platitudes about how the public is overreacting and this really isn't a big deal and how we should all be honored to serve the city and should not ask to work from home; "just be sure to wash your hands and you'll be fine".

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Re: The coronavirus thread
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2020, 04:19:30 PM »
Agreed on the Vitamin D! People love to think Vitamin C helps, but it's really Vitamin D. It's best to use the type that comes with Vitamin K2. And it has a long half-life, so there's usually no need to take it more than once or twice a week.

My sister is the #2 at a federal agency in DC, and she closed their NY office yesterday. She told me she thinks NYC's response is underwhelming and that city employees should be working from home by now. De Blasio is really downplaying the risk behind the scenes; we had a ridiculous meeting last night and it was full of BS platitudes about how the public is overreacting and this really isn't a big deal and how we should all be honored to serve the city and should not ask to work from home; "just be sure to wash your hands and you'll be fine".

I think he will realize how wrong he is to downplay it like that. I suspect the realization will come within a matter of days.

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Re: The coronavirus thread
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2020, 04:55:26 PM »
nah. he's making bank on the ups and downs of the stock market. that's all that matters.

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Re: The coronavirus thread
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