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Re: Where in JH should the city place the new protected bike lanes?
« Reply #60 on: August 09, 2019, 02:49:13 PM »
Yes, disagreeing is the correct response, not insulting people.

We have a deal!

No more insulting from me. No more cuss words from you.

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Re: Where in JH should the city place the new protected bike lanes?
« Reply #61 on: August 09, 2019, 02:55:48 PM »
There is a group of people on this forum who would fall into fits of convulsive glee if all the streets were designated car-free zones.  I'm just offering a little balance on the side of reality.

Protected lanes on 37th would be a big mistake, and based on the mayor's (et al) previous track record I have no faith in their ability to recognize this.

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Re: Where in JH should the city place the new protected bike lanes?
« Reply #62 on: August 09, 2019, 02:57:19 PM »

We have a deal!

No more insulting from me. No more cuss words from you.

That's a gosh durn deal!  ;)

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Re: Where in JH should the city place the new protected bike lanes?
« Reply #63 on: August 09, 2019, 06:14:38 PM »
We are indeed going to get them citywide. First it was the pedestrian plazas and now it the protected bike lanes. Next up also is the Citibikes that will eliminate much of the parking on 37th Ave.

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Re: Where in JH should the city place the new protected bike lanes?
« Reply #64 on: August 09, 2019, 06:53:17 PM »
Interestingly, the city pedestrian plazas, like Diversity Plaza, have turned out to be extremely popular and successful.

And the stats show that Citibike is hugely beneficial and highly utilized in NYC. (Most of my pals use it. Personally, I can't wait till it comes here.)

Observing. The city is doing something that's working for its inhabitants.






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Re: Where in JH should the city place the new protected bike lanes?
« Reply #65 on: August 12, 2019, 08:20:18 AM »
The city should just allow these electric mopeds instead. Why bother with citibikes when you could just create electric moped parking areas along 37th Ave.? This seems the way to go.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/09/nyregion/mopeds-nyc.html

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Re: Where in JH should the city place the new protected bike lanes?
« Reply #66 on: August 12, 2019, 09:03:54 AM »
The city should just allow these electric mopeds instead. Why bother with citibikes when you could just create electric moped parking areas along 37th Ave.? This seems the way to go.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/09/nyregion/mopeds-nyc.html

Yes, perhaps....not a bad idea.   :D Then New York can be like Rome and its vespas! 

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Re: Where in JH should the city place the new protected bike lanes?
« Reply #67 on: August 12, 2019, 09:36:18 AM »
"There is a group of people on this forum who would fall into fits of convulsive glee if all the streets were designated car-free zones"

Barcelona superblocks or forget about it!

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2019/4/9/18300797/barcelona-spain-superblocks-urban-plan

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Re: Where in JH should the city place the new protected bike lanes?
« Reply #68 on: August 12, 2019, 09:50:43 AM »
"There is a group of people on this forum who would fall into fits of convulsive glee if all the streets were designated car-free zones"

Barcelona superblocks or forget about it!

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2019/4/9/18300797/barcelona-spain-superblocks-urban-plan

Yes! The 1950's Robert Moses car-centric era is over.  Private car owners must now learn to share the roads. They have been kings of the road for decades...they had a good run... but that'll be over soon. It's only fair. As most New Yorkers don't own cars. And numbers equate to power. Simply the facts.

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Re: Where in JH should the city place the new protected bike lanes?
« Reply #69 on: August 12, 2019, 10:46:16 AM »
Why don't we restrict people from leaving their homes so they don't go any where. Maybe travel by bike on alternate odd and even days. Cars are essential to commerce, health care and "connecting to people". To restrict them is to restrict  people. Now that does not mean there can't be room for improvement.  I'm a believer in pedestrian zones, especially on 74 street.  How will the shoppers from Jersey and Conn. get here...by bike??? Really?


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Re: Where in JH should the city place the new protected bike lanes?
« Reply #70 on: August 12, 2019, 10:50:22 AM »
Why don't we restrict people from leaving their homes so they don't go any where. Maybe travel by bike on alternate odd and even days. Cars are essential to commerce, health care and "connecting to people". To restrict them is to restrict  people. Now that does not mean there can't be room for improvement.  I'm a believer in pedestrian zones, especially on 74 street.  How will the shoppers from Jersey and Conn. get here...by bike??? Really?

The operative word in my post is SHARE the road.

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Re: Where in JH should the city place the new protected bike lanes?
« Reply #71 on: August 12, 2019, 05:17:05 PM »
Serious bike riders do not use the current bike Lanes. Most of the bike commuters I observe in the morning use Northern Blvd, presumably because they can go faster. Many of the bicycle deaths have involved riders ignoring traffic signals (I've read as many as 1/3) and no one is discussing the pedestrians being struck by bicycles. Protected bike lanes may also be responsible for the increase in deaths due to the increase in ridership.

Where are the public hearings on all of these changes?

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Re: Where in JH should the city place the new protected bike lanes?
« Reply #72 on: August 13, 2019, 09:19:15 AM »
Congestion is caused by too many cars and not enough parking spaces. We can’t expect everyone to use an electric scooter or bike but we can make it possible to use these modes of transportation in a safe zone. One thing that most people in JH don’t realize is that many streets with commercial businesses around them don’t have paid parking. 37th Ave from 69th street to 72nd, 73rd from 37th Ave to Broadway is only half metered, 72nd from Broadway to 37th Ave., 72nd from Broadway to Roosevelt, Broadway from 72nd to the BQE.

This is not an complete list but shows how we have a mindset that our streets should be used just to park cars for free all day. This adds to congestion as cars circle the block hunting for the few spots that are paid spots.

Taking parking away and adding protected bike lanes will increase demand for parking spots. This should be combined with making more streets metered. The streets of JH are a valuable commodity and should be treated as such.

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Re: Where in JH should the city place the new protected bike lanes?
« Reply #73 on: August 13, 2019, 07:42:42 PM »
It's a catch 22.  If you increase the available parking spaces you will increase the number of people willing to drive to the neighborhood and contributing to the congestion.

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Re: Where in JH should the city place the new protected bike lanes?
« Reply #74 on: August 14, 2019, 07:55:06 AM »
Just to keep the number of parking spots available to residents and non residents you would have to increase the number of metered spots. You can’t increase the number of street parking spots.

BTW Ittadi rented the old Astoria Federal parking lot. This means more parking for shoppers of the Bangladesh grocery and catering hall and none for customers of the bank. Half of the bank is being converted into another grocery store. Demand seems to be exploding for parking.

Adding the protected bike lanes on Broadway would increase demand for parking.
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Re: Where in JH should the city place the new protected bike lanes?
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