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Offline Chingwa

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Re: Undocumented immigrants granted drivers licenses
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2019, 04:30:33 PM »
So no real response then, got it!   ::)

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Re: Undocumented immigrants granted drivers licenses
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2019, 02:45:49 PM »
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they should have an international license.

how does an undocumented immigrant brought here as a child get an International Driver's Permit since they aren't physically in the country where they have citizenship in order to get a valid driver's license?

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Re: Undocumented immigrants granted drivers licenses
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2019, 12:42:34 PM »
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how does an undocumented immigrant brought here as a child get an International Driver's Permit
I put a number of options in my post which you can read well enough, cherry-picking little bits and then re-framing them is just silly.  That's why I said in my post that I was in favor of some form of amnesty (for some, based on circumstance), because this is a nuanced issue.  But it is not right to just give anyone who might jump the border a driver's license.

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Re: Undocumented immigrants granted drivers licenses
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2019, 01:30:48 PM »
Illegals probably will be registered to vote anyway.

https://nypost.com/2019/06/20/single-typo-in-state-bill-would-have-automatically-registered-non-citizens-to-vote/?utm_campaign=iosapp&utm_source=pasteboard_app

I hope you're happy with yourself, since you made a real effort to refer to undocumented immigrants as "illegals" multiple times on this thread alone. If they're "illegal" for coming to this country undocumented (many seeking asylum from situations that your stupid, ignorant self could never survive), then by that logic, anyone breaking a law in this country should be called an "illegal." Have you ever littered? Ran a red light? Pocketed untaxed income off the books? I'm sure you have. In that case, you're an illegal. God, I never realized there were so many stupid people in this neighborhood that I thought was inclusive and diverse. You trolls probably don't even live here anymore.

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Re: Undocumented immigrants granted drivers licenses
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2019, 01:49:03 PM »
There's a lot of angry people out there that can't control themselves enough to refrain from degrading and hurling insults at people.  And yes they are in this country illegally in defiance of actual immigration laws.  They have immigrated illegally and therefore it is not unreasonable to call them illegal immigrants.

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Re: Undocumented immigrants granted drivers licenses
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2019, 06:36:43 PM »
Illegals probably will be registered to vote anyway.

https://nypost.com/2019/06/20/single-typo-in-state-bill-would-have-automatically-registered-non-citizens-to-vote/?utm_campaign=iosapp&utm_source=pasteboard_app

I hope you're happy with yourself, since you made a real effort to refer to undocumented immigrants as "illegals" multiple times on this thread alone. If they're "illegal" for coming to this country undocumented (many seeking asylum from situations that your stupid, ignorant self could never survive), then by that logic, anyone breaking a law in this country should be called an "illegal." Have you ever littered? Ran a red light? Pocketed untaxed income off the books? I'm sure you have. In that case, you're an illegal. God, I never realized there were so many stupid people in this neighborhood that I thought was inclusive and diverse. You trolls probably don't even live here anymore.

That’s because they are indeed illegals.

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Re: Undocumented immigrants granted drivers licenses
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2019, 08:39:58 PM »
thanks for moving out of the neighborhood, sl. seriously.

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Re: Undocumented immigrants granted drivers licenses
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2019, 10:06:08 PM »
The undocumented (illegals) would need to become legalized by the passage of laws that  allow those unlawfully present in the United States without criminal records to adjust their status. Why are they undocumented?, because they crossed the border illegally or overstayed their visa. This is a far cry from throwing a piece of paper on the ground. 

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Re: Undocumented immigrants granted drivers licenses
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2019, 02:29:17 AM »
The undocumented (illegals) would need to become legalized by the passage of laws that  allow those unlawfully present in the United States without criminal records to adjust their status. Why are they undocumented?, because they crossed the border illegally or overstayed their visa. This is a far cry from throwing a piece of paper on the ground.

Why is it a far cry from committing a crime like running a red light? If you run a red light or a stop sign, which most people probably have, you could hit someone who's crossing the intersection. I see you went well out of your way to include the parenthetical notation "illegals" in your comment. You should know that the process for most undocumented people to become residents is now nearly impossible thanks to the ridiculous immigration laws being put in place by the racist president who also loves the term "illegals." Go drive into the ocean.

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Re: Undocumented immigrants granted drivers licenses
« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2019, 02:31:19 AM »
There's a lot of angry people out there that can't control themselves enough to refrain from degrading and hurling insults at people.  And yes they are in this country illegally in defiance of actual immigration laws.  They have immigrated illegally and therefore it is not unreasonable to call them illegal immigrants.

If you're not okay with immigrants who have moved to this country in search of a better life for themselves and their families (as your ancestors surely did unless you're Native, which I doubt you are since you're so obtuse), then leave Jackson Heights. Or let me guess, you've already left and moved to Florida or something 20 years ago but love to troll this page for kicks. Enjoy your miserable existence.

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Re: Undocumented immigrants granted drivers licenses
« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2019, 12:12:44 PM »
Well I live in Jackson Heights and I think Illegal Aliens should be called just that.  I think language should be accurate and not a mealy mouth mixture of terms to suit fragile sentimentality.  I don't tell people to drive into the ocean just because I might disagree with them.  People need to take their rhetoric down a notch.

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Re: Undocumented immigrants granted drivers licenses
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2019, 12:43:58 PM »
Well I live in Jackson Heights and I think Illegal Aliens should be called just that.  I think language should be accurate and not a mealy mouth mixture of terms to suit fragile sentimentality.  I don't tell people to drive into the ocean just because I might disagree with them.  People need to take their rhetoric down a notch.

Terminology.

Actually, I think the real legal term is "foreign alien" when someone is in the country who is not a citizen.

Anyway, that's the term used at customs at the airport when tourists and other folks enter the USA and are citizens of other countries and not citizens of the USA.

It's an even tougher term than "illegal immigrant" . But "foreign alien" is what tourists etc are called who are in the country.

I believe people with Green Cards are "Resident Aliens" legally.

I believe that staying in any country, for non citizens is a privilege granted by that country. But it's not a "right" for non citizens in any country in the entire world.
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Re: Undocumented immigrants granted drivers licenses
« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2019, 04:15:00 PM »
There's a lot of angry people out there that can't control themselves enough to refrain from degrading and hurling insults at people.  And yes they are in this country illegally in defiance of actual immigration laws.  They have immigrated illegally and therefore it is not unreasonable to call them illegal immigrants.

If you're not okay with immigrants who have moved to this country in search of a better life for themselves and their families (as your ancestors surely did unless you're Native, which I doubt you are since you're so obtuse), then leave Jackson Heights. Or let me guess, you've already left and moved to Florida or something 20 years ago but love to troll this page for kicks. Enjoy your miserable existence.

We can’t just let anyone come and stay in this country, what’s wrong with you?

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Re: Undocumented immigrants granted drivers licenses
« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2019, 05:15:53 PM »
The undocumented (illegals) would need to become legalized by the passage of laws that  allow those unlawfully present in the United States without criminal records to adjust their status. Why are they undocumented?, because they crossed the border illegally or overstayed their visa. This is a far cry from throwing a piece of paper on the ground.

Why is it a far cry from committing a crime like running a red light? If you run a red light or a stop sign, which most people probably have, you could hit someone who's crossing the intersection. I see you went well out of your way to include the parenthetical notation "illegals" in your comment. You should know that the process for most undocumented people to become residents is now nearly impossible thanks to the ridiculous immigration laws being put in place by the racist president who also loves the term "illegals." Go drive into the ocean.


You break a law and get caught, you pay the penalty.  Pass a red light, you get a ticket.  Litter, you get a ticket.  Hit someone in an intersection and it's due to negligence get ready to pay out lawsuits and potentially lose your license and/or go to jail.  In the country illegally, you get deported.  It's that simple. 

Illegal aliens can  become residents as easily as anyone else wishing to immigrate to the United States.  They need to go back to their own countries, start the application process, provide the required information and complete the requirements to get a visa.  That includes inoculations and medical screening that are intended to protect current residents.   Jumping the line ahead of those who are trying to come here legitimately should never be rewarded.


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Re: Undocumented immigrants granted drivers licenses
« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2019, 06:46:46 PM »
There's a lot of angry people out there that can't control themselves enough to refrain from degrading and hurling insults at people.  And yes they are in this country illegally in defiance of actual immigration laws.  They have immigrated illegally and therefore it is not unreasonable to call them illegal immigrants.

If you're not okay with immigrants who have moved to this country in search of a better life for themselves and their families (as your ancestors surely did unless you're Native, which I doubt you are since you're so obtuse), then leave Jackson Heights. Or let me guess, you've already left and moved to Florida or something 20 years ago but love to troll this page for kicks. Enjoy your miserable existence.

Why does he have to leave Jackson Heights just because he does not agree with you? Why don’t you leave?

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Re: Undocumented immigrants granted drivers licenses
« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2019, 06:46:46 PM »