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Offline dssjh

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Re: Man shot and killed at 90th St/Elmhurst Ave station
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2019, 04:22:04 PM »
one doesn't negate the other. felonies merit high bail, non violent misdemeanors merit $1 bail.

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Re: Man shot and killed at 90th St/Elmhurst Ave station
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2019, 05:10:06 PM »
wrong. as a nation and state, we are seriously under-taxed. myopics think otherwise, but it's true.

Anyone who feels they are undertaxed can voluntarily contribute what they think their fair share is.  I'm sure NY State and City wouldn't turn down your money, either. 

https://fiscal.treasury.gov/public/gifts-to-government.html

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Re: Man shot and killed at 90th St/Elmhurst Ave station
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2019, 05:11:30 PM »
We need the money for the homeless shelters. The city has diverted billions to the pockets of hotel owners. Then there is the fact high earning individuals are leaving the state in droves. 

https://nypost.com/2019/02/04/cuomo-announces-income-tax-revenues-have-dropped-by-2-3b/

The rich are leaving but they are buying apartments for 238 million?  Maybe he did not read the article.

According to the article tax revenues dropped in a month? People do not pay taxes by the month. Maybe we could hold a telethon for the rich. Jeff Bezos could emcee.

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Re: Man shot and killed at 90th St/Elmhurst Ave station
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2019, 05:31:29 PM »
Remember the rich can have an apartment or house in NY and buy one in Florida. They stay in Florida 183 days a year and therefore are considered Florida residents. The ultra wealthy do not have to punch a clock every day.

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Re: Man shot and killed at 90th St/Elmhurst Ave station
« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2019, 09:29:16 AM »
Gang buses?  WTF?

I understand why this this seems ridiculous but, it's had an effect in the Bronx in the past when that neighborhood was totally over run with gangs. This article from 1972 is about a similar concept, where there was a space and impartial party delegated to negotiate. This is some what of the origins of breakdancing. But, I don't expect that to happen again.

http://nymag.com/news/features/crime/48271/

I lived in a major gang turf cross section in LA and one of those gangs was involved in this shooting (18th st). Three of the cities largest gangs intersected at my cross streets. There was a lot of "activity".  It seems that culture has spread to our city.

That particular LAPD precinct at the time was one of the most militarized but, also notoriously corrupt. So, there you have a combination of resources and corruption. I respect most police officers but, the job is also not attracting the very best people. It's the same with the MTA and NYCHA workers.

Tax dollars need to be audited and that can be an issue with a bureaucracy. Of course "LESS" government would only make the issue worse. DeBlasio has spent a lot on beefing up the police. There is no simple solution. Some citizens take to added resources and opportunities and others squander them and continue to commit crimes. It's not a black and white issue. Crime in this city has also fallen to record lows.

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Re: Man shot and killed at 90th St/Elmhurst Ave station
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2019, 11:34:50 AM »
There's a lot of police presence in that area. Until recently, we had a bucket satellite parked on 89th and 37th for YEARS. Undercover cops are everywhere. But they can't break the allure of gangster life. It's part of pop culture: in movies, the music, gangland and gun culture is celebrated. How to reach young people (the victim was only 20!) who start on this path so young, so innocently, merely seeking fun, excitement, belonging, recognition?
« Last Edit: February 06, 2019, 11:43:07 AM by jeanette »

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Re: Man shot and killed at 90th St/Elmhurst Ave station
« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2019, 03:12:36 PM »

Offline dssjh

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Re: Man shot and killed at 90th St/Elmhurst Ave station
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2019, 03:30:04 PM »
they always did this for Gambinos and Colombos, nothing new.

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Re: Man shot and killed at 90th St/Elmhurst Ave station
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2019, 03:44:05 PM »
they always did this for Gambinos and Colombos, nothing new.

Is there any bad behavior, you don't feel compelled to use other bad behavior to justify?




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Re: Man shot and killed at 90th St/Elmhurst Ave station
« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2019, 03:46:29 PM »

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Re: Man shot and killed at 90th St/Elmhurst Ave station
« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2019, 03:47:52 PM »
Why not? 
we are a community of over 100K tax paying citizens.  where does it all go?  that many people should have a police dept that keeps our streets safe (from crazy drivers and thugs).  its not a lot to ask.  we have zero presence.  all we have our meter maids. have you ever seen a car pulled over in JH for reckless driving? have you ever seen a cop actually walking down Roosevelt? 

get it done 115th!

if its a funding issue (which it should not be),  then the local politicians  completely failed us.  while they were busy organizing parades they allowed our tax $ to be spent in another neighborhood.  we need politicians that will advocate for our taxes to be used in our neighborhood.  funding should never be an issue for the police force


Some might offer, had the politicians not made it so hard to deport someone here illegally, with many felonies that this would never have happened. So while you can blame the NYPD if you like, others can blame Dromm, Gilebrand, AoC, Ramos, Corey Johnson and his ilk for the Low Bail and lack of deportation following many previous arrests.





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Re: Man shot and killed at 90th St/Elmhurst Ave station
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2019, 03:49:13 PM »
they always did this for Gambinos and Colombos, nothing new.

Is there any bad behavior, you don't feel compelled to use other bad behavior to justify?

Something you don't like about whataboutism, Paul?

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Re: Man shot and killed at 90th St/Elmhurst Ave station
« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2019, 04:53:13 PM »
I'm posting a Fox article which contains the photos of two persons of interest, which I hadn't seen before. They are not great pics, but better than nothing.

I notice, though, that their clothes don't match up well to the clothes in the video. Can't explain that.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/alleged-nyc-subway-shooter-suspected-ms-13-member-was-in-us-illegally-ice-says
« Last Edit: February 06, 2019, 05:07:57 PM by jeanette »

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Re: Man shot and killed at 90th St/Elmhurst Ave station
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2019, 10:23:19 PM »
The clothes match, you can see those two right at the beginning of the clip.

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Re: Man shot and killed at 90th St/Elmhurst Ave station
« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2019, 09:09:01 AM »
they always did this for Gambinos and Colombos, nothing new.

Is there any bad behavior, you don't feel compelled to use other bad behavior to justify?

Interesting logic.  Two wrongs = a right.

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Re: Man shot and killed at 90th St/Elmhurst Ave station
« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2019, 09:09:01 AM »