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Re: The coronavirus thread
« Reply #150 on: May 04, 2020, 10:40:18 AM »
^^you really think it likely the approach that's being taken to find a vaccine is one at a time rather than multiple efforts simultaneously?

Individual drug laboratories are working separately to create this vaccine. (Or trying to work on a drug therapy) Many, many over the world. Most will fail. The rewards of being the one to make this vaccine (or drug therapy) are astronomical. Medical labs are a business like anything else.


Which vaccine was tested "in april"?

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Re: The coronavirus thread
« Reply #151 on: May 04, 2020, 12:26:30 PM »
Against my better judgement I will reply to L. And disregard all past experience with L.

My pal works in a pharmaceutical lab. The results were looking promising. They were developing a Corona-type (Sars or something) vaccine even before the pandemic. (That's what he told me). And then the results weren't promising. The vaccine FAILED its test. Most of the vaccines being developed by the many, many drug labs will FAIL. THEY SIMPLY WON'T WORK.

Hopefully, one (or more) vaccines from the many, many other pharmaceutical labs will succeed... Each lab approaches the problem via their own different pathway. The labs definitely DON'T share info. Their specific approach is their intellectual property and patent that lasts for  20 years...during which time they recoup $$$$'s.  (x 1 billion in this Corona case)

 
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Re: The coronavirus thread
« Reply #152 on: May 04, 2020, 01:28:33 PM »
Against my better judgement I will reply to L. And disregard all past experience with L.

My pal works in a pharmaceutical lab. The results were looking promising. They were developing a Corona-type (Sars or something) vaccine even before the pandemic. (That's what he told me).

I'm fully aware of the (completely justifiable)  failure rates of vaccine and drug discovery and testing and clinical trial programs. Discovering drugs and developing vaccines are amongst the harder things we do as a species.
 
So let's get this straight. Your friend who works in a "pharmaceutical lab" was developing a "corona-type" vaccine before the coronavirus was widely known and expected to "test" it by the end of april so we'd know what was up but "it failed".
 
Knowledge of "success" for a vaccine for SARS-CoV-2  - the coronavirus that causes COVID19 - would have been impossible that point. . It is impossible to develop a viral vaccine (modified mRNA, vector delivered DNA, inactive virus, or adjuvant-boosted protein) without access to the pathogen and/or the DNA/RNA sequence, and then the hard work begins. Development of vaccines normally takes 5-10 years and even with the telescoping underway and tens of billions that are thrown at it as we speak, we're looking at late this year, early next at best.... (and this is VERY optimistic).

An "answer" by the end of april would have been meaningless, if the question had been asked at all.

tl;dr. Most charitable reading: I think you misunderstood what your friend said.  But that's cool.


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Re: The coronavirus thread
« Reply #153 on: May 04, 2020, 01:40:33 PM »
Against my better judgement I will reply to L. And disregard all past experience with L.

My pal works in a pharmaceutical lab. The results were looking promising. They were developing a Corona-type (Sars or something) vaccine even before the pandemic. (That's what he told me).

I'm fully aware of the (completely justifiable)  failure rates of vaccine and drug discovery and testing and clinical trial programs. Discovering drugs and developing vaccines are amongst the harder things we do as a species.
 
So let's get this straight. Your friend who works in a "pharmaceutical lab" was developing a "corona-type" vaccine before the coronavirus was widely known and expected to "test" it by the end of april so we'd know what was up but "it failed".
 
Knowledge of "success" for a vaccine for SARS-CoV-2  - the coronavirus that causes COVID19 - would have been impossible that point. . It is impossible to develop a viral vaccine (modified mRNA, vector delivered DNA, inactive virus, or adjuvant-boosted protein) without access to the pathogen and/or the DNA/RNA sequence, and then the hard work begins. Development of vaccines normally takes 5-10 years and even with the telescoping underway and tens of billions that are thrown at it as we speak, we're looking at late this year, early next at best.... (and this is VERY optimistic).

An "answer" by the end of april would have been meaningless, if the question had been asked at all.

tl;dr. Most charitable reading: I think you misunderstood what your friend said.  But that's cool.

The answer obviously was that whatever they were trying wasn't going to work. Proteins. RNA. Whatever pathway they were considering. Sars is a Corona family virus and has been around since 2003. That's what they were experimenting with. I suppose they were trying to see if what they were trying with SARS could be very similar and effective with COVID-19. It wasn't. 



 


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Re: The coronavirus thread
« Reply #154 on: May 06, 2020, 07:46:09 PM »
I missed this in the news a few days ago...  Great work by Sen. Ramos...

Hundreds line up in East Elmhurst for free fresh food from upstate farms (Queens Daily Eagle, May 1, 2020)


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« Reply #155 on: May 08, 2020, 04:26:31 PM »


I would like to extend some early Mother's Day wishes to everybody! Here are the Latest Updates Regarding the City and State’s Response to COVID-19:

-As of 3 PM, New York State now has 330,407 confirmed COVID-19 cases and 26,121 deaths; 181,783 confirmed cases in New York City and 19,561 deaths. Source: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6.

-New York State on PAUSE is extended through 5/15.

-The MTA will close the Subway system every morning from 1 AM to 5 AM for deep cleaning.

-The Department of Education has issued a new grading policy that will not factor in attendance in grades and will not fail any students. More info here: https://www.schools.nyc.gov/learn-at-home/chancellor-s-message-for-families

-All non-essential events, such as parades, concerts, and rallies, are cancelled through the end of June in New York City.

-New York State has launched a new initiative to call every person diagnosed with COVID-19, establish all contacts of this person, and proceed to call and maintain ongoing communication with every contact.
New York State plans to hire a team of 6,400 to 17,000 staff statewide, depending on the projected number of COVID-19 cases, to support the NYS Department of Health (NYSDOH) and Local Health Departments (LHDs) to perform contact tracing in communities across NYS. If you or someone you know in New York State is interested in applying to be a part of the Contact Tracing team, go to the NYS Department of Health website at  https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/get-involved-how-you-can-help.

-Antibody tests will be conducted at 34-09 Queens Boulevard in Long Island City. Testing will be done by appointment only, and NYC will set up a hotline to set up appointments.

-COVID-19 tests are being conducted at the Woodside Houses. Priority for NYCHA residents, those over 65, those with pre-existing conditions. Walk-ins are welcome and there is no cost. Bring ID and insurance card, no insurance — still welcome.

-The IRS launched a new web tool allowing quick registration for Economic Impact Payments for those who don’t normally file a tax return. The non-filer tool provides a free and easy option designed for people who don’t have a return filing obligation, including those with too little income to file. The feature is available only on IRS.gov, and users should look for Non-filers: Enter Payment Info Here to take them directly to the tool, or go to http://www.irs.gov/nonfilereip

-The Paycheck Protection Program has restarted acceptance of applications from small businesses. For help with applying, call the New York Small Business Development Center at LaGuardia College at (718) 482-5303.

-The New York State Department of Labor announced the launch of a new application for New Yorkers to apply for traditional Unemployment Insurance or the new COVID-19 Pandemic Unemployment Assistance. This one-stop-shop for unemployment benefits will connect New Yorkers with the benefits they deserve faster, without requiring them to call the Department of Labor: https://my.ny.gov/LoginV4/login.xhtml

-If you need assistance with your unemployment application, please contact our office and we will be happy to assist.

-All New Yorkers will now be able to vote by mail in the June 23rd elections. All voters will automatically be mailed an absentee ballot application to request a mail-in ballot.

-Please don't forget to fill out the Census at https://2020census.gov

-By completing the Census 2020, Commonpoint Queens will enter your name into a raffle and add you as a complete!  Enter to win a $100 Gift Card from CPQ here: https://www.commonpointqueens.org/program/2020-census-outreach/ or text 917-757-1021.

-The Mayor's Office of Immigrant Affairs has created a resource page for immigrant communities during the pandemic that is translated into ten languages, including Spanish, Bengali, and Chinese: https://www1.nyc.gov/site/immigrants/help/city-services/resources-for-immigrant-communities-during-covid-19-pandemic.page

-If you live in New York City and you have DACA, call ActionNYC at 1-800-354-0365 for help renewing your application. They may even be able to help you out with the renewal fee.

-National Grid is warning customers to beware of a new phone scam where impostors are demanding immediate bill payment and threatening service disconnection. This latest scam, which is targeting customers already facing hardships due to COVID-19, involves callers who pretend to be National Grid representatives. They tell customers that unless payment is made within 30 minutes, their power will be shut off. The customer is then directed to call “the direct billing department to make a payment and avoid power disconnection.”
      The scammers use sophisticated phone systems that display National Grid on the customer’s caller ID. Additionally, the phone number customers are instructed to call closely resembles the company’s recorded messaging and phone prompt directions. These elements make it difficult to differentiate an actual National Grid call from an impostor’s call. When in doubt, customers should hang up and call the National Grid customer service number on their bill.

-Alternate Side Parking: Alternate Side Parking Regulations will be suspended through Tuesday, May 12. Parking meters and all other parking rules remain in effect. The City may extend the suspension based on street cleanliness and workforce availability.

-There will be a virtual town hall on domestic violence resources during COVID-19 next Thursday, May 14th from 11 AM to 12:30 PM. Go to http://queensbp.org/rsvp to register.

Food Issues

-NYC is increasing capacity of halal meals at all of their Grab-and-Go sites so that members of the Muslim community have access to meals while observing Ramadan.

-All Farmers Markets will remain open.

-The Department of Education is now offering additional meals for adults at the 440 sites they are currently serving students free meals throughout the day. Folks can pick up 3 meals at a time from 7:30am - 1:30pm; from 7:30 AM to 11:30 AM, children/families will be served, and from 11:30 AM to 1:30 PM, adults will be served. Locations can found on the DOE website or texting NYC Food or NYC comida to 877-877 to answer any questions you may have.

-Here is a map of all Grab and Go meal locations and food pantries in the city: https://dsny.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=35901167a9d84fb0a2e0672d344f176f Hover your cursor for the dots for additional details

-For homebound seniors and those with disabilities, you can apply to have meals delivered for you by calling 311 or going to https://cv19engagementportal.cityofnewyork.us/#/display/5e7555117ad6750216160409

-New Yorkers can use their SNAP benefits to order online. For more info head to: www1.nyc.gov/site/hra/help/snap-online-shopping.page

School/Child Care

-AP students can still take this year’s exam, even though schools are closed. The College Board is offering at-home digital testing and free, online review courses @ www.youtube.com/advancedplacement. The exam content will focus on what most schools were able to complete by early March. Students will be able to take their exams on any device they have access to—computer, tablet, or smartphone. They’ll also have the option to write their responses by hand and submit a photo. Exams will be given from May 11-22. Make-up test dates will be available for each subject from June 1-5. In addition, the College Board is working to help students with connectivity issues get access to the tools they need to use the practice resources and take the test. More information is available at www.cb.org/coronavirusAPstudents

-NYC has opened several dozen Regional Enrichment Centers across the City, to serve the children of our City’s first responders, healthcare workers, transit workers, and our most vulnerable populations. Here is a list of centers in our area: PS/IS 128 - 69-10 65th Drive 11379
P.S. 19 - QUEENS - 98-02 ROOSEVELT AVENUE 11368
ELMHURST EDUCATIONAL CAMPUS - Q 45-10 94TH STREET 11373
Mosaic Pre-K Center at 44-15 Judge Street 44-15 Judge Street 11373
LONG ISLAND CITY HS(NEW)-Q 14-30 BROADWAY 11106
P.S. 11 - QUEENS 54-25 SKILLMAN AVENUE 11377
District 30 Pre-K Center at 3252 37th Street

-The Regional Enrichment Centers also serve grocery and pharmacy workers.

-The New York City Department of Education wants every student who needs a device for remote learning to have one, even if the student does not have internet access at home. Simply call 718-935-5100 and choose Option 5 on the menu. Someone will help you get a device with internet connection. You can also fill out this form: https://coronavirus.schools.nyc/RemoteLearningDevices

-All Queens Public Library locations may be closed, but many free digital resources are available online at https://www.queenslibrary.org/about-us/news-media/blog/2041?utm_source=oracle&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=digitalresources2020_BLG

Jobs/Small Business

-The Queens Public Library has created a Job and Business Academy, which will provide assistance with creating a resumé. For assistance, email jobsearchhelp@queenslibrary.org with questions.

-The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey is offering a series of Google business internet webinars on May 12 and 19 from 1:00 PM to 2:00 PM. Register here: https://events.withgoogle.com/google-digital-coaches-program-new-york/registrations/new/?utm_source=website

-If your business needs help with a lease, free legal assistance can be obtained from the Commercial Lease Assistance Program. Go to this website for more details: https://www1.nyc.gov/nycbusiness/article/commercial-lease-assistance-program

-The City Bar Justice Center is providing pro bono legal consultations for businesses trying to access federal, state, and local business assistance programs. Go to https://www.citybarjusticecenter.org/covid-19-small-business-remote-legal-clinic/ for more info.

-CAMBA, a human services organization that provides services to the homeless, is hiring for positions to support their shelter programs, including Maintenance Workers, all locations and shifts;Security Guards, all locations and shifts; Shift Supervisors (including per diem opportunities), all locations and shifts; Residential Aides, all locations and shifts; and Social Workers (LMSW and LCSW), all locations and shifts. Prospective employees should email their resume to submitresumes@camba.org.

-The Taxi and Limousine Commission is recruiting for TLC-licensed drivers to help with important work related to COVID-19, such as delivering food to older adults who can’t leave their homes. This work will be paid $15/hour plus reimbursement for gas and tolls. Drivers will be selected on a first-come, first-serve basis: cv19engagementportal.cityofnewyork.us/#/display/5e7634997ad67502161607c2

-The Small Business Administration is offering the opportunity to apply for disaster loans: disasterloan.sba.gov/ela/Account/Login?ReturnUrl=%2Fela%2FLoanApplication%2FStartApplication

-Due to COVID-19, all Council for Airport Opportunity Career Centers are closed until further notice. CAO will be temporarily accepting online registration from our NY & NJ community. All in-person orientations and pre-screenings are now conducted over the phone. Participants, who are interested in our services are invited to register using one of the following methods. 1.) You may register at www.caonynj.com 2.) By applying on CAO Ziprecruiter postings. 3.) Or submit your resume at career@caony.com. Please include the position title and airport preference in the subject field. Our Account Managers will contact you using the information you provided and complete your registration.

-NYC's Workforce One website is operational for job seekers: https://access.nyc.gov/programs/workforce-1/

-In response to the COVID-19 state of emergency in NYC, the NYC Department of Consumer and Worker Protection’s Office of Financial Empowerment has transitioned all of our financial counseling and coaching programs to offer services remotely: http://nyc.gov/talkmoney

Advisories from State/Local/Federal Agencies/Utilities

-The NYC Department of Environmental Protection will be holding a public meeting May 21st to present their Draft MS4 Annual Report. For more info and registration, go to https://nyc.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c91edca784e38ddfde992dd03&id=22f2a96807&e=8d73eb25aa

-The organization Sanctuary for Families is still providing assistance to survivors of domestic violence; they can still secure orders of protection. You can call their legal helpline at (212) 349-6009 or visit http://sanctuaryforfamilies.org/get-help

-Housing Court will not have any new HP filings except those that are considered emergencies. Emergencies consist of no running water, a non-functioning toilet; no gas is under consideration for being thought of as an emergency.

-The NYC Department of Transportation (DOT) announced a new effort to discourage cash payments at the City’s parking meters and encourage contactless parking payment by smartphone. The Pay-By-Cell option protects the safety of both DOT’s workforce and the public by reducing physical interactions with the City’s 14,000 meters. ParkNYC: Launched in December 2016 and available for free download in the Apple Store or Google Play, ParkNYC allows account holders to pay for parking at any metered parking space on a new pay-as-you-go basis with no additional fees after loading an initial $25 wallet balance. The popular app was used for more than 22 million parking transactions last year.
ParkMobile: To enhance the Pay-by-Cell program and encourage contactless transactions, DOT is now temporarily offering the option to use the nationwide ParkMobile app for single transactions, for a 15-cent per transaction fee. While meters will continue to accept coins and credit cards, we encourage all customers to consider their own safety and the safety of our workers — and opt for mobile payments. The app accepts Visa, Mastercard, American Express, and Discover.

-The City is providing assistance for burials: https://www1.nyc.gov/site/hra/help/burial-assistance.page

-The City has increased the maximum payment for burials from $900 to $1700.

-The National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) has issued guidance on applying for the $75 million it was allocated in the CARES Act. If a nonprofit cultural organization has received NEA support in the last four fiscal years, they are eligible to apply for a direct grant. Apply by April 22! https://www.arts.gov/grants/apply-grant/grants-organizations

-Here is the Department of Finance's new FAQ page re SCRIE/DRIE during the pandemic: https://www1.nyc.gov/site/rentfreeze/help/covid-19-frequently-asked-questions.page

-US Citizenship and Immigration Services has clarified that seeking or using medical treatment or preventive healthcare services related to COVID-19 will NOT be considered under the Public Charge rule, even if the services are Medicaid-funded. Seek care without fear.

-USCIS also announced that it is adopting measures to minimize the immigration consequences associated with responding to requests for evidence (RFEs) and notices of intent to deny (NOIDs) dated between March 1 and May 1, 2020Requests for Evidence and Notices of Intent to Deny: For applicants and petitioners who receive an RFE or NOID dated between March 1 and May 1, 2020, any responses submitted within 60 calendar days after the response deadline set forth in the RFE or NOID will be considered by USCIS before any action is taken.
USCIS will provide further updates as the situation develops and will continue to follow the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s guidance. Please visit uscis.gov/coronavirus for the latest facts and other USCIS updates.

-Spectrum is offering free internet for 60 days to college students and households with K-12 students that currently do not have internet. In addition, people behind on their Spectrum bill can get their internet service restored. Call (833) 267-6094 for more details.

-National Grid has temporarily suspended collections-related activities, including service disconnections, to lessen any financial hardship the COVID-19 pandemic may cause. For customers struggling to make payments, there is a financial assistance program to ease the burden; speak to customer service. Currently all late fees are being waived.

-New York City’s Department of Finance announced it will waive penalties for DOF-administered business and excise taxes due this spring.

More Miscellaneous Health Info

-Through May 15th, 2020, health insurance enrollment is open for uninsured New Yorkers as part of a Special Enrollment Period: Get Covered

-The Community Service Society of New York is offering assistance with student loans. The Education Debt Consumer Assistance Program (EDCAP) continues to provide essential servicers amid this crisis to ensure. EDCAP is providing updates on what is happened at the federal and state level: Visit edcapny.org. One-on-One Assistance: To speak to a Financial Counselor or schedule an appointment, call 888-614-5004.

-In order to fight the spread of COVID-19 within households that are in particularly high-risk communities, New York City is offering 11,000 free hotel rooms for people who need to quarantine. Hotel rooms will be offered based on referrals from NYC Health + Hospitals and community health providers, beginning on Wednesday.  These will be targeted in particular to people in overcrowded homes, health care workers regardless of symptoms, and New Yorkers experiencing homelessness. Clients must be COVID positive or COVID-symptomatic and unable to isolate where they live. These are individuals who do not require medical care and can self-isolate with basic services, including: onsite medical and social services, meals, laundry, phone, internet, daily check-in calls by medical staff, and transportation to and from the hotel as needed. To learn more about the program, visit nyc.gov/covid19hotel.

-Here is a COVID-19 resource guide for people with disabilities: https://www1.nyc.gov/site/mopd/resources/covid-19-resources-for-people-with-disabilities.page

-Here is an FAQ on New York State's new paid sick leave law on COVID-19: https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/imm/covid-19-paid-sick-leave-order-faq.pdf

-The City has announced a free new digital platform to provide safe, fun, and entertaining virtual activities for New York City’s teens and young adults. This first-of-its-kind campaign combines city and community resources to engage teens who are at home during the COVID-19 crisis, and also provides tips to cope with the public and mental health challenges that may arise during this difficult time. Fun at Home can be accessed at nyc.gov/funathome or texting “Fun” to 97743 to receive the latest updates on resources and activities.

-Commonpoint Queens is offering free virtual mental health counseling and other services to help Queens residents cope with the coronavirus crisis: https://www.commonpointqueens.org/covid19/

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Re: The coronavirus thread
« Reply #156 on: May 11, 2020, 01:15:37 PM »
After the flurry of hopeful vaccines and drug therapy...I am hearing medics are now also factoring in the situation whereby COVID-19 may become endemic. In other words, no vaccine or treatment for many years.

This means...I suppose...we will have to learn to live with folks dying of it.  Like in the bad ol' days pre-antibiotics and pre-vaccines...like cholera and typhoid etc...pre-1940's.


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« Reply #157 on: May 11, 2020, 02:45:15 PM »
that scenario has been bandied about a lot lately, and it could very well come to pass. that's why it's important to be extremely vigilant these nexxt 18-24 months. we still don't have a foolproof cholera vaccine (just a workable one), but fortunately this country is relatively protected against the root causes of that disease.

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Re: The coronavirus thread
« Reply #158 on: May 22, 2020, 07:05:30 PM »
Some posts in this thread veered into "political commentary" so that's where they were moved. Please see the Political Commentary thread to continue that discussion.


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Re: The coronavirus thread
« Reply #160 on: May 23, 2020, 05:59:09 PM »
i've called to report egregious violations -- a $20 can of lysol at a pharmacy in the 80s for instance. i was told that reports were being investigated.

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« Reply #160 on: May 23, 2020, 05:59:09 PM »