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Offline Shelby2

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Is the NYC subway ready for the L train shutdown?
« on: October 20, 2018, 08:08:02 PM »
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"While the MTA will be able to more than double the number of G cars traveling in each direction by running both more and longer trains, the G is just a means to an end for displaced L riders. The MTA expects 26 percent of L refugees will transfer via the G to the E, M, or 7 in Long Island City. Although the MTA will allow for free out-of-station transfers between the G and 7, most will transfer at Court Square.

As I’ve previously written, the Court Square transfer from the G to the E/M is a literal embodiment of a bottleneck. The MTA did remove the station’s moving walkways—which were out of service much of the time anyways—to improve passenger flow in the long tunnel connecting the G and E/M, but in the a.m. rush those transferees will meet the bottleneck before descending to the far end of the platform. It will be imperative for platform controllers to keep people moving.

Capacity on the trains themselves is a worry—the MTA will increase capacity on both the M and 7 lines by 11 and seven percent respectively—but once again the biggest concern is the platform space."

https://ny.curbed.com/2018/10/3/17925038/nyc-subway-l-train-shutdown-mitigation-alternatives?fbclid=IwAR3vz4BbtzV_STnV8rkfCjz31flxoUXfjdObpt1p9btQPvBz48NgTFDytoQ


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Re: Is the NYC subway ready for the L train shutdown?
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2018, 08:24:41 PM »
It seems like the R and the F from Jackson Heights to Manhattan may be the best lines to take to avoid the crowds from the "L train refugees."

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Re: Is the NYC subway ready for the L train shutdown?
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2018, 11:12:38 PM »
i'm just hoping the shutdown actually only lasts as long as they're saying going in.

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Re: Is the NYC subway ready for the L train shutdown?
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2018, 11:16:25 PM »
i'm just hoping the shutdown actually only lasts as long as they're saying going in.

That seems unlikely.

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Re: Is the NYC subway ready for the L train shutdown?
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2018, 06:37:40 PM »
Isn't the point of the moving walkways to improve passenger flow? Are they admitting they don't know how to maintain it? Why was it there in the first place then?

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Re: Is the NYC subway ready for the L train shutdown?
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2018, 09:51:53 PM »
Isn't the point of the moving walkways to improve passenger flow? Are they admitting they don't know how to maintain it? Why was it there in the first place then?

Maybe it takes up too much space. Also you have people who get on and just stand there. Perhaps people moving via their own two feet take up less space than people standing and being moved on a platform.

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Re: Is the NYC subway ready for the L train shutdown?
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2018, 10:20:24 AM »
You know that this work would cost 1/10 the price and be done in weeks in any Chinese city. They would work 24/7. This is why the US will be a second rate power soon.

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Re: Is the NYC subway ready for the L train shutdown?
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2018, 01:20:19 PM »
Maybe they could pickup and deliver!

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Re: Is the NYC subway ready for the L train shutdown?
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2018, 01:50:44 PM »
You know that this work would cost 1/10 the price and be done in weeks in any Chinese city. They would work 24/7. This is why the US will be a second rate power soon.


Well yeah, because they exploit their labor. The US became a world power on the backs of slaves and cheap labor. I would look more to models by Japan or maybe Taiwan or Scandanavian countries in how to make the entire country happy.

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Re: Is the NYC subway ready for the L train shutdown?
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2019, 01:10:29 PM »
From the NY Post:

Cuomo plans to halt the dreaded L train shutdown

Less than a month after deeming the 15-month total shutdown of the L-train tunnel linking Manhattan and Brooklyn “vital,” Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Thursday planned to backpedal at the 11th hour and announce a more piecemeal approach, sources told The Post.

Rather than the long-anticipated complete year-plus closure of the tunnel — which was expected to plunge cross-borough commutes into chaos starting April 27 — Cuomo backed a longer-term overhaul on nights and weekends, leaving the line running during weekdays.

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Re: Is the NYC subway ready for the L train shutdown?
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2019, 05:53:41 PM »
From the NY Post:

Cuomo plans to halt the dreaded L train shutdown

Less than a month after deeming the 15-month total shutdown of the L-train tunnel linking Manhattan and Brooklyn “vital,” Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Thursday planned to backpedal at the 11th hour and announce a more piecemeal approach, sources told The Post.

Rather than the long-anticipated complete year-plus closure of the tunnel — which was expected to plunge cross-borough commutes into chaos starting April 27 — Cuomo backed a longer-term overhaul on nights and weekends, leaving the line running during weekdays.


This seems like good news. I'm surprised at the 11th hour announcement, but still cautiously optimistic. If it works, it means a lot less grief for the riders of the 7 and E trains. I wonder if Amazon had anything to do with it.

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Re: Is the NYC subway ready for the L train shutdown?
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2019, 07:45:08 AM »
From the NY Post:

Cuomo plans to halt the dreaded L train shutdown

Less than a month after deeming the 15-month total shutdown of the L-train tunnel linking Manhattan and Brooklyn “vital,” Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Thursday planned to backpedal at the 11th hour and announce a more piecemeal approach, sources told The Post.

Rather than the long-anticipated complete year-plus closure of the tunnel — which was expected to plunge cross-borough commutes into chaos starting April 27 — Cuomo backed a longer-term overhaul on nights and weekends, leaving the line running during weekdays.


This seems like good news. I'm surprised at the 11th hour announcement, but still cautiously optimistic. If it works, it means a lot less grief for the riders of the 7 and E trains. I wonder if Amazon had anything to do with it.

I guess we potentially won't see as many people fleeing areas along the L in Brooklyn at the last minute as we thought. This is nothing but good news if they can make it happen. Cautiously optimistic as well.

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Re: Is the NYC subway ready for the L train shutdown?
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2019, 07:45:08 AM »