Nine stories not enough, city planners approve four more at "Target" building

[dssjh]

Trump university style pivots and dodges again. Hilarity ensues. But we agree, the future will continue to happen in the future!

I will ignore the insult, DSSJH as you can't help yourself. It seems to be a compulsion for you.  Like a tic!

But here's to the future!

and you can't help but call yourself a visionary and mock anyone who disagrees with you by saying they're stuck in the past, old and dull-witted, insisting that your vision of the future is the only one that will take hold. it's kinda sweet. bitcoin forever!

[abcdefghijk]

Trump university style pivots and dodges again. Hilarity ensues. But we agree, the future will continue to happen in the future!

I will ignore the insult, DSSJH as you can't help yourself. It seems to be a compulsion for you.  Like a tic!

But here's to the future!

it's kinda sweet.

I will take the positive from what you've said.  "It's kinda sweet". So thanks, DSSJH.  And if you meant it patronizingly, never mind...I will still take it on face value and assume you mean well. 

[JK resident]

Please let’s get back on point. New article states the reason why the zoning is considered not acceptable. As I previously stated the Sterling bank site with its size and C4-3 zoning would be allowed as a right but this site would require a variance from the Board of Standards.

https://www.timesledger.com/stories/2018/37/82ndstreet_2018_09_14_q.html

[abcdefghijk]

Please let’s get back on point. New article states the reason why the zoning is considered not acceptable. As I previously stated the Sterling bank site with its size and C4-3 zoning would be allowed as a right but this site would require a variance from the Board of Standards.

https://www.timesledger.com/stories/2018/37/82ndstreet_2018_09_14_q.html

In your subtext, are you suggesting that Target move to the Sterling Bank site instead? (I do doubt greatly that Target scouts read this blog.)

[JK resident]

They could as a right open on 73rd and Broadway but would never get a variance on 82nd. They are many people who strongly suggested that they want a neighborhood Target. I am offering a possible location.

[abcdefghijk]

They could as a right open on 73rd and Broadway but would never get a variance on 82nd. They are many people who strongly suggested that they want a neighborhood Target. I am offering a possible location.

It's like playing the computer game SIM CITY.  Creating virtual cities.  It is fun to play. (Though in my version of SIM CITY I do think that Sterling Bank site is only a fraction the size of the 82nd St square footage.  Plus I imagine anti-Target sentiments run all the way to 73rd St.)

But again, I am pretty sure the Target folks aren't reading this blog.

I am completely neutral about a Target opening.  Fine if it does.  Fine if it doesn't.

But I don't believe that a Target would decimate small businesses. Target doesn't sell Latino/Asian/South Asian products/specialities.

And actually if it's one of those Targets with a supermarket food section...that's a plus...as the supermarket section of Target usually has good prices for basic groceries.

[toddg]

Jackson Heights Post: Target Still Coming to 82nd Street, DOB Rescinds Stop-Work Order

[Paul11372]

Jackson Heights Post: Target Still Coming to 82nd Street, DOB Rescinds Stop-Work Order

Provides solid Union, middle class, construction jobs. don't let the NIMBY's win!

[JK resident]

So we are still going to get a Target but now it will be two small crappy stores. I guess the NIMBY’s have won a partial victory. If I was Target, I would walk away from that location and focus on a place that will allow a big footprint store. I don’t understand why they are in love with that site.

[wk067781]

can't wait for the Target to open!

[jh35]

So we are still going to get a Target but now it will be two small crappy stores. I guess the NIMBY’s have won a partial victory. If I was Target, I would walk away from that location and focus on a place that will allow a big footprint store. I don’t understand why they are in love with that site.

How can a building go from a 9 story building to a two story building? Didn't it start as a 5 story building?

What is it called when a gentrified neighborhood is changed by immigrants who will not let non-immigrant owned stores open?

Is this to become a 99 cent store and pharmacy only neighborhood?

[sl]

can't wait for the Target to open!

Same. I wish they open a Target at the former Sports Authority location on Northern.

[Shelby2]

So we are still going to get a Target but now it will be two small crappy stores. I guess the NIMBY’s have won a partial victory. If I was Target, I would walk away from that location and focus on a place that will allow a big footprint store. I don’t understand why they are in love with that site.

Probably because the location is ideal, being right next to the 82nd St subway, and not far from Elmhurst Hospital, which must have thousands of employees. Not to mention the massive population of Jackson Heights itself -- this Target is actually in walking distance of Jackson Heights, as opposed to the Elmhurst one which is only walking distance if you feel like walking 20-30 minutes each way.

[Shelby2]

So we are still going to get a Target but now it will be two small crappy stores. I guess the NIMBY’s have won a partial victory. If I was Target, I would walk away from that location and focus on a place that will allow a big footprint store. I don’t understand why they are in love with that site.

Did they win? I'm not sure. I thought Queens Neighborhood United was against Target. They lost that part. I'm not sure where they stood on affordable housing, but the old plan contained quite a bit of extremely affordable housing, and all that seems to be gone.

I'm happy with the outcome. I support Target being here in the neighborhood, and at the same time, I did think a 9 to 13 story building would have added too much congestion to an already crowded area.

[JK resident]

I agree there is too much housing in that area. Thank God they scraped the residential tower. Now we can have more in those other ground level retail stores like a 99cent store, a pharmacy, optical and bank which are all are in short supply in JH. The NIMBY’s have won because the Target will be much smaller than originally planned.