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Offline Ed

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« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2018, 06:06:29 PM »
You can do ALL of that stuff without a TV. If you need a TV in front of you to start a conversation with someone, I dunno, that just seems very limited to me. In my experience, it's a great conversation STOPPER, unless it's a sporting event. And, as others have pointed out, there are plenty of other places where that is an option. Is your only satisfaction in having a TV in EVERY eating or drinking establishment you patronize?

And speaking of patronizing, nice touch with the "cell phone in front of you"; if the "low quality" remark bugged you, you should say so, rather than indulging in your own nuanced insults.

Since Mike has worked in a number of restaurants that have NOT had TVs and still managed to stay busy, I don't think he's going to have to work too hard to get folks in the front door. Particularly since they really seem to be meeting an often voiced wish on this board for the last 10 or so years I've been visiting it.

Too each his own, maybe we'll get to raise a glass together if everything's reruns and you've seen it all already...

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« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2018, 07:36:12 PM »
I suppose some people don't want a television in the place because they would rather sit across from each other and stare at their phones.

No...actually, I would rather talk to the people I'm eating with. Which I find difficult when a TV is on. Of course, that varies depending on what's on the TV and whether the sound is on or off, and how close I am to it. But it's not something I'm ever thrilled to see.

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« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2018, 08:18:37 PM »
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I suppose some people don't want a television in the place because they would rather sit across from each other and stare at their phones.

I think if you really think this you need to get better friends that don't tune you out when you go out to eat with them. It's really basic civility when you sit down to eat with your friends or family to put the darn phone away. Get it off the table. Put it on vibrate. If you can (and you really, really probably can), turn it off or put it in airplane mode. Chances are slim anyone's world or your own is going to fall apart if you don't respond to a text within the next 60 minutes.

I hate TVs in restaurants because moving images are distracting. They draw a human's eye even when you don't want to look at them. And it's especially whacky that 9/10 times, close captioning is turned off and the volume is muted. Why exactly is that TV on again?

Staring blankly at a TV screen does not encourage community. It does not encourage anyone to interact with anyone else, which is sort of necessary for community building. The exception is sports bars. And other specialties like the gay bars that do viewings of Drag Race.

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But I think he is also suggesting that the place would want to appeal to the widest variety of customers, and lots of them--like 85er--would want a TV.

If that is what 85er is suggesting, 85er would probably be wrong. The number of potential customers that would not consider going to eat a nice, casual Bistro without a TV is probably quite negligible. I don't think an American Bistro - which is how they are describing themselves -- is targeting people who need a TV to stare at while they shove food in their face. If you want to eat some place with the widest appeal, there's always McDonald's. (which doesn't have TVs either.)
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Offline JHALUM

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« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2018, 11:11:01 PM »
I would prefer not to have TV's in the restaurant area but would think they are preferable in the bar area if you are looking to draw a bar crowd.  There are too many times  when there might be a soccer, football or baseball game  people might  want to watch.

In any case sometimes I think this board over estimates how much influence it will have over neighborhood  decisions.  I like the board to  share information but in reality it is a very very small percentage of  the people who will visit the neighborhood establishments on which it is commenting. I am guessing there are 25-30 regular posters on this board and how many times a week will these people eat at the Queensboro? The  decision on whether to have or not have TV's  will be determined by the customer market.

Offline Jeffsayyes

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« Reply #34 on: March 04, 2018, 04:59:44 AM »
Would you guys please decide on tv vs no tv? Dudley et al are waiting for your decision before they open

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« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2018, 08:51:29 AM »
Agree there are only a few people who comment in this board, but it's a nice outlet for expressing opinions, frustrations, etc, and also serves as a tiny focus group for Dudley and partners to hear what people who are interested enough to comment here--future customers--are thinking.

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« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2018, 01:15:46 PM »
In any case sometimes I think this board over estimates how much influence it will have over neighborhood  decisions.

LOL .  Very true.

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« Reply #37 on: March 08, 2018, 01:22:40 PM »
Would you guys please decide on tv vs no tv? Dudley et al are waiting for your decision before they open

 ;D 

No TVs. That's what phones are for ;)

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« Reply #38 on: March 09, 2018, 08:15:29 AM »
No tv. I go to eat, not watch tv.

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« Reply #39 on: March 09, 2018, 09:02:51 AM »
whats the obsession over TV;s? I couldn't care less either way, i've never been distracted by TV's and they are usually on mute anyway so whats the issue? does it make a place less "fancy" for some?

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« Reply #40 on: March 09, 2018, 10:31:56 AM »
whats the obsession over TV;s? I couldn't care less either way, i've never been distracted by TV's and they are usually on mute anyway so whats the issue? does it make a place less "fancy" for some?

Some of us have given our reasons for not liking TVs in restaurants, so why do you ask what the issue is? Fanciness isn't an issue for me. I enjoy eating in less-fancy places. Just because you're lucky enough not to find them distracting doesn't mean it's not a problem for others. In my experience, even if the sound is on mute, or turned low, it's often been some sports event that was on and people watching it made noise in response to the action. (And no, I wasn't in sports bars!)

(By the way, I don't think I've ever thought any opinion I expressed on here would affect any business owner's decisions! ;D )


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« Reply #41 on: March 09, 2018, 10:52:11 AM »
If there is a bar, then a TV is fine with me.  I like sitting at a bar by myself with a drink glancing at the television now and then. On the other hand, it's not a make or break issue as far as I'm concerned. 

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« Reply #42 on: March 09, 2018, 10:55:42 AM »
whats the obsession over TV;s? I couldn't care less either way, i've never been distracted by TV's and they are usually on mute anyway so whats the issue? does it make a place less "fancy" for some?

Some of us have given our reasons for not liking TVs in restaurants, so why do you ask what the issue is? Fanciness isn't an issue for me. I enjoy eating in less-fancy places. Just because you're lucky enough not to find them distracting doesn't mean it's not a problem for others. In my experience, even if the sound is on mute, or turned low, it's often been some sports event that was on and people watching it made noise in response to the action. (And no, I wasn't in sports bars!)

(By the way, I don't think I've ever thought any opinion I expressed on here would affect any business owner's decisions! ;D )

Unless you go during a major sporting event I've never seen people making noise in a restaurant over the TV. i just dont get the NO TV fuss i always read about on JHL and if they make a place uninhabitable.

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« Reply #43 on: March 09, 2018, 07:35:23 PM »
I've seen some pretty unappetizing stuff broadcast on TV screens in eating establishments.

The customer is a captive audience. You can't change the channel. Besides soccer which is usually repeats of games already played, I've actually had to stomach a bloody boxing match, insects and reptiles doing disgusting things to survive, women-demeaning music videos, to name just a few.

Two, it seems that TVs are set to entertain the staff more than the clientele. Anyway, that's who is usually looking at it. A smart restaurateur should not encourage staff to be watching TV.

Plus, it is believed to be bad for your waistline to eat while preoccupied.

so yeah, TVs can cheapen and erode the dining experience.

Management can turn on a big-screen for showing advance-advertised real-time matches and political debates, as well as newsworthy coverage of catastrophic events (i'm recalling how helpful TV was on 9/11). In fact, I would recommend something like that as a community benefit.
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« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2018, 07:43:57 PM »
Dudley, you started this thread, so it was you who added the ! to your name.

I like it!

Keep it!

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« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2018, 07:43:57 PM »