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« Reply #225 on: February 15, 2019, 11:06:39 PM »
Passthekimchi:  According to Governor Cuomo, the $3 Billion dollar investment in Amazon would have created nine times this amount or $27 Billion Dollars for the State and City.  Please explain how Amazon never had the best interest of NYC and our community, Jackson Heights.  Your comment is beyond irresponsible and outrageous.   

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Re: Amazon HQ2 in LIC? Yay or Nay?
« Reply #226 on: February 15, 2019, 11:25:47 PM »
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On Thursday night, hours after Amazon's stunning announcement that it was cancelling their move, Silva-Farrell and around 100 other activists gathered for their victory party—an elated celebration that brought a mariachi band, chants of "Bye Bezos," and a pinata depicting the Amazon CEO's face to Jackson Heights' Diversity Plaza.

http://gothamist.com/2019/02/15/amazon_queens_victory_party.php

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« Reply #227 on: February 15, 2019, 11:33:17 PM »
re: Cuomo claims. politicians claim a lot of things, from massive middle tax breaks to universal health care overnight at no charge. i'd take the $27 billion figure with a truckload of salt.

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« Reply #228 on: February 15, 2019, 11:54:36 PM »
Mariachi makes losing out on economic opportunity feel downright festive.  ;D

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« Reply #229 on: February 16, 2019, 03:10:00 AM »
An article in the Washington Post about Google's secret land and tax breaks for data centers (with mentions of Amazon and Apple):

"Google reaped millions in tax breaks as it secretly expanded its real estate footprint across the U.S."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/google-reaped-millions-of-tax-breaks-as-it-secretly-expanded-its-real-estate-footprint-across-the-us/2019/02/15/7912e10e-3136-11e9-813a-0ab2f17e305b_story.html?utm_term=.8f2f1f701adb

“I’m confident that had the community known this project was under the direction of Google, people would have spoken out, but we were never given the chance to speak,” said Travis Smith, managing editor of the Waxahachie Daily Light, the local paper. “We didn’t know that it was Google until after it passed.”

“So Google comes in and pays no taxes for 10 years, and only brings in 40 jobs hmm sounds like a great idea,” wrote another.

Smith, the managing editor of the paper, said, “I’m not going to say we’ve been lied to, but we’ve been strung along.”

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An opinion piece in the Washington Post about the Amazon deal in LIC:

"Amazon’s political mugging in New York is a warning for American business"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/amazons-political-mugging-in-new-york-is-a-warning-for-american-business/2019/02/15/0f9686d8-313e-11e9-813a-0ab2f17e305b_story.html?utm_term=.dc05b62d9a86

"While Amazon reflects many of the best attributes of American capitalism — its efficiency, its creativity, its risk-taking, the choice and value it offers consumers, and the wealth it creates for shareholders — it also exhibits some of its worst traits. (Usual disclaimer: The Washington Post is owned by Jeffrey P. Bezos, Amazon founder and chief executive.) The ruthlessness. The instinct to dismiss critics and criticism. The arrogance and insularity of top executives. The fixation on secrecy and control. The disdain for government and the disregard for the public interest. The too-easy acceptance of extreme inequality. Many of these traits were on display in the HQ2 process.

The political mugging that Amazon received in New York is a preview of what is in store for American business if it fails to repair the social contract and replenish the social capital it has depleted. The choice for the business community is either to embrace rules and practices that strike a better balance between shareholders, workers, customers and the public, or have rules and practices much less to its liking imposed by an angry and sometimes irrational public."

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Re: Amazon HQ2 in LIC? Yay or Nay?
« Reply #230 on: February 16, 2019, 08:08:37 AM »
But, hey, we've still got Roosevice Avenue.

You do have a point.

The oldest profession flourishes here in the Red Light District of Roosevelt Ave.

Whilst the newest industry (tech) is shunned.

Well, Queens has made its decision concerning its future.

Perhaps the Red Light District of Roosevelt Ave can be turned into a tourist attraction like in Amsterdam? 

When you are given lemons, make lemonade...


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Re: Amazon HQ2 in LIC? Yay or Nay?
« Reply #231 on: February 18, 2019, 07:28:39 PM »
Feedback.

Some of my more radical/activist peers think it's very cool that Queens has clearly positioned itself as anti-corporation.

I am envisioning that Queens will attract the more radical/activist types, since it appears we now have that reputation.

So, rather than tech gentrification which I suppose will go to Brooklyn/Manhattan...it'll be activist/artist gentrification.  Which, in truth, is more interesting...




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Re: Amazon HQ2 in LIC? Yay or Nay?
« Reply #232 on: February 18, 2019, 07:40:08 PM »
Queens keeps building in LIC. People want to live in modern towers with gyms and other perks. That will not change and will not slow down. Manhattan is too expensive for most. We are about to have one huge residential building open on 72nd street. Another project is in the works with the recent sale of Sterling Bank. The radical types are not changing anything and will be ignored as they don’t create any jobs. 

https://ny.curbed.com/maps/long-island-city-development-boom-construction-map

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« Reply #233 on: February 18, 2019, 07:51:24 PM »
Queens keeps building in LIC. People want to live in modern towers with gyms and other perks. That will not change and will not slow down. Manhattan is too expensive for most. We are about to have one huge residential building open on 72nd street. Another project is in the works with the recent sale of Sterling Bank. The radical types are not changing anything and will be ignored as they don’t create any jobs. 

https://ny.curbed.com/maps/long-island-city-development-boom-construction-map

Since the Amazon decision, everything has changed.  That was the fork in the road.  Queens has chosen a different route.  A new anti-corporation future.

PS I didn't agree with it... but I'm not leaving so I accept (and am curious about) the new reality that surrounds me.

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« Reply #234 on: February 18, 2019, 07:59:17 PM »
The Queens economy is way bigger that 25k jobs. LGA and JFK are the big employers and they are rebuilding both airports. That will only create more jobs by “evil” corporations. Healthcare is number 2 and we have seen many jobs from new hospital buildings. The anti corporation future is a complete dead end. All those buildings and many more will be built. Why? One bedrooms rent for $3500 a month.

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« Reply #235 on: February 18, 2019, 08:23:23 PM »
The Queens economy is way bigger that 25k jobs. LGA and JFK are the big employers and they are rebuilding both airports. That will only create more jobs by “evil” corporations. Healthcare is number 2 and we have seen many jobs from new hospital buildings. The anti corporation future is a complete dead end. All those buildings and many more will be built. Why? One bedrooms rent for $3500 a month.

I am afraid you may be deaf to the LOUD signal the AMAZON withdrawal has just sent to the entire (Corporate and non Corporate) world. 

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« Reply #236 on: February 18, 2019, 09:15:21 PM »
Yeah, Long Island City was a wasteland 18 months ago. squatters in burned out buildings on every block. white castle the only place to eat. Amazon could have saved it. all of Queens is about to collapse. i'll miss Forest Hills most of all.

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« Reply #237 on: February 18, 2019, 09:18:47 PM »
Oh, yeah the corporations making millions a year in Queens are deaf. Nobody cares what a bunch of poor people with low paying jobs and AOC who has a net worth of $5 believes. Remember there are actual wealthy people who own most of Queens and rule over these dopey politicians. These socialist politicians are just envious people who promise circus for the masses. In the end AOC will deliver poverty but she will write a book and make millions from the mindless morons.

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« Reply #238 on: February 18, 2019, 10:05:29 PM »
... you may be deaf to the LOUD signal the AMAZON withdrawal has just sent to the entire (Corporate and non Corporate) world.

Well put.

I'm expecting the fallout to be bad, and especially noticeable in our immediate area. The "hotels" are going up, and companies will certainly approach coming to this neighborhood with caution.

I hope I'm wrong. The Cornell Tech campus is beginning to churn out eager talent, and so maybe startups and smaller, less visible, companies will reap the rewards of that.

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Re: Amazon HQ2 in LIC? Yay or Nay?
« Reply #239 on: February 18, 2019, 10:45:34 PM »
Amazon was never coming to JH. Get a grip. You think you scared developers from making a buck? Look at 72nd and Broadway where two new buildings are almost done. Amazon will continue to build at the old Bulova site.  :o

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« Reply #239 on: February 18, 2019, 10:45:34 PM »