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Re: Amazon HQ2 in LIC? Yay or Nay?
« Reply #195 on: February 14, 2019, 11:07:16 PM »
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Google has managed to expand again and again without panhandling in the streets. maybe Amazon could have learned from that.
I can't believe I actually agree with dssjh. :o

This is not true. Google got millions in tax breaks when they first built in 2014. And it was a much smaller than amazon were planning.

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Re: Amazon HQ2 in LIC? Yay or Nay?
« Reply #196 on: February 14, 2019, 11:26:37 PM »


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« Reply #198 on: February 15, 2019, 07:38:13 AM »
I have very little interest in Politics but for those that have a lot of interest and knowledge can Mr. Gianaris and Mr. Van Bramer be reelected considering that the majority supported Amazon?  Also, Toddg mentioned in a past message that if Amazon walked the Democratic control of the New York State Senate could be short lived so can the Republicans get back control of the Senate based on this one incident?  Just wondering.   

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Re: Amazon HQ2 in LIC? Yay or Nay?
« Reply #199 on: February 15, 2019, 07:54:17 AM »
Idiot of the year award goes to...

https://nypost.com/2019/02/14/this-is-the-man-who-delivered-the-death-blow-to-amazon-deal/?utm_campaign=iosapp&utm_source=pasteboard_app

I find the most inexcusable thing that he never even sat down and met with them. Instead he went on Fox News! Well, I hope he enjoyed his 15 minutes of fame.

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Re: Amazon HQ2 in LIC? Yay or Nay?
« Reply #201 on: February 15, 2019, 09:23:54 AM »
http://fortune.com/2019/02/14/amazon-doesnt-pay-federal-taxes-2019/

It appears to me that many billion dollar businesses, from Apple to Amazon to Trump, have creatively worked out methods to pay zero tax.

Changing the business tax laws is the only solution for that...

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« Reply #202 on: February 15, 2019, 10:03:25 AM »
http://fortune.com/2019/02/14/amazon-doesnt-pay-federal-taxes-2019/

It appears to me that many billion dollar businesses, from Apple to Amazon to Trump, have creatively worked out methods to pay zero tax.

Changing the business tax laws is the only solution for that...

Changing the corporate tax laws will not get them to pay more money. They are multinational. They have many creative accountants and lawyers who move the money to other countries who give them tax breaks. It is a shell game.

We need to substantially raise the Capital Gains Tax. People with jobs pay taxes. People who invest pay much less taxes. (percentage wise) There are too many lobbyists who influence the lawmakers. 

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Re: Amazon HQ2 in LIC? Yay or Nay?
« Reply #203 on: February 15, 2019, 10:25:56 AM »
 How come we are talking about Michael Gianaris and Jimmy VanBramer as the leads on the opposition to Amazon but the national news has AOC as being all over it?

Also it looks like NYC dodged a bullet here with Amazon as community members who did not even want to negotiate on anything but just pulled the plug, took toys/wallet and walked. Buh bye! And welcome to the next business that can work with its neighbors in more respectable way to use this waterfront property in this great city to the best potential of all Queens residents and NYCers.
They will be most welcome.

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« Reply #204 on: February 15, 2019, 10:39:07 AM »
How come we are talking about Michael Gianaris and Jimmy VanBramer as the leads on the opposition to Amazon but the national news has AOC as being all over it?

Also it looks like NYC dodged a bullet here with Amazon as community members who did not even want to negotiate on anything but just pulled the plug, took toys/wallet and walked. Buh bye! And welcome to the next business that can work with its neighbors in more respectable way to use this waterfront property in this great city to the best potential of all Queens residents and NYCers.
They will be most welcome.

Maybe it is an ageist issue. Amazon wants it all or we leave. We do not talk to you, we want it all. The ultimate Millenial corporation.

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Re: Amazon HQ2 in LIC? Yay or Nay?
« Reply #205 on: February 15, 2019, 11:20:59 AM »
http://fortune.com/2019/02/14/amazon-doesnt-pay-federal-taxes-2019/

It appears to me that many billion dollar businesses, from Apple to Amazon to Trump, have creatively worked out methods to pay zero tax.

Changing the business tax laws is the only solution for that...

Changing the corporate tax laws will not get them to pay more money. They are multinational. They have many creative accountants and lawyers who move the money to other countries who give them tax breaks. It is a shell game.

We need to substantially raise the Capital Gains Tax. People with jobs pay taxes. People who invest pay much less taxes. (percentage wise) There are too many lobbyists who influence the lawmakers.

Fine, then if that's the way to make it fair, great. 

I am observing that every system, from taxes to healthcare to following the will of the majority appears to be broken...

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Re: Amazon HQ2 in LIC? Yay or Nay?
« Reply #206 on: February 15, 2019, 11:26:03 AM »
How come we are talking about Michael Gianaris and Jimmy VanBramer as the leads on the opposition to Amazon but the national news has AOC as being all over it?

Also it looks like NYC dodged a bullet here with Amazon as community members who did not even want to negotiate on anything but just pulled the plug, took toys/wallet and walked. Buh bye! And welcome to the next business that can work with its neighbors in more respectable way to use this waterfront property in this great city to the best potential of all Queens residents and NYCers.
They will be most welcome.

Maybe it is an ageist issue. Amazon wants it all or we leave. We do not talk to you, we want it all. The ultimate Millenial corporation.


Maybe it is an ageist thing.  Maybe the loss of power by the older generation to the younger tech savvy one, ain't gonna be easy.


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Re: Amazon HQ2 in LIC? Yay or Nay?
« Reply #207 on: February 15, 2019, 12:16:16 PM »
How come we are talking about Michael Gianaris and Jimmy VanBramer as the leads on the opposition to Amazon but the national news has AOC as being all over it?

Also it looks like NYC dodged a bullet here with Amazon as community members who did not even want to negotiate on anything but just pulled the plug, took toys/wallet and walked. Buh bye! And welcome to the next business that can work with its neighbors in more respectable way to use this waterfront property in this great city to the best potential of all Queens residents and NYCers.
They will be most welcome.

Maybe it is an ageist issue. Amazon wants it all or we leave. We do not talk to you, we want it all. The ultimate Millenial corporation.


Maybe it is an ageist thing.  Maybe the loss of power by the older generation to the younger tech savvy one, ain't gonna be easy.
Fair assessment. Guessing you're 27, maybe 28. You've got three years left before obsolescence. These shifts are accelerating

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Re: Amazon HQ2 in LIC? Yay or Nay?
« Reply #208 on: February 15, 2019, 12:17:21 PM »
Colbert on Twitter:

  "I'll give you this Amazon: Telling people you're going to Queens and then bailing is one thing New Yorkers can relate to."


Ocasio-Cortez via Twitter:

"Yeah I’m laughing @ this. Amazon was not coming to my Congressional district, had no concentrated outreach to us that I’m aware of, yet w/ no effort I defeated the richest man in the world? Doesn’t add up. Story that’s not being told: the local community organized to reject it."

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Re: Amazon HQ2 in LIC? Yay or Nay?
« Reply #209 on: February 15, 2019, 12:20:37 PM »
How come we are talking about Michael Gianaris and Jimmy VanBramer as the leads on the opposition to Amazon but the national news has AOC as being all over it?

Also it looks like NYC dodged a bullet here with Amazon as community members who did not even want to negotiate on anything but just pulled the plug, took toys/wallet and walked. Buh bye! And welcome to the next business that can work with its neighbors in more respectable way to use this waterfront property in this great city to the best potential of all Queens residents and NYCers.
They will be most welcome.

Maybe it is an ageist issue. Amazon wants it all or we leave. We do not talk to you, we want it all. The ultimate Millenial corporation.


Maybe it is an ageist thing.  Maybe the loss of power by the older generation to the younger tech savvy one, ain't gonna be easy.
Fair assessment. Guessing you're 27, maybe 28. You've got three years left before obsolescence. These shifts are accelerating

 "Never trust anyone over 30" Hippy logic.

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Re: Amazon HQ2 in LIC? Yay or Nay?
« Reply #209 on: February 15, 2019, 12:20:37 PM »