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Offline KDGHP

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Re: Empty store fronts
« Reply #45 on: January 10, 2019, 01:35:20 PM »


Have you noticed that other specialized bakeries and cafes, including Lety's and Espresso 77 seem to be thriving? People gravitate towards more community oriented businesses. It doesn't surprise me that Dunkin didn't fare well, especially since there are two others on Roosevelt (doing mighty fine biz I might add).

That is true but when someone tries to get a mainstream store, like Trader Joes or Fairway, the agents see that a Dunkin Doughnuts closed on 37th ave. They will not notice that Lety's is doing well.

I don't like DD but I saw it as mainstream store which I would encourage but others seem hostile to.
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Ha - what I would give for a TJ's or Wegmans in the vicinity. Not on 37th Ave, but maybe on Northern? Brooklyn Navy Yard is getting a Wegmans, so who knows.

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Re: Empty store fronts
« Reply #46 on: January 10, 2019, 02:37:54 PM »
5. A Bookstore - We need a bookstore desperately, including books in various languages to serve the various communities

We have El Barco De Papel on 80th St just south of Roosevelt. They have books in at least 2 languages, check it out sometime!

Yes, agree that store is a neighborhood treasure that it took me too long to visit. A great spot.

Also, the last time I was in Kew & Willow Books in Kew Gardens, the owner mentioned that they were considering opening a second location, possibly in Jackson Heights since they've noticed a steady stream of customers visiting their store who live here.

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Re: Empty store fronts
« Reply #47 on: January 10, 2019, 02:40:31 PM »


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Ha - what I would give for a TJ's or Wegmans in the vicinity. Not on 37th Ave, but maybe on Northern? Brooklyn Navy Yard is getting a Wegmans, so who knows.

Maybe the new Amazon complex will encourage a little more interesting development along Northern Blvd instead of dozens of car dealerships.

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Re: Empty store fronts
« Reply #48 on: January 10, 2019, 04:46:01 PM »


Dunkin Doughnuts is closing on 37th ave and 75th street. Can you imagine, JH can not even support a DD.

There's a Dunkin across from the subway at 74th, another one on Roosevelt and 81st and one on Northern just west of Jax Inn. JH can support three locations, just not four.

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Re: Empty store fronts
« Reply #49 on: January 10, 2019, 05:31:32 PM »
I also heard that Appetiotto on 37th Avenue is for sale. I don't know if someone will continue the same business after it sells.

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« Reply #50 on: January 10, 2019, 05:39:53 PM »
I also heard that Appetiotto on 37th Avenue is for sale. I don't know if someone will continue the same business after it sells.

oh, no. i was so happy when that opened, long after the loss of Gourmet Fantasy Food. that's the food of my people, and it's been nice to have it so close.

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Re: Empty store fronts
« Reply #51 on: January 10, 2019, 08:48:38 PM »
I'd like to see a Reginald Perrin Grot Shop

https://youtu.be/fH-E6J5TJTY

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Re: Empty store fronts
« Reply #52 on: January 13, 2019, 08:50:28 AM »
slightly out of area, but i had to do an errand in Astoria that required a short walk up Steinway. Between Broadway and 30th ave (two blocks), there were 22 vacant stores, including the two largest, and two former banks. also, noticed three "going out of business" signs. this really is a pandemic in nyc.

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« Reply #53 on: January 13, 2019, 10:06:41 AM »
slightly out of area, but i had to do an errand in Astoria that required a short walk up Steinway. Between Broadway and 30th ave (two blocks), there were 22 vacant stores, including the two largest, and two former banks. also, noticed three "going out of business" signs. this really is a pandemic in nyc.

Wow, that's a lot. I'm often in Astoria and it seems there are really very few vacant storefronts between 30th Ave between Steinway and the N/W station at 30th Ave and 31st St. The businesses are quite a bit more upscale (mostly restaurants and cafes and markets) on 30th Ave than they are on Steinway. Steinway seems to have a lot of the lower end clothing stores, etc.

I wonder if it's just location (Steinway vs. 30th Ave) or if the LL's on Steinway are trying to charge too much in rent.


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« Reply #54 on: January 13, 2019, 11:40:34 AM »
KDGHP--are you new to JH? Because it's been a long-standing lament re: the empty storefronts and the seeming impossibility of small businesses making a go of it here. The commercial rents are astronomical--I think someone posted that they are higher than in places like Park Slope. It's a larger problem, of course, with everyone getting everything delivered by Amazon, Fresh Direct, etc. and retail stores going under: Toys R Us, Lord and Taylor's flagship store, etc.

The list you posted of businesses you'd like to see come to 37th sounds great but totally unrealistic judging by what actually manages to open here. When the Bruson Building had to be rebuilt due to the big fire, there were community town hall meetings where residents tried to influence what kinds of businesses would wind up in the new building. I recall hearing a rumor there might be a gourmet food market, for example.

In the end yes, we did get two new restaurants there, which is great--especially Romeo's which offers the area something different-- but I don't understand why the largest storefront is devoted to a home care business. Why does a business like that pay for a storefront location? It's a large space--I've never walked by during business hours, but is it filled with employees and clients meeting about home care arrangements? It seems so odd to have that business in that space--have you ever seen a storefront home care business anywhere else in NYC?

Then there is a bank and the same convenience store that used to operate there--one of many convenience stores along the avenue. Again, it's a larger issue that just 37th Ave in JH. Businesses close and then the storefront remains empty for years, I guess serving as a tax write-off to the landlord. Maybe the only way to improve the situation is to get rid of the tax incentives that may make it more profitable to keep the spaces empty than to rent them.

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Re: Empty store fronts
« Reply #55 on: January 13, 2019, 11:59:17 AM »
slightly out of area, but i had to do an errand in Astoria that required a short walk up Steinway. Between Broadway and 30th ave (two blocks), there were 22 vacant stores, including the two largest, and two former banks. also, noticed three "going out of business" signs. this really is a pandemic in nyc.

Wow, that's a lot. I'm often in Astoria and it seems there are really very few vacant storefronts between 30th Ave between Steinway and the N/W station at 30th Ave and 31st St. The businesses are quite a bit more upscale (mostly restaurants and cafes and markets) on 30th Ave than they are on Steinway. Steinway seems to have a lot of the lower end clothing stores, etc.

I wonder if it's just location (Steinway vs. 30th Ave) or if the LL's on Steinway are trying to charge too much in rent.

the lower end clothing stores seem to be the biggest casualties. the huge Dr. Jays, which was something like a Conway at one point, is gone, too. restaurants, other than chains, are also dead in the water there.

you're right about 30th, though. i circled back down that avenue to pick up a couple of things i needed and it was humming with activity.

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Re: Empty store fronts
« Reply #56 on: January 13, 2019, 12:01:58 PM »

but I don't understand why the largest storefront is devoted to a home care business. Why does a business like that pay for a storefront location? It's a large space--I've never walked by during business hours, but is it filled with employees and clients meeting about home care arrangements? It seems so odd to have that business in that space--have you ever seen a storefront home care business anywhere else in NYC?


I have seen that business in action during the day. It is not a normal health care agency like Visiting Nurse. They entice people into thinking that they will make money taking care of people. They charge for a course and then try to hook people up with clients. I suppose it also attracts abusers who will charge medicare and medicaid for taking care of their relatives and friends.  If it were a normal agency, as you said, it would not be in a storefront. And, it would not have to cover the windows as it did after a while. It might as well be a bookie.

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« Reply #57 on: January 13, 2019, 01:16:29 PM »
wow. i had no idea, but the sleaze is not really surprising, given the huge come-on signs in the window. those places are the worst.

my mom had home aides through visiting nurse and catholic charities, and catholic charities occasionally had shift-fillers from one of those places. the worst care imaginable.

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Re: Empty store fronts
« Reply #58 on: January 13, 2019, 01:24:11 PM »
I guess it's another example that would seem to support the notion that there may be a lot of businesses here that are less than legit, which is how they manage to stay afloat when real businesses can't.

I had no idea what that business was doing there, so thanks for the illuminating commentary.

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Re: Empty store fronts
« Reply #59 on: January 13, 2019, 05:34:31 PM »
KDGHP--are you new to JH?

New-ish in that I’ve been here about 2+ years, but I’m a NYC native. No transplant here. :)

While I appreciate that some of these ideas seem unrealistic, keep in mind that they’re a wishlist, so I know that some (or none) of these things may come to fruition. I DO think there’s a real market for some of these and would see success. It only takes one entrepreneur to spark the change.

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Re: Empty store fronts
« Reply #59 on: January 13, 2019, 05:34:31 PM »