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Title: Hudson Yards opens this Friday, March 15, 2019
Post by: Shelby2 on March 11, 2019, 09:48:16 PM
Not exactly Jackson Heights news, but the 7 train does go directly there!

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/First-Phase-Hudson-Yards-Project-New-York-Real-Estate-Development-Project-506995731.html
Title: Re: Hudson Yards opens this Friday, March 15, 2019
Post by: abcdefghijk on March 11, 2019, 10:44:37 PM
Cool.  It is exciting when NYC creates things on such a massive scale. Very curious to see it.
It's part of what makes living here special. The grandeur.
Title: Re: Hudson Yards opens this Friday, March 15, 2019
Post by: wk067781 on March 12, 2019, 05:06:08 PM
Good thing the Hudson yard bound 7 is skipping all local stops this weekend. I'm shocked.
Title: Re: Hudson Yards opens this Friday, March 15, 2019
Post by: JK resident on March 12, 2019, 05:47:54 PM
Good luck on trying to get a seat at a restaurant.
Title: Re: Hudson Yards opens this Friday, March 15, 2019
Post by: dssjh on March 12, 2019, 09:33:05 PM
Good luck on trying to get a seat at a restaurant.

well, they have about 200 of them. seriously. from bargain basement to high-end. the food looks really good.
Title: Re: Hudson Yards opens this Friday, March 15, 2019
Post by: itsit on March 13, 2019, 10:13:42 PM
 Am not sure New Yorkers are really going to go to this. Seems like a Fishermans Wharf or Fanieul Hall or even the newly
reconstituted South Street seaport as an area that few natives frequent. Loved the High Line initially but the crowds made
that not so fun anymore. This seems like the same direction but will probably check it out once. Could not get the free
preview tours no matter what I tried online for what that was worth.
Title: Re: Hudson Yards opens this Friday, March 15, 2019
Post by: dssjh on March 13, 2019, 11:14:41 PM
you may be right. i used to go to South Street a lot when it was in its unvarnished state -- restaurants like Sloppy Louie's and Carmine's (no relation to the current chain) served great food and offered a vibe you couldn't get anywhere else. and the bars serving large beers in those oversize styrofoam cups you could take to go before Giuliani time kicked in....sigh.

but the shopping mall that replaced it? the suburbs do it better.

the overall concept of Hudson Yards has its merits -- we haven't really had a whole new neighborhood built from the ground up since Battery Park City. and it's certainly better use of that land than the stadium  Bloomberg wanted to build. but i don't think i'll spend a lot of time there, either. certainly won't know any of the new residents, i'm guessing (NY1 did a report today on one building, with apartments starting at four million and going up to 32 million), but we'll see how it shakes out.
Title: Re: Hudson Yards opens this Friday, March 15, 2019
Post by: abcdefghijk on March 14, 2019, 08:52:45 AM
What is astonishing is the engineering feat of decking over the railway yards.

It's always impressive what this city can do.

Plus the Vessel (public structure) and the "Shed" Performing Center will be a true positive addition to New York City. 

I love the excitement of what NYC offers. Plus...it's Spring! The perfect time to explore...
Title: Re: Hudson Yards opens this Friday, March 15, 2019
Post by: dssjh on March 14, 2019, 03:04:15 PM
yes. on all fronts. and you  know i'm a snippy {rhymes with witch}.

What is astonishing is the engineering feat of decking over the railway yards.

It's always impressive what this city can do.

Plus the Vessel (public structure) and the "Shed" Performing Center will be a true positive addition to New York City. 

I love the excitement of what NYC offers. Plus...it's Spring! The perfect time to explore...
Title: Re: Hudson Yards opens this Friday, March 15, 2019
Post by: toddg on March 14, 2019, 03:48:41 PM
Here's a preview of one of the big food attractions, Mercado Little Spain (https://ny.eater.com/2019/3/14/18263795/mercado-little-spain-photos-inside-hudson-yards-jose-andres-ferran-albert-adria)
Title: Re: Hudson Yards opens this Friday, March 15, 2019
Post by: Paul11372 on March 14, 2019, 04:14:19 PM
Here's a preview of one of the big food attractions, Mercado Little Spain (https://ny.eater.com/2019/3/14/18263795/mercado-little-spain-photos-inside-hudson-yards-jose-andres-ferran-albert-adria)

Good to see José Andrés making waves in NYC he did some real good in PR for those in need.



Title: Re: Hudson Yards opens this Friday, March 15, 2019
Post by: dssjh on March 14, 2019, 07:24:58 PM
Here's a preview of one of the big food attractions, Mercado Little Spain (https://ny.eater.com/2019/3/14/18263795/mercado-little-spain-photos-inside-hudson-yards-jose-andres-ferran-albert-adria)

Good to see José Andrés making waves in NYC he did some real good in PR for those in need.

since we don't have a like button, "like."

he did great work. and he also did the same for gov't workers during the shutdown. a good man. and a good chef.
Title: Re: Hudson Yards opens this Friday, March 15, 2019
Post by: JHALUM on March 15, 2019, 10:15:02 AM
I think this is great and why NY is special.  They did however receive six billion dollars in incentives and tax breaks but I think it  is a good investment for the city.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/09/nyregion/hudson-yards-new-york-tax-breaks.html

Title: Re: Hudson Yards opens this Friday, March 15, 2019
Post by: Di_11372 on March 19, 2019, 06:26:00 AM
I visited. what I did like about it was that I felt I wasn't in NYC, there is a feeling of Singapore or Hong Kong about it....
Title: Re: Hudson Yards opens this Friday, March 15, 2019
Post by: jh35 on March 19, 2019, 09:24:46 AM
I visited. what I did like about it was that I felt I wasn't in NYC, there is a feeling of Singapore or Hong Kong about it....

https://gizmodo.com/nycs-new-tourist-trap-claims-the-rights-to-every-photo-1833387084 (https://gizmodo.com/nycs-new-tourist-trap-claims-the-rights-to-every-photo-1833387084)

New York City’s newest luxury neighborhood, Hudson Yards, officially opened on Friday and visitors are already scrambling to photograph or mock its gilded pinecone landmark structure dubbed the Vessel.

But, as Gothamist points out, Hudson Yards seemingly claims rights to all such photos of the $200-million giant honeycomb floating above an active train yard, so long as they’re taken in and around the Vessel.

The Gothamist highlights two clauses in the Hudson Yards Terms & Conditions, which state that Hudson Yards has the right and license to use any content related to the structure:

MY NAME AND LIKENESS. If I appear in, create, upload, post, or send any photographs, audio recordings, or video footage depicting or relating to the Vessel, I grant to Company the unrestricted, worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual right and license (with the right to transfer or sublicense) to use my name, likeness, voice, and all other aspects of my persona for the purpose of operating, developing, providing, promoting, advertising, and improving the Vessel or any other products or services provided by Company or its sublicensees (in either case, now known or later developed)....

MY CONTENT. If I create, upload, post or send any photographs, audio recordings, or video footage depicting or relating to the Vessel, I grant to Company and its affiliates the irrevocable, unrestricted, worldwide, perpetual, royalty-free, sublicensable, and transferable right and license to use, display, reproduce, perform, modify, transmit, publish, and distribute such photographs, audio recordings, or video footage for any purpose whatsoever in any and all media...


According to the terms and conditions, visitors agree to these clauses when they enter the Vessel.

Mickey Osterreicher, general counsel for the National Press Photographers Association told Gothamist that these terms and conditions don’t mean that Hudson Yards owns visitors’ content, but the organization is allowed “broad license” to use the content how it would like without visitors’ consent. And it means visitors can’t use their Vessel content commercially, according to Osterreicher’s reading.
Title: Re: Hudson Yards opens this Friday, March 15, 2019
Post by: Shelby2 on March 19, 2019, 11:28:06 AM
That’s really obnoxious. I wonder if it will stand up in court when someone challenges it. Otherwise it’s a slippery slope and takes income away from photographers who shoot in iconic locations. What if every monument, public artwork, etc. starts having this clause?
Title: Re: Hudson Yards opens this Friday, March 15, 2019
Post by: abcdefghijk on March 19, 2019, 11:36:51 AM
From what I gather by reading the legalese HUDSON YARDS gets to use any photos etc you take of the Vessel.

But that doesn't appear to mean that a photographer can't also use the photos for whatever purpose.

The legalese appears to grant non exclusive use by Hudson Yards. Right?

Thus if AMAZON wants to shoot someone receiving an AMAZON parcel in the Vessel, I guess both AMAZON and Hudson Yards can use that material. Something that AMAZON might be happy about...

Title: Re: Hudson Yards opens this Friday, March 15, 2019
Post by: Shelby2 on March 19, 2019, 12:08:31 PM
The policy apparently only applies to people who have signed up for a timed ticket to enter the Vessel.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-18/after-public-outcry-a-re-written-photo-policy-for-hudson-yards-vessel

So the Amazon package delivery example doesn’t apply.
Title: Re: Hudson Yards opens this Friday, March 15, 2019
Post by: abcdefghijk on March 19, 2019, 12:40:21 PM
The policy apparently only applies to people who have signed up for a timed ticket to enter the Vessel.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-18/after-public-outcry-a-re-written-photo-policy-for-hudson-yards-vessel

So the Amazon package delivery example doesn’t apply.

I may still get an online tix and arrange to have my AMAZON package delivered there...  :D
Title: Re: Hudson Yards opens this Friday, March 15, 2019
Post by: Chingwa on March 24, 2019, 08:42:16 PM
Incredibly arrogant overreach by this company... disgusting actually.  This flies in the face of established copyright law and wouldn't have a chance in hell of holding up in court if it weren't for the special "contract" you agree to when reserving the tickets.

Personally I think buildings should have some respect for the surrounding architecture, and not turn NYC into a vapid open air modern art gallery.  Same goes for "The Oculus".  We're at the point where building technology can do anything the designer envisions.  With power comes responsibility.