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Title: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: annienny on August 10, 2017, 11:28:54 AM
Where do you all go to get a good, fresh bagel? Other than the Farmers' Market, where do you go to get a fresh loaf of bread?
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: homeowner on August 10, 2017, 02:00:13 PM
I assume you want something very local - in that case the bagel place on Northern and 87th is pretty decent...there's also Variety on Northern and 80th (?) and of course Cannelle fro bread and all things pastry.
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: Shelby2 on August 10, 2017, 03:10:54 PM
One time I bought bread from the small Russian market near 79th and 37th. I believe they said their bread is delivered daily from Brooklyn. You could go in and inquire.

Sometimes I buy Bread Alone bread from the Downtown Natural Market but I don't know how often they get deliveries. If they get deliveries certain days of the week, perhaps you could time your bread buying to those delivery days.
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: Dodger on August 10, 2017, 05:26:48 PM
I like the bagel place a little further out on Northern, between 89th and 90th: Bagel House.

Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: MrPlaza on August 10, 2017, 06:38:42 PM
One time I bought bread from the small Russian market near 79th and 37th. I believe they said their bread is delivered daily from Brooklyn. You could go in and inquire.

Sometimes I buy Bread Alone bread from the Downtown Natural Market but I don't know how often they get deliveries. If they get deliveries certain days of the week, perhaps you could time your bread buying to those delivery days.
We recently started buying Bread Alone (after a trip upstate). Anyone know if they sell at the Foodtown on 37th Ave.?
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: Shelby2 on August 10, 2017, 06:49:24 PM
Not sure, but I have also seen it at Lemon Farm, corner of 78th and 37th.
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: dssjh on August 10, 2017, 09:41:35 PM
Foodtown does indeed sell Bread Alone bread. it's on the shelves surrounding the store brand rolls in those plastic bins. for a while, they were also selling their bagels, but haven't seen those for a while.

i also like the ryes and pumpernickels from Appetito - the Russian deli. always fresh and interesting.
One time I bought bread from the small Russian market near 79th and 37th. I believe they said their bread is delivered daily from Brooklyn. You could go in and inquire.

Sometimes I buy Bread Alone bread from the Downtown Natural Market but I don't know how often they get deliveries. If they get deliveries certain days of the week, perhaps you could time your bread buying to those delivery days.
We recently started buying Bread Alone (after a trip upstate). Anyone know if they sell at the Foodtown on 37th Ave.?
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: fillmorep on August 12, 2017, 10:32:51 AM
There is an ambitious local baker who sets up on Thursday evenings at the church on 34th where you pick up the CSA offerings. Her bread looks very good. Check CSA for hours. Also, Hawthorne Farms has just started at the farmer's market and their break looks to be a cut above that offered by Hot Kitchen or Francesca's.
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: hagsrus on August 12, 2017, 05:05:55 PM
Tradefair bakes on premises. We don't eat much bread but they do a very nice raisin bread. In theory (and often advertised) also cinnamon swirl, but they never seem to have it. The baker guy doesn't seem to know about it.

Dunkin Donuts do acceptable bagels.
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: dssjh on August 12, 2017, 05:50:58 PM
if you mean food dynasty, can't set foot in there since they busted the union by locking out employees with no notice some years ago - the giant rat outside ,remember?

Mr. Haque, who owns the chain under different shell corp names, has done the same thing as other locations, so....i'd dumpster dive first.

Tradefair bakes on premises. We don't eat much bread but they do a very nice raisin bread. In theory (and often advertised) also cinnamon swirl, but they never seem to have it. The baker guy doesn't seem to know about it.

Dunkin Donuts do acceptable bagels.
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: hagsrus on August 12, 2017, 07:59:07 PM
No, Tradefair near 89th Street.
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: Octavio Hernandez on August 14, 2017, 11:54:11 AM
I just had Cannelle Patisserie's aptly named "Rustic Loaf", which I highly recommend...
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: the80s on August 14, 2017, 12:24:53 PM
I know this thread began with a request for bread places other than the farmers' market, but I just tried a sourdough from Hawthorne Farm (the new bakery vendor at the market, mentioned above) and it was really perfectly executed and delicious.

Highly recommended! (Perfect for toast topped with my farmers' market heirloom tomatoes and cheese.)

And yes, all the breads from Canelle are terrific, in particular the baguette.
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: dssjh on August 14, 2017, 02:37:21 PM
the Hawthorne sourdough is excellent - but you need to eat it really quickly to avoid having it dry out. even 24 hours was a little much on the sliced half loaf i bought
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: annienny on August 16, 2017, 09:00:18 PM
Thanks so much for all of your responses!
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: Ecrivain on August 16, 2017, 10:59:07 PM
I'm surprised nobody mentioned Juju's for bagels. Nice little cafe with darn good bagels and bialys. On 76th St. They'll sell you a dozen. Check them out on Yelp, very popular.
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: MrPlaza on August 17, 2017, 12:34:43 PM
I'm surprised nobody mentioned Juju's for bagels. Nice little cafe with darn good bagels and bialys. On 76th St. They'll sell you a dozen. Check them out on Yelp, very popular.
Most of the people whose opinions have been shared here seem to paint the picture of delicious food but only satisfactory bagels.
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: Shelby2 on September 24, 2017, 07:23:54 PM
Gothamist's best places for fresh bread in NYC: http://gothamist.com/2017/08/24/best_bread_2017_nyc.php

Sadly, they missed Cannelle, but they did mention a place in Forest Hills and one in Flushing.
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: stevn on September 24, 2017, 09:23:46 PM
I'm surprised nobody mentioned Juju's for bagels. Nice little cafe with darn good bagels and bialys. On 76th St. They'll sell you a dozen. Check them out on Yelp, very popular.
Most of the people whose opinions have been shared here seem to paint the picture of delicious food but only satisfactory bagels.

Maybe you should try for yourself. While Sami may not make them from scratch, the bagels and bialys are very good.
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: hfm on September 28, 2017, 10:25:48 PM
I'm surprised nobody mentioned Juju's for bagels. Nice little cafe with darn good bagels and bialys. On 76th St. They'll sell you a dozen. Check them out on Yelp, very popular.
Most of the people whose opinions have been shared here seem to paint the picture of delicious food but only satisfactory bagels.

Maybe you should try for yourself. While Sami may not make them from scratch, the bagels and bialys are very good.

They aren't the correct density and taste to be in the running for any awards, but they're good enough.
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: dssjh on September 28, 2017, 11:31:14 PM
they're on par with the ones at Foodtown. i really like Sami's actual dishes, but whoever makes these needs to go back to bagel school.
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: hfm on September 30, 2017, 07:58:49 PM
they're on par with the ones at Foodtown. i really like Sami's actual dishes, but whoever makes these needs to go back to bagel school.

I actually think the ones you can get a Foodtown are slightly better. Sami makes a mean tuna though. Man of his other dishes are great as well. The bagels are truly "good enough".
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: Bel84 on October 02, 2017, 08:41:10 PM
Who is Sami?
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: Shelby2 on October 02, 2017, 09:10:47 PM
Who is Sami?

Sami owns Juju's. https://www.yelp.com/biz/jujus-bagels-cafe-jackson-heights
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: N00b on October 03, 2017, 11:24:25 AM
Canelles rustic baguette is one of the better baguettes in NYC period. 
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: missmarty on October 16, 2017, 04:12:06 PM
Would love if Brooklyn Bagel moved here. There are three now is Astoria.
If you're looking for Italian bread, we have an old bakery just less than a block off Roosevelt, towards 37th.
The family has been there forever.
 
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: amsci on October 16, 2017, 04:41:20 PM
Cool.. what's the cross street? Thanks in advance. :)

If you're looking for Italian bread, we have an old bakery just less than a block off Roosevelt, towards 37th.
The family has been there forever.
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: Kim Joseph on February 21, 2019, 10:57:32 PM
There is an ambitious local baker who sets up on Thursday evenings at the church on 34th where you pick up the CSA offerings. Her bread looks very good. Check CSA for hours. Also, Hawthorne Farms has just started at the farmer's market and their break looks to be a cut above that offered by Hot Kitchen or Francesca's.

That ambitious baker is me! Thank you so much!
Hello! Kim Joseph here! Little Wildbranch Bakery!
If anyone is looking for fresh sourdough bread, I'm your bread woman! My bread keeps incredibly well for 7 days, as any true sourdough should!
Every week I bake 2 types of bread- plain multigrain and baker's choice (flavors according to whats in season and where my creativity takes me). I tend to lean more towards ancient grains and whole grains, so here is where you will find nourishing hearty whole grain crusty loaves, all baked after hours in the pizza oven at The Queensboro!
I am at the Queensboro on Thursday evenings from 5-8 pm for bread pick ups. Most of the bread is by order to avoid waste, but I do try to bake extras, which go quickly.
I take orders weekly until 5 pm on Tuesdays, because that is when I make the dough.
You can find my weekly bread and most up to date info on Instagram and Fb, and of course my website at https://www.littlewildbranchbakery.com/
You may also text me your orders at 347 553-7708
Wishing everyone a lovely weekend.
Warmly,
Kim Joseph
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: idahomie on February 25, 2019, 03:34:05 PM
There is an ambitious local baker who sets up on Thursday evenings at the church on 34th where you pick up the CSA offerings. Her bread looks very good. Check CSA for hours. Also, Hawthorne Farms has just started at the farmer's market and their break looks to be a cut above that offered by Hot Kitchen or Francesca's.

That ambitious baker is me! Thank you so much!
Hello! Kim Joseph here! Little Wildbranch Bakery!
If anyone is looking for fresh sourdough bread, I'm your bread woman! My bread keeps incredibly well for 7 days, as any true sourdough should!
Every week I bake 2 types of bread- plain multigrain and baker's choice (flavors according to whats in season and where my creativity takes me). I tend to lean more towards ancient grains and whole grains, so here is where you will find nourishing hearty whole grain crusty loaves, all baked after hours in the pizza oven at The Queensboro!
I am at the Queensboro on Thursday evenings from 5-8 pm for bread pick ups. Most of the bread is by order to avoid waste, but I do try to bake extras, which go quickly.
I take orders weekly until 5 pm on Tuesdays, because that is when I make the dough.
You can find my weekly bread and most up to date info on Instagram and Fb, and of course my website at https://www.littlewildbranchbakery.com/
You may also text me your orders at 347 553-7708
Wishing everyone a lovely weekend.
Warmly,
Kim Joseph

Just wanted to chime in and rave about Kim's bread. I have gotten several loaves over the last three weeks, and am picking up a baker's choice loaf (Smoky Chili Tarragon) this Thursday. Each loaf has been phenomenal. My partner, a sourdough addict who was born and raised in the SF area, considers Kim's sourdough the best he's had. And I've had a number of dinner guests who have also gone for seconds and thirds of Kim's bread.
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: hum@njukebox1 on February 25, 2019, 10:31:17 PM
I just looked at the prices.  Do people really buy $16 loaves of bread?  I've never heard of such a thing.  But it does look delicious. 
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: Susan_14 on February 25, 2019, 10:54:39 PM
We like the bagels from Juju's and, also from Lety's Bakery on 37th Ave.
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: rabucat on February 25, 2019, 11:32:34 PM
I just looked at the prices.  Do people really buy $16 loaves of bread?  I've never heard of such a thing.  But it does look delicious.
You should come by the Queensboro on a Thursday evening to see what the loaves look like.  My partner and I have been getting Kim's bread regularly since she's been offering it.  Her sourdough is gorgeous--beautiful crust, lovely uniform crumb, an amazing funk.  I'm obsessed with bread, and grew up in the Bay Area pulling hunks off of loaves in the car on the way home from Boudin, so I feel comfortable saying that I am fairly knowledgeable about sourdough.  My prior favorite bread in New York City was from Roberta's, and I've gotten half-decent bread at Balthazar and Sullivan Street Bakery, but really wasn't that psyched about any of them.  Sourdough is a special, alchemical bread, and I thought it maybe wasn't possible here.  But, apparently, in the right hands, it is!  I can honestly say that I look forward to our bread pick-up all week long.  It's THAT GOOD. 

As for the price, the "small" loaves are around 7 bucks.  But a small loaf is the size of a normal sourdough boule, which would generally go for about 7 bucks.  The medium and large loaves are huge, handsome, imposing, and sturdy enough to feed a veritable army.  I've seen plenty of the large-sized loaves from Grandaisy and Zaro's sell for $16 a loaf. These are GIANT loaves. 

Kim's prices are more than fair for the quality and consistency of the loaves, the inventiveness of her flavors, and the knowledge that your bread is literally made in situ in a wood-fired oven.  Order a small loaf, and see if you won't be salivating as you wait for the next e-mail alerting you to the coming week's offerings.
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: hum@njukebox1 on February 26, 2019, 10:30:47 AM
Are you certain I won't be disappointed as I was with the $7.00 eggs purchased at the Greenmarket?  A friend told me I'd never go back to buying eggs at the supermarket.  For the life of me........I couldn't tell the difference. 
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: JH3525 on February 26, 2019, 10:53:35 AM
Foodtown has organic eggs for $8.99 and I doubt if they taste any different then the eggs selling for $1.99. 
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: dssjh on February 26, 2019, 11:13:56 AM
they do.

but even if they didn't, i do like knowing the hens don't eat each others' fecal matter mixed into feed as they do in the factories where they live in cages the size of milk cartons.

i'm just weird that way.
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: JH3525 on February 26, 2019, 11:39:53 AM
dssjh:  I don't eat eggs but just happen to notice the high priced eggs last Thursday while I was in that aisle.  If I did eat eggs, I could easily afford the price and I would purchase them for the reasons you gave.  However, for those with low income they have no choice but the $1.99 eggs. 
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: JH3525 on February 26, 2019, 12:32:32 PM
dssjh:  I don't eat eggs but just happen to notice the high priced eggs last Thursday while I was in that aisle.  I don't eat eggs but if I did, I would also purchase the $8.99 organic eggs for the reason you mention but not everyone can afford this high price. 
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: dssjh on February 26, 2019, 12:33:52 PM
you raise a valid, and troubling, economic point. i know, from friends who have small farms in other parts of the country, that it does cost a lot to do things properly and humanely. but low income Americans are really left in the lurch when it comes to eating truly healthy.
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: Shelby2 on February 26, 2019, 12:57:20 PM
Downtown Natural Market on 37th Ave/84th St. has eggs at a really good price. If you buy two of the same kind, you get a deal, like two cartons for $5. I have been buying Barnyard's Best "cage free, all natural, no antibiotics, no hormones, no animal fat" large brown eggs. I'm sure they are not as pure as the ones from the greenmarket, but they are good for people on a budget. $2.50/dozen is a pretty good price.

Their website seems to be down but this is what they look like eggs (https://www.mercato.com/item/barnyard-cage-free-large-eggs-24-ounces/222610?variant=shb&utm_expid=186669092-35.R-_75mufTcKXri92d6qISQ.1&featuredStoreId=124&utm_source=google&gclid=Cj0KCQiA5NPjBRDDARIsAM9X1GI-gFQn_pgqgxQMi1lJ6H27JTchym2-Wts_XKCphQOVhZucwIFPWy0aArwHEALw_wcB)
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: Ecrivain on February 27, 2019, 06:55:54 PM
Washington Post: "Backyard eggs vs store bought: they taste the same"
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/03/egg-taste-test-says-no-di_n_599286.html

Also note expert quoted here:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/03/egg-taste-test-says-no-di_n_599286.html

Finally, I don't know of evidence that organic or free range eggs are healthier. On contrary, "the eggs are indistinguishable. When there is a difference, it's often the factory eggs that are safer."
http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2002334,00.html

And then there is this, which explains why in some depth:
https://blogs.umass.edu/natsci397a-eross/free-range-eggs-are-they-actually-a-healthier-option/

"The overall consensus of the research conducted on this topic states that the eggs produced in conventional cage systems are the “cleanest”, or most microbe free, and are therefore far less likely to have an impact on human health. Eggs produced in free-range systems tend to have higher counts of microbial growth on the shell surface, including specific strains of Salmonella and E. coli, among other harmful pathogens. . . The eggs coming from free-range production systems have a much higher incidence of microbial contamination than that of eggs coming from conventional cage production systems."

Now of course this leaves aside the important issue of minimizing cruelty. Although there are complexities here too, if you care about this then probably free range or pasture raised are best. I've seen such eggs at the farmer's market for $8/doz., which seems crazy compared with $2 eggs and $6 donated to a worthy charity.


Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: JHHD on February 27, 2019, 08:14:32 PM
Kim's bread is awesome and she is a neighborhood gem!

I was also underwhelmed by the eggs I recently bought at the greenmarket, but that might be because it is winter and the hens stay inside.  I often buy pasture raised eggs from Vital Farms and you can definitely see and taste the difference compared to conventional eggs, particularly in the often (but not always) bright orange yolk. When the hens forage outside and eat bugs and worms it really makes a difference.  Chickens are not vegetarians by nature.
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: Kim Joseph on March 02, 2019, 03:14:57 PM
I just looked at the prices.  Do people really buy $16 loaves of bread?  I've never heard of such a thing.  But it does look delicious.
Hi there!
I'd be happy to give you a sample if you'd like to try the bread first. Also, my multigrain sourdough is on the brunch menu at The Queensboro as the avocado toast if you'd like to try that!
The prices range from $6.50-$16, so there is a wide range. I'm sourcing high quality ingredients that are organic and local when available and always unbleached and non gmo.
The large loaf ($16) is ginormous, so I realize that it is pricey, but it's a lot of bread. Will feed a family of 3 for 2 weeks.
I'm here is you ever have any questions!
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: Kim Joseph on March 02, 2019, 03:26:58 PM
I just looked at the prices.  Do people really buy $16 loaves of bread?  I've never heard of such a thing.  But it does look delicious.
oh my! Richie! You've moved me to tears!
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Kim :D
You should come by the Queensboro on a Thursday evening to see what the loaves look like.  My partner and I have been getting Kim's bread regularly since she's been offering it.  Her sourdough is gorgeous--beautiful crust, lovely uniform crumb, an amazing funk.  I'm obsessed with bread, and grew up in the Bay Area pulling hunks off of loaves in the car on the way home from Boudin, so I feel comfortable saying that I am fairly knowledgeable about sourdough.  My prior favorite bread in New York City was from Roberta's, and I've gotten half-decent bread at Balthazar and Sullivan Street Bakery, but really wasn't that psyched about any of them.  Sourdough is a special, alchemical bread, and I thought it maybe wasn't possible here.  But, apparently, in the right hands, it is!  I can honestly say that I look forward to our bread pick-up all week long.  It's THAT GOOD. 

As for the price, the "small" loaves are around 7 bucks.  But a small loaf is the size of a normal sourdough boule, which would generally go for about 7 bucks.  The medium and large loaves are huge, handsome, imposing, and sturdy enough to feed a veritable army.  I've seen plenty of the large-sized loaves from Grandaisy and Zaro's sell for $16 a loaf. These are GIANT loaves. 

Kim's prices are more than fair for the quality and consistency of the loaves, the inventiveness of her flavors, and the knowledge that your bread is literally made in situ in a wood-fired oven.  Order a small loaf, and see if you won't be salivating as you wait for the next e-mail alerting you to the coming week's offerings.
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: hum@njukebox1 on March 02, 2019, 09:03:56 PM
Thank you for your offer.  One of these days I will break down and purchase a loaf.  As I said in my original message, it does look delicious.  I'm just a bit of a cheapskate.
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: Kim Joseph on March 04, 2019, 12:40:09 PM
Kim's bread is awesome and she is a neighborhood gem!

I was also underwhelmed by the eggs I recently bought at the greenmarket, but that might be because it is winter and the hens stay inside.  I often buy pasture raised eggs from Vital Farms and you can definitely see and taste the difference compared to conventional eggs, particularly in the often (but not always) bright orange yolk. When the hens forage outside and eat bugs and worms it really makes a difference.  Chickens are not vegetarians by nature.
Thank you so much for the kind and beautiful words!
Title: Re: Bagels & fresh bread
Post by: Kim Joseph on March 04, 2019, 12:42:07 PM
Thank you for your offer.  One of these days I will break down and purchase a loaf.  As I said in my original message, it does look delicious.  I'm just a bit of a cheapskate.
I understand completely! I look forward to meeting you!