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Title: Samudra
Post by: dssjh on November 02, 2013, 09:04:07 PM
the south Asian vegetarian place that replaced Himalayan hut has opened. just stopped in for a snack -- hoping to get the GF out in a day or two for a full meal -- but the idly and chat was very tasty, spicy as requested and the management could not be nicer. they also have more veggie curries and non-south Asian options than dosa delight or other local pure veggie places. i'm on their team already.
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: Chuckster on November 08, 2013, 12:37:35 PM
Here's a little background on Samudra.

From DNAinfo:

Hotel Worker Realizes Dream of Opening Jackson Heights Indian Restaurant (http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20131108/jackson-heights/hotel-worker-realizes-dream-of-opening-jackson-heights-indian-restaurant)
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: petegart on December 22, 2013, 08:46:44 PM
I finally had the chance to eat here this past weekend.  We both had the thali and it was really incredible!  Please give it a try because it is very satisfying to support a small business owner and the food is truly delicious!!!
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: jhlifer on December 23, 2013, 12:21:07 PM
My comment is not about the food.

My concern is that there is now a "space for rent" in the front of the restaurant, which I doubt would be viewed as legal by the department of buildings.  Why there needs to be a mini-store in a storefront, other than as a source of revenue, is beyond me.  It will further degrade our commercial strip with more "businesses" hawking items on our streets.  We already have enough of this.

Why can't our merchants (and the property owners) aim higher than this?  If the rent is too high then they should find another location, rather than relying on creating an illegal storefront in their restaurant to supplement their revenue. 

Personally, I vote with my dollar.  Perhaps some patrons can express their concerns about this business practice to the owner.  Again, this is attitude and approach by our merchants is very disheartening for our commercial district.  We need them to aim higher in Jackson Heights.
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: eddiestjohns on December 23, 2013, 09:54:31 PM
My comment is not about the food.

My concern is that there is now a "space for rent" in the front of the restaurant, which I doubt would be viewed as legal by the department of buildings.  Why there needs to be a mini-store in a storefront, other than as a source of revenue, is beyond me.  It will further degrade our commercial strip with more "businesses" hawking items on our streets.  We already have enough of this.

Why can't our merchants (and the property owners) aim higher than this?  If the rent is too high then they should find another location, rather than relying on creating an illegal storefront in their restaurant to supplement their revenue. 

Personally, I vote with my dollar.  Perhaps some patrons can express their concerns about this business practice to the owner.  Again, this is attitude and approach by our merchants is very disheartening for our commercial district.  We need them to aim higher in Jackson Heights.


+1
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: petster on December 24, 2013, 06:42:24 PM
It's a thong. No it's cologne. Oh it's food....... If you cant be what you purport then its all very tired .....   +2
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: dssjh on December 24, 2013, 08:00:45 PM
I can totally understand the knee jerk objection , even though some of the best food I've had in recent years has been in subdivided places - a Persian stand inside a blah Chelsea pizza joint, the chat outside the ready penny on73rd. If its not egregiously ugly I don't see why people are getting panties in a bunch.

Lifer, you know details better then I.... Is this illegal as you said, or just unpalatable to those with certain aesthetics ?
Title: Samdura
Post by: fillmorep on January 08, 2014, 12:50:49 PM
Had a very fine meal last night at this new veggie Indian place on 37th around 76th next to Dunkin' Donuts. Very fresh food nicely presented by friendly staff. Sparse customer base perhaps due to cold but they seemed to be getting some takeout orders. Prices are more than fair and I highly recommend even if you're not a vegetarian. Never had lentil donuts before and found them delish with the coconut sauce spooned on top...just one of many appealing prospects on the long menu....
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: fillmorep on January 08, 2014, 12:57:18 PM
Was there last night and as far as I can see they are referring only to a very small area in the front, nothing that would require subdivision or whatnot. There are a couple of bakery cases already in place from which a vendor could sell Indian snacks or kulfis or something. This is a place that deserves support. My take....
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: Jeffsayyes on January 09, 2014, 08:16:18 PM
I don't think it's illegal. It's quite common on 74th/73rd streets, and along Roosevelt Avenue. That's just the reality of business in this neighborhood.
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: Liz on January 15, 2014, 02:47:21 PM
My husband and I went to Samudra this weekend and really enjoyed it - prices are reasonable, the waiter was very helpful, and we had the feeling that the spiciness could be adjusted quite a bit.
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: Matt on January 21, 2014, 02:08:23 PM
A small feature today on Brownstoner Queens:

Signature Dish: Samudra Indian Restuarant

http://queens.brownstoner.com/2014/01/signature-dish-samdura-indian-restaurant/ (http://queens.brownstoner.com/2014/01/signature-dish-samdura-indian-restaurant/)
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: moxybyproxy on January 21, 2014, 06:28:42 PM
Thanks for posting this!  There are so few South Indian restaurants here.   I would really like to check it out, but 2 out of 19 reviewers said they got food poisoning there.  They are also not yet graded by the health department  :-\
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: Shelby2 on January 21, 2014, 09:00:10 PM
Samudra is now available on Seamless.com.  Just got an email today.

Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: Brook Lynn on January 31, 2014, 11:54:59 AM
I've been to Samudra a few times over the past couple weeks, and even ordered delivery from them. I ended up here because I was trying to order takeout from Arunee and they told me the wait time was 45 minutes (on a Wednesday night!). 

I think this is a really great addition to the area, and I can't believe that they're not getting more foot traffic.  The food has been consistently good, the servers consistently friendly and helpful.  I even got a free dessert to try the last time I was there. I hope they succeed!
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: ptbass75 on January 31, 2014, 04:39:56 PM
If you haven't tried them yet, there is currently a Groupon running for them. I just bought one and I'm looking forward to trying them this weekend.
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: buddy on February 24, 2014, 04:37:09 PM
Was looking for a Vegetarian restaurant in the neighborhood other than Dosa Delight.  And I know all the Indian restaurants serve vegetarian dishes but I wanted to try someplace new.  Ended up here for lunch today.  Before ordering I read reviews on yelp so decided to have a Dosa.  On yelp someone had a mix of spinach and potatoes which wasn't on the menu so I asked and they graciously accommodated me.  It's the first time I had a Dosa that wasn't already filled when brought to the table (like the buffet at the Jackson Diner) and I was so happy.  I've always hated this big shell with stuffing only in the middle.  It was light and crisp; I liked tearing it apart and spooning on my filling and sampling first the orange sauce -- never saw or had before --and it was mildly spicy and delicious.  Next I sampled the coconut sauce (maybe what they called coconut chutney?).  I LOVE coconut flavor so this was also wonderful.  The sambar tasted like a light tomato broth lentil vegetable soup.  I liked it a lot.  I didn't expect to get full since there wasn't rice with the Dosa but after I ate EVERYTHING I was perfectly full.  I can't wait to go back and try a other dishes.  The interior was clean, bland but pleasant.  The front cases that JHlifer mentioned were empty and looked like they would be for desserts.  It certainly wouldn't bother me at all if they had a vendor selling their desserts as a compliment to the restaurants food but honestly, since they were empty I have no idea what the deal is there.  eddiestjohns I was surprised to see you didn't like the idea since it's not like the restaurant was divided into different establishments.  The rents are so high in JHs if this helps a vegetarian restaurant stay in business I AM ALL FOR IT!   (the photo looks like a potato dosa)
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: Matt on February 24, 2014, 07:03:31 PM
They are also not yet graded by the health department  :-\

When I walked by over the weekend I noticed that they now have a grade of A from the board of health. Whatever issue they may have had initially seems to have been taken care of. I don't think it is uncommon for a new restaurant to have a "grade pending" sign in the window.

Thanks for posting your review, buddy. I'm not sure why I have not tried this place yet. I love dosas!
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: Di_11372 on February 24, 2014, 10:54:00 PM

This is the best Indian food I have ever eaten in Jackson Heights. I recently brought a vegetarian friend of mine here on a bitter cold day and she was extremely happy with the food, and she's a picky eater. I have been here several times and also appreciate the fact that not everything is super spicy, and they respect the fact that some people prefer average/mild spices.
I recently ordered the potatoe dosa, it was delicious, it was my actually my first dosa.
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: fillmorep on February 25, 2014, 11:20:36 AM
Totally agree! The food is marvelous and they need more customers! Go and try, all, it is amazing value and delicious authentic flavor...
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: superjack55 on March 09, 2014, 04:21:25 PM
I stopped in after work this week for a to-go order, and really liked the food.  What was even nicer was that while I was waiting, the owner invited me to sit down in back (rather than stand up front), and was so super nice when I asked him a bunch of questions about what was on the menu. Even after my order came out, he told me to wait a minute, and brought out a small dessert for me (i'm not sure what it was, but it was delicious, like rice pudding but more watery, with hints of cinnamon and crushed pistachios on top).  I actually told him I saw his restaurant on this forum, and he had me show him the website on his ipad :) .  Great experience, will definitely go back in the near future.  As mentioned, interior is not modern, just run-of-the-mill, but its not a hole in the wall either, so it would be comfortable to dine-in.   
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: Matt on April 14, 2014, 12:19:40 PM
I finally went here with a friend over the weekend. I had the Mysore Rava Masala Dosa, which was really different than other dosas I have had in the past. The wrap itself had a reddish coloring and was a bit spicy in addition to the filling and was delicious. My friend had the Mushroom Uthappam, which she did not think she would finish, but ended up leaving very little on her plate. I'll definitely be back again soon.

My order did take a little long, but it was worth it in the end.
Title: Samudra Indian Restaurant- has anyone tried it?
Post by: JacksonHeightsSinger on June 18, 2014, 02:44:19 PM
There is a new Indian restaurant located on 75th Street and 37th Avenue called Samudra Indian Restaurant. They are a pure vegetarian restaurant- specializing in South Indian dishes (dosa, idly, etc.).

Just curious if anyone in the neighborhood has tried their food. It seems like a nice place!
Title: Re: Samudra Indian Restaurant- has anyone tried it?
Post by: Superclam on June 18, 2014, 03:04:33 PM
This was discussed here:

http://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?topic=9987.0

It got good reviews, and I keep meaning to try it, but I haven't yet.
Title: Re: Samudra Indian Restaurant- has anyone tried it?
Post by: Ecrivain on June 19, 2014, 11:01:00 AM
I've been many times, consistently excellent and extremely affordable. Service is earnest but sometimes spotty (they forget a dish, or bring the wrong one). Even this is better lately. Some of the best palak paneer and aloo gobi I've ever had.
Title: Re: Samudra Indian Restaurant- has anyone tried it?
Post by: pipman on June 19, 2014, 07:26:46 PM
I use to go to Dosa Diner on 73rd Street for my fix of Masala Dosa and Indian vegertarian dishes--noticed both service and food was inconsistent.  Been to Samudra twice and really enjoyed all the dishes--especially the dosas and appetizers such as dahi vada, samosa chat...the Thali is good as well.  It is never very crowded, so hope more people try it out.  I like meat, but this is very satisfying vegetarian meal. 
Title: Re: Samudra Indian Restaurant- has anyone tried it?
Post by: Di_11372 on June 22, 2014, 03:49:50 PM

Samudra is great, enjoy....
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: toddg on September 25, 2014, 10:21:35 PM
Serious Eats mentions Samudra as a great place to get Chaat (http://www.seriouseats.com/2014/09/best-chaat-nyc-indian-snack-food.html).   
Title: Samudra
Post by: r on June 29, 2020, 04:56:52 PM
What is everyone's favorite thing to order from Samudra?

I keep reading that they might close, planning to order from them next time we get delivery!

(e.g. https://www.politico.com/newsletters/new-york-playbook/2020/06/16/small-businesses-stare-into-the-abyss-homeless-residents-left-in-the-dark-about-covid-spread-relatives-of-new-yorkers-killed-by-police-rebuke-cuomo-489541)
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: rizzeroo on June 29, 2020, 06:14:07 PM
Soup, usually spinach, and a veggie samosa. 

If they go I'll miss picking up phone orders there: while you patiently sit and wait for your order it's happened many times they'll offer a small cup of rice pudding to enjoy.  If not that then they will offer water.   Regardless, they're very kind and I'm glad others want to support them as well.
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: dssjh on June 29, 2020, 08:19:02 PM
i love the Mysore Masala Dosa, but it is spicy if that's a concern. the Onion Dosa is really good if you prefer something mild. both are quite large and come with sambar/chutney.

the paneer entrees are great, but rich. and my personal favorite - an acquired taste, i've been told -- is the Halwa Puri. a dish of sweet pudding, a dish of spicy chickpeas and two puri. it's a breakfast dish in South India, i believe, but i can eat it any time.
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: Ecrivain on June 29, 2020, 09:35:47 PM
The palak paneer and the baingan bharta are spectacular!
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: BEB on July 03, 2020, 02:04:57 PM
So we ordered dinner at Samudra last night. As always, so good!! In the past I was hooked on their channa bhatura. It is this super delicious, spicy chickpea dish served over this puffy fried bread. (I always add a side order of coconut chutney ($1) to take the heat down to my preferred taste.)

Last night I wanted to try a few new dishes with rice, fearing the fried bread might be too heavy. We chose Aloo Palak, Channa Phishori, Spinach Masala Dosa. It was a lot of food for two people, but we wanted leftovers for lunch.

The channa and the dosa were the stars of the show. The chickpeas had mild spice and were flavorful. I added a little of the enclosed yoghurt sauce which was a nice addition. I did enjoy the Aloo Palak too which for my tastes benefitted from adding a little of the enclosed (red) hot sauce and a touch of salt. (They also included some pickled hot mango on the side as well.)

This dosa knocked my socks off. In this version the crepe was made with rice and lentil flour and filled with spinach and potato masala. It absolutely sings with a douse of coconut chutney (which comes on the side with it) and a dash of salt. Delicious and filling.

Besides increasing our order frequency, we wonder if there is any other way we can help Samudra stay in business? Maybe a go fund me or other way to donate is out there? Please let us know. They are a true gem in this neighborhood!
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: abcdefghijk on July 03, 2020, 06:57:02 PM
They could be creative. Maybe screen BOLLYWOOD movies by their outside dining area.

That'll help them stand out.

Laly's, for instance, appears to have created a night club vibe with loud Latinx club music.
And they seem to be always busy now.
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: Shelby2 on July 03, 2020, 07:11:04 PM
So we ordered dinner at Samudra last night. As always, so good!! In the past I was hooked on their channa bhatura. It is this super delicious, spicy chickpea dish served over this puffy fried bread. (I always add a side order of coconut chutney ($1) to take the heat down to my preferred taste.)

Last night I wanted to try a few new dishes with rice, fearing the fried bread might be too heavy. We chose Aloo Palak, Channa Phishori, Spinach Masala Dosa. It was a lot of food for two people, but we wanted leftovers for lunch.

The channa and the dosa were the stars of the show. The chickpeas had mild spice and were flavorful. I added a little of the enclosed yoghurt sauce which was a nice addition. I did enjoy the Aloo Palak too which for my tastes benefitted from adding a little of the enclosed (red) hot sauce and a touch of salt. (They also included some pickled hot mango on the side as well.)

This dosa knocked my socks off. In this version the crepe was made with rice and lentil flour and filled with spinach and potato masala. It absolutely sings with a douse of coconut chutney (which comes on the side with it) and a dash of salt. Delicious and filling.

Besides increasing our order frequency, we wonder if there is any other way we can help Samudra stay in business? Maybe a go fund me or other way to donate is out there? Please let us know. They are a true gem in this neighborhood!

A gofundme might work but it would have to be creative. Maybe raise money where half goes to the restaurant for operating expenses and the other half to purchase a meal for first responders or hospital staff. So if someone donates $20, then $10 goes to the restaurant to keep them afloat, and $10 goes to buy Samudra food to donate to some sort of group event.
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: dssjh on July 03, 2020, 07:54:45 PM
They could be creative. Maybe screen BOLLYWOOD movies by their outside dining area.

That'll help them stand out.

Laly's, for instance, appears to have created a night club vibe with loud Latinx club music.
And they seem to be always busy now.
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the idea is cool. but their outdoor seating area is two tables with four seats, and nowhere to put a screen -- unless they block the door to the restaurant and plug in a big screen TV.
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: abcdefghijk on July 03, 2020, 08:12:55 PM
The solutions are staring them in the face.

Arepa Lady, Arunee (and everyone in Astoria) have taken over the street for extra outdoor space... where Samudra might screen Bollywood films.

It doesn't take an Einstein to steal that idea of using the street.

It takes creativity.

Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: dssjh on July 03, 2020, 11:28:17 PM
it will take more than creativity to screen a film in a space that limited. they can't take the whole sidewalk...there needs to be a space to walk. and people will have to walk between the diners/viewers and the screen/monitor the whole time. spatial realities have to be considered.

it's a narrow storefront. they only have room for four seats now. they could boost that to eight if they take a parking lane, but then where does the screen go.

physical reality, not out of the box thoughts. i'm not being confrontational here. would really like to hear your concrete answer.
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: abcdefghijk on July 04, 2020, 09:59:36 AM
“Never allow carping critics to deter you from success. Instead, silence them with it.”

If there is one thing I have learned, it's not to engage in endless theoretical discourses with folks whose hobby is finding problems...
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: dssjh on July 04, 2020, 10:50:53 AM
when you float theories, expect to be challenged. if you can't rise to meet a challenge, you've shown the theory to be invalid.

when your theories generate success, you will be rewarded with silence.
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: abcdefghijk on July 04, 2020, 12:07:25 PM
It's an idea. Not a theory.

The restaurant is free to run with it.

Or not.
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: r on July 10, 2020, 04:26:17 PM
Thanks everyone for the menu suggestions!

Our favorites so far are the dosas, the malai kofta, and the Bombay burger. I hope they can stay in business.
Title: Re: Samudra
Post by: BEB on July 10, 2020, 06:13:04 PM
I haven't yet eaten in one of these outdoor situations yet. I'd be curious to hear about people's dining experiences on 37th Ave in particular. If Samudra is in arrears to their landlord, it might be hard to pay the startup costs involved in building a compliant dining structure for the street. I have heard many people say they just aren't ready yet, even for the outdoor dining experience.   

And since there's been a lot of back and forth, I have a suggestion for this visual appeal idea: Samudra could place a translucent surface (like a sheer white curtain or vellum) inside their windows, projecting the image through this and out through the glass storefront. It would look cool, but considering how late it gets dark now, it might not be effective for many of their open hours.