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Title: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: toddg on October 29, 2007, 08:32:08 AM
By popular demand, we now have a thread dedicated to discussion of the Jackson Heights Starbucks...

Best thing ever to happen to the neighborhood?
A sign of the coming apocalypse?
Never going to happen?

Your opinions and rumors are welcome here!
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: heidinewyork on October 29, 2007, 09:07:16 AM
I just wish it would get here already. And does anyone know when Espresso 77 will open? I'll take whatever coffee I can get.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Shelby2 on October 29, 2007, 09:45:31 AM
I'm looking forward to it - I check for progress every time I walk by. . . but unfortunately I'm not seeing any!

And perhaps this should be a different thread, but everyone always talks about how the rents on 37th Ave are prohibitively expensive.  I still don't understand how all those 99 cent stores stay alive.  Do they really sell that many items?  How about that absolutely giant health and beauty items store on 37th between 83rd and 84th that always seems to be empty?  I heard the rent is $17,000 a month.  That's a lot of shampoo.

So back to the point - why is it so hard to attract better businesses to the district when these other stores are managing to stay alive?  At one point when people thought Starbucks was not coming, I heard this tossed around as a potential reason - that they demand lower rent spaces as they tend to be anchor stores for a neighborhood and rents on 37th Ave were too high.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Shelby2 on November 08, 2007, 09:47:39 PM
Saw some work going on in the Starbucks space today and the rumors are flying that the 'lease has been signed'. We'll see!
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: DijoninJH on November 09, 2007, 09:15:22 AM
This was posted on the JH parents yahoo group page today.

“Yes it has been confirmed, STARBUCKS COFFEE Company will be opening
on 37 Ave! The neighborhood has been waiting for the arrival of its'
first international retailer to 37th Avenue. We would like to welcome
Starbucks to our office building at 78-27 37th Avenue, The Queensboro
Building! All the rumors have come true according to our landlord News
Realty. They have confirmed that Starbucks has signed a lease in the
hood. I would like to thank all of the owners and staff at News Realty
for their continued efforts toward enriching our community. We are
proud to share an address with STARBUCKS COFFEE. See you here soon!”

So I hope Espresso 77 opens soon to get a nice head start.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: DaniB on November 18, 2007, 12:29:31 AM
I'm excited about it too!!  There's just no decent coffee places.  Sometimes it's nice to treat yourself.   :)
I'm also wondering how all of these stores stay in business.  82nd Street is just ridiculous!  Walking to the 7 Train is like walking through an obstacle course!!  Anyway, I hope the Starbucks comes soon.  Same for Espresso 77.   
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Handyman-B on November 18, 2007, 09:44:17 AM
Oh my GOD!   You mean to say there's a community in the area WITHOUT a Starbucks??

Since I don't live in Jackson Heights anymore I can't really comment on it, I just love this picture  :-)

(http://a896.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/25/m_fef209d2093f5ca07211c0f3edb202a7.jpg)

"And that's all I got to say about that"  -Forrest Gump
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: toddg on November 19, 2007, 10:46:40 AM
In order to keep this discussion on its coffee-centric topic, there's now a new thread (http://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?topic=62.0) dedicated to discussion of a bookstore in JH.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: JD on November 19, 2007, 11:42:34 AM
I am all for Starbucks coming to the nabe. I am not a coffee expert by any means and I tend to label my java in the following catergories: fresh, old, weak and strong. In my experience Starbucks typically delivers fresh and strong coffee, which is as good a rating I can give. In addition, Starbucks offers a good variety of tasty treats and seasonale beverages.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: lmaniace on November 19, 2007, 09:47:47 PM
Stopped by Espresso77 yesterday and the work is proceeding. The owners are friendly and said they are on target for a December opening.
I've got no problem with a Starbucks, but I'd rather support a good local place (which I'm hoping it will be) run by Jackson Heights residents - and two architects at that.

-Len
visit my blog at http://parentsplace.lohudblogs.com
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: fishcado on November 21, 2007, 08:44:14 AM
Oh my GOD!   You mean to say there's a community in the area WITHOUT a Starbucks??

Since I don't live in Jackson Heights anymore I can't really comment on it, I just love this picture  :-)

(http://a896.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/25/m_fef209d2093f5ca07211c0f3edb202a7.jpg)

"And that's all I got to say about that"  -Forrest Gump

LOL!
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Chuckster on November 27, 2007, 10:18:36 PM
O.K.  So how does everyone remember the names and preps for all the Starbuck's concoctions?  I can honestly say that I've entered a Starbuck's approximately 3 times in my lifetime so far, and on each of those occasions, I've been baffled by the offerings and have ended up just buying a regular coffee.  They should publish an instruction manual to go with their coffee selection.   ???
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: NYCMacUser on November 28, 2007, 07:26:31 AM
. . . I've been baffled by the offerings and have ended up just buying a regular coffee.  They should publish an instruction manual to go with their coffee selection.
You can start your Starbucks education right here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/A533404). Personally I prefer MacDonald's new coffee selections.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Chuckster on November 28, 2007, 11:45:37 AM
You can start your Starbucks education right here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/A533404). Personally I prefer MacDonald's new coffee selections.

Wow!  I wasn't kidding when I said a manual is needed!  ;D  Thanks for the link. 
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: abee on November 28, 2007, 06:42:59 PM
I only order one of two things: a small pumpkin latte or a white chocolate mocha. I say small/medium/large. I feel dumb saying tall/grande/vente. For regular coffee I much prefer Dunkin Donuts.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: JD on November 28, 2007, 10:05:52 PM
I say small/medium/large as well and I hate it when the barista corrects me.  :tickedoff:
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: bunnyspeaks on November 30, 2007, 01:12:35 AM
I'd don't think that Starbucks will do well here, and I think the neighborhood is smarter than that. But maybe not. You can't really get a cup of coffee and get on the crowded trains anyway. Lost cause.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Avela on November 30, 2007, 08:35:15 PM
You can't beat Dunkin Donuts for a good cup of coffee at a reasonable price.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Chuckster on December 01, 2007, 11:25:55 AM
You can't beat Dunkin Donuts for a good cup of coffee at a reasonable price.

Avela, I agree with you 100%.  On this chilly morning, my Dunkin French vanilla coffee along with my toasted wheat bagel sure made me feel warm and cozy.   :)  And a nice price too!
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Shelby2 on December 22, 2007, 12:31:33 AM
I saw four men inside the rumored site of Starbucks today, appearing as if they were contractors or workers, though I didn't actually see what they were doing.  Maybe it will actually open someday.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: intercaecos on December 22, 2007, 01:43:13 AM
Yes, work is finally under way, thank heaven, and it is going to be a Starbucks.

I moved here a number of years ago, and I've been eagerly anticipating such a development, together with many longtime residents of my acquaintance. It's crucial that the commercial sector in this neighborhood be more balanced so that it serves the entire spectrum of people who live here. What we really need is a clean, attractive supermarket like Food Emporium. Starbucks is an extremely good first step, however. It's nice to finally have Fresh Direct service, but a physical, "bricks-and-mortar" presence of more attractive and upscale stores is crucial.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: kate on December 22, 2007, 01:38:37 PM
I think starbucks will do well, as it's a name, and it's located close enough to the hospital for the employees there to patronize it. This is in addition to those who live in the community.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Bonito Flakes on December 22, 2007, 02:30:18 PM
I'm hoping the outside isn't the typical Starbucks cookie cutter design that I've seen all over Manhattan. I've read that the JHBG is being active in how the outside will look. I was thinking something along the lines of this:


Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: intercaecos on December 22, 2007, 02:37:26 PM
That's stunning; I certainly hope so. The Queensboro Corp. Building originally had similar windows with divided lights. 

One of the best things about Starbucks is that its stores are not franchises, but are run directly by the company. Therefore, product standards are reliable, being consistently high throughout the chain. Best of all, because of its thorough market research, the company tends to serve as a "green light" for other desirable businesses, which are so desperately needed in a neighborhood dominated by shabby stores.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Chuckster on December 22, 2007, 03:11:37 PM
Here's the page from the NYC Department of Buildings officially stating some of the work being conducted on the Starbucks at 78-25 37th
Avenue.

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/ELInspectionWorkOrderServlet?requestid=2&allcontrolnumber=A264418
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: spaceboy on December 22, 2007, 04:23:05 PM
Bonito, is that in England?
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Bonito Flakes on December 22, 2007, 04:53:27 PM
Spaceboy - Yup, Leeds to be exact. Here is another one I like :


Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: kate on December 26, 2007, 03:26:18 PM
I walked by today, and got some pics of one of the workers holding blueprints entitled "Starbucks, Jackson Heights" 
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Chuckster on December 26, 2007, 03:34:32 PM
So more and more the impending presence of Starbuck's in Jackson Heights seems to be "officially" official.  Kate, did the worker provide any information on a possible opening month? 
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: kate on December 26, 2007, 09:34:43 PM
Chuck,

I really didn't have much time to stop and chat. I got a quick picture told them i'd be by another day.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: David_M on December 27, 2007, 01:07:57 PM
O.K.  So how does everyone remember the names and preps for all the Starbuck's concoctions?  I can honestly say that I've entered a Starbuck's approximately 3 times in my lifetime so far, and on each of those occasions, I've been baffled by the offerings and have ended up just buying a regular coffee.  They should publish an instruction manual to go with their coffee selection.   ???

Having just moved to JH from Seattle-The-Coffee-Mecca, Chuck, I can assure you the levels of Starbucks coffee specifics are absolutely bottomless.

CaffeineHeads in Seattle, without breaking a smile or causing a single raised eyebrow, order "a triple-venti no-foam macchiato with hazelnut and nutmeg".  Or "a tall, extra-hot half-caf americano with steamed 2% and vanilla".

When a decaf latte with nonfat milk is ordered, the call to the barrista is "one Why Bother!".   :laugh:
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: kate on December 30, 2007, 05:13:50 PM
 Some pics of the future home of Starbucks, to be opened Feb 2008.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: worldwidedeb on January 10, 2008, 06:10:12 PM
I really wish we could get the Juan Valdez folks to open a Cafe in our neighborhood.  Would make so much sense, given the demographics. And, IMO, their coffee is better than Starbucks.

http://jscms.jrn.columbia.edu/cns/2005-04-05/heydarpour-juanvaldez/

I actually wrote them a few years back, but never received a response.

Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: intercaecos on January 10, 2008, 07:15:49 PM
Well, many people who have lived here for years -- including me -- have been urging Starbucks to come here for a long time, and we couldn't be more thrilled that they are finally coming!
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: kate on January 10, 2008, 07:48:16 PM
Bring it on. It's shaping up nicely. Seems like the counter is going to be in the back, seating near the window.
Title: Starbucks Location
Post by: MeliZoops on January 11, 2008, 09:24:58 AM
I don't know if anyone confirmed the Starbucks location on this site...from what I have read, it's been a debate.

So, in case you don't know, the Starbucks will be on 37th, between 77th and 78th, across from the Post Office and next to Novo.  I was walking down 37th Ave, last night and peeked in the window of the empty storefront to look at the construction.  On the floor, by the door was some heating and cooling apparatus hanging out of a box.  On the box was a label addressed to STARBUCKS at that address.

So there you have it!

They stil have a lot to finish...but given the machine that Starbucks is, I predict they'll be open in time to serve some sort of Valentine's inspired "beverage".
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: intercaecos on January 11, 2008, 07:03:00 PM
The location is in the Queensboro Corporation Building, on 37th Avenue between 78th and 79th streets. And here's hoping they're open by Valentine's Day!
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: kate on January 14, 2008, 06:01:01 PM
It looks as though it might open fairly soon (early February). I saw them working on it Saturday evening, which means someone is putting in some OT. Plus, it looks like a lot of the sheetrock and other foundational stuff is up.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: toddg on January 15, 2008, 09:51:12 AM
Concern/joy about the arrival of Starbucks in Jackson Heights hits the Daily News...

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/queens/2008/01/15/2008-01-15_starbucks_perks_angst_excitement.html

Starbucks perks angst, excitement

BY BETWA SHARMA
SPECIAL TO NEWS

Tuesday, January 15th 2008, 4:00 AM

To the rich mix of ethnic businesses in Jackson Heights, a novel addition is coming: Starbucks.

The pending arrival of the gourmet coffee chain has stirred up heated debates about what it means for the identity of the once-working-class community.

Some are eagerly awaiting it, while others view it as a misfit in an area better known for its Little India and its vibrant Latino shops.

The new Starbucks at 78-27 37th Ave. will be nestled among the independently owned stores.

"Some people are truly concerned about the mom-and-pop establishments and how they would be affected," said Marlene Flores, a real estate agent who lives and works in Jackson Heights.

Tania Mattos, who works in an art gallery and also lives in the neighborhood, said she loves the "personal feel" of smaller stores and sees the arrival of Starbucks as a sign of gentrification.

But not everyone is against it.

"Starbucks represents a change in a neighborhood of mediocre mom-and-pop stores," said local resident Robair Russ.

Donald Basse, who has lived in Jackson Heights for six years, believes Starbucks will add even more variety.

"We need to have more upscale businesses like Starbucks in Jackson Heights, so that all people who live here can have retail options," Basse said.

The supporters will not have to wait long. Dan Lewis, a regional spokesman for the Seattle-based company, said the new store is scheduled to open in February.

(Follow the link for the complete article, including quotes from Espresso 77 and Lety's proprietors)
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: kate on January 15, 2008, 05:06:43 PM
Wow, Starbucks in JH seems to be some type of historic event.  Got a picture of the blueprints in the window of Starbucks when they started to work on it. I wonder if it will be worth something one day?  :2funny:
Interesting discussion about gentrification. 
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: toddg on January 17, 2008, 05:13:07 PM
In response to the Daily News article on the JH Starbucks, the Jackson Heights Blog (http://jacksonheightsblog.com/2008/01/16/retail-stores-in-jh-vs-the-medias-image-of-jh/) has an interesting post on the media's portrayal of JH vs. the neighborhood's history and direction.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: kate on January 31, 2008, 08:32:28 PM
Seems like they're working fast to get things together. Anyone know the opening date? I guess once we see the "we are taking job apps" then it will be a clue.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: alleyinJH on January 31, 2008, 10:21:11 PM
It's listed on the Starbucks website now as "coming soon."
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Chuckster on February 04, 2008, 06:21:49 PM
Today I noticed that some the furniture has been put in place.  It looks like there will be plenty of plush type seating available.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: kate on February 04, 2008, 06:37:39 PM
I noticed that too, and pictures hanging on the wall. Do you think they'll open Saturday?
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: APG7714 on February 04, 2008, 06:48:49 PM
I noticed that too, and pictures hanging on the wall. Do you think they'll open Saturday?

Finally............ 8)
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Chuckster on February 04, 2008, 06:50:22 PM
Saturday?  That seems pretty soon.  They're still missing a store sign.  Has it been rumored to open that early in February?
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: JD on February 04, 2008, 06:54:04 PM
I've heard mention in the past about a Valentine's Day opening. Given the appearance of the store, this appears to be very realistic.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: kate on February 07, 2008, 05:27:41 PM
I read on chowhound that the opening date is Feb 22. I think the place looks gorgeous so far. Lots of comfy sofas, and floor lamps. Almost like a living room. Almost like they took their cue from Novo (but, with nicer and newer furniture). I guess they start posting that they're looking for help and get their staff together. It will be interesting to see the quality of the coffee. I've seen mixed reviews about Starbucks coffee (which i happen to like). I think it varies from store to store.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: ECG on February 07, 2008, 05:32:39 PM
The STARBUCK'S sign is up over the store today.

Oddly enough, all the other stores in that building have had to remove their signs because they didn't comply with Landmark Policies. Flagship is fighting and has spent $$$$ so far in their lawsuit.

This should be interesting to watch as Novo and Ingrid are in compliance.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: kate on February 07, 2008, 05:42:25 PM
I haven't been that way today, not surprised the sign is up. I wonder if the Feb 22 date is a bit off? Any sign about applications?
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Chuckster on February 07, 2008, 05:46:28 PM
Hubby and I peeked in through the window yesterday.  He suggested that we move our TV into the Starbucks so we can lounge around in luxury. ;D
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: kate on February 07, 2008, 05:48:49 PM
I think it's much nicer than some of the ones in Manhattan. Does look comfy.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Chuckster on February 11, 2008, 11:38:51 AM
Our new Starbuck's made the pages of Curbed and Racked this morning.

http://curbed.com/archives/2008/02/11/jackson_heights_joins_the_rest_of_civilization.php
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Shelby2 on February 11, 2008, 11:58:27 AM
Thanks for the link to curbed.  The snarkiness/sarcasm in their piece is incredibly thick, though.  It seems they love to hate Queens.

"My, that Jackson Heights sure is growing up! The Queens neighborhood nearly as popular as Tribeca has a brand new coffee shop, Racked reveals, and it's a cute little mom-and-pop operation called Starbucks. Writes Racked's tipster, "Witness the brand new Starbucks on 37th Ave. and 79th Street in Jackson Heights—looks great and should be open this week. Starbucks is an amenity rarely seen or enjoyed throughout the 5 boroughs. And now we have one. And you don't." What's next, Jack Heights, one of those banks or frozen yogurt stores we've been hearing about?"
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: flt on February 11, 2008, 12:26:01 PM
Curbed is nasty about every single neighborhood. They are just bitter that they are (as usual) about 5 years behind. They are still talking about Brooklyn as the up-and-coming borough, despite the fact that many people have already been priced out of Brooklyn.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: toddg on February 11, 2008, 12:45:55 PM
I wouldn't take it that seriously.  I don't sense that Curbed has any particular agenda... they're just snarky about everything.  It adds humor to what would be a dull site otherwise.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: toddg on February 11, 2008, 07:17:38 PM
In other *$ news...

Cheaper Wi-Fi Access at Starbucks and Beyond (http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/11/cheaper-wi-fi-access-at-starbucks-and-beyond/index.html?hp) (NY Times - Bits)

Of course, Wi-Fi is free at a certain renowned locally-owned coffee joint.  Just sayin'.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: ECG on February 12, 2008, 12:03:01 AM
Yup!

And you don't have to put on makeup in the AM so you look good in the mirrors! And it is starting to be like Cheers, where everybody knows your name  :D
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: toddg on February 15, 2008, 11:57:45 AM
JH Starbucks closing already?

http://gothamist.com/2008/02/14/starbucks_to_cl.php

Just kidding.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: buddy on February 15, 2008, 04:06:15 PM
So I peeked in the window today on my way to the bank.  It's going to be soooo nice.  Really happy just to see the stupid STARBUCKS sign up!

And then I went straight to Expresso 77 and bought a pound of THEIR coffee because it's better tasting and phoned my friend to tell him there was lemon poppyseed muffins (his fave) and to hurry over and buy one.

I think the neighborhood can support two fun coffee houses... I know I can.  :2funny:
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: intercaecos on February 16, 2008, 02:38:14 PM
That sign certainly doesn't look stupid to me....in fact, it looks quite civilized.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: kate on February 16, 2008, 02:45:34 PM
So I peeked in the window today on my way to the bank.  It's going to be soooo nice.  Really happy just to see the stupid STARBUCKS sign up!

And then I went straight to Expresso 77 and bought a pound of THEIR coffee because it's better tasting and phoned my friend to tell him there was lemon poppyseed muffins (his fave) and to hurry over and buy one.

I think the neighborhood can support two fun coffee houses... I know I can.  :2funny:

Since you sound like you're not going to be frequenting Starbucks, then I'll have your seat. I don't think they're sign is stupid, and I love the coffee. I also like the snacks/desserts. They have a great turkey sandwich that's low-cal among other things.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: ECG on February 16, 2008, 03:54:24 PM
The sign is a sign, but it is out of compliance with the Landmarking regulations. That building isn't allowed to have signs on the brick facing. Ask the owners of Novo or Flagship about it.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: buddy on February 16, 2008, 04:41:06 PM
Since you sound like you're not going to be frequenting Starbucks, then I'll have your seat. I don't think they're sign is stupid, and I love the coffee. I also like the snacks/desserts. They have a great turkey sandwich that's low-cal among other things.

Kate, problem with typing is words can be misinterpreted.  When I said "stupid sign", I wasn't implying I don't like it... JUST THE OPPOSITE.    It's like I never thought a sign would make so happy.  And I'm sorry to hear about the Landmarks and the brick re: the sign.  Hopefully they'll all work it out.  I love Starbuck's Chai lattes etc.  Their coffee is too strong for me which is why I'll be supporting both Express 77 and Starbucks. So, girlfriend, if you're sitting on that sofa - move over.  :2funny:
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: intercaecos on February 16, 2008, 06:05:51 PM
I'm sorry to hear about a non-compliance issue too, because I am certainly a supporter of Starbucks. But I'll never complain about the Landmarks Commission!  Do you remember what the Queensboro Corp. Building looked like just a few years ago, when practically every square inch of it was covered with hideous signs?  Much like that poor Art Deco building a couple of blocks to the west still is.

By the way, Flagship is hardly in compliance.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: kate on February 16, 2008, 06:54:34 PM
Kate, problem with typing is words can be misinterpreted.  When I said "stupid sign", I wasn't implying I don't like it... JUST THE OPPOSITE.    It's like I never thought a sign would make so happy.  And I'm sorry to hear about the Landmarks and the brick re: the sign.  Hopefully they'll all work it out.  I love Starbuck's Chai lattes etc.  Their coffee is too strong for me which is why I'll be supporting both Express 77 and Starbucks. So, girlfriend, if you're sitting on that sofa - move over.  :2funny:

I like the green tea latte myself.


Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: willsweeney on February 19, 2008, 12:43:47 PM
Assemblyman Jose Peralta announced at a local community meeting that Starbucks will open for business on Friday, February 22nd.
There will be special pre-opening event for the public on Thursday night from 6pm-8pm featuring free 12 oz. drinks.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: toddg on February 19, 2008, 02:44:06 PM
Sorry to belabor the sign issue, but this picture (http://eater.com/archives/2008/02/monday_opening_2.php) over at Eater suggests to me that perhaps this type of signage is allowed in landmark districts.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Chuckster on February 19, 2008, 04:23:27 PM
The following link will reveal the rules and guidelines for sign installation as they specifically pertain to the Jackson Heights Historic District.  The information may be found under the heading of "Storefronts in the Jackson Heights Historic District".  Then look under "Storefront Alterations", subsection "(4) Signage".

From skimming through the information at the LPC, it seems as if Starbucks may indeed be in violation.  With respect to the storefront sign from the Eater website, it just may be that the LPC applies a different set a rules to differing neighborhoods.  It can also just boil down to the questions of do two wrongs make a right?  Do two negatives always equal a positive, or does that only apply in Algebra?  Blah, blah, blah.... ;)

http://www.nyc.gov/html/lpc/downloads/pdf/pubs/rules.pdf

If you click on "Appendix A" from the Table of Contents, you will see a useful diagram of a storefront defining the terminology as used within the guidelines.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: spanishfish on February 19, 2008, 10:46:17 PM
From the DoB's Building Information Systems website, Starbucks did not apply for a signage permit, and they also self-certified the project (meaning the DoB did not review their plans, but it is subject to an audit at a later date, at which time they may be forced to make changes that do not comply to code).

They did receive LPC approval on 11/14/07. The approval indicates that the "FLAGSHIP" awning was never issued a permit and has been in violation since 2001. It also indicates if the owner does not fix this violation, they may be required to appear in court and pay a fine from the Environmental Control Board.

The LPC Approval also indicates that the plans that were approved for Starbucks did not address any current or future signage. I tried to attach the LPC Approval to this; hopefully it works. I did not see a separate signage permit application, but it may be in process and just not in the system yet.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: ECG on February 19, 2008, 11:10:08 PM
Flagship is in litigation on this. I guess Novo is screwed (pardon the language). Anyone willing to help Novo get a sign back?
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: buddy on February 20, 2008, 10:20:58 PM
So a sign on the door today said that tomorrow, Thursday, between 6pm and 8pm is a welcome neighbors to, I guess celebrate   the official opening which is this Friday.  IT'S FINALLY HERE.   :rockon: :smitten: :rockon:
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: ECG on February 20, 2008, 10:28:43 PM
Gee, guess what I gave up for Lent!

Only joking!!!!

I'm an equal opportunity caffeineur. Would that be the word for caffeine lover?
 :)
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: ECG on February 20, 2008, 10:31:22 PM
But Wait!

A greetings to Novo's newest neighbor, then a hop over next door to have a drink! Then rent a video, get a trim - ahhh, the Heights is a Wonderful Place!!!

Do I have them in the wrong order?
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: buddy on February 21, 2008, 01:39:50 PM
But Wait!

A greetings to Novo's newest neighbor, then a hop over next door to have a drink! Then rent a video, get a trim - ahhh, the Heights is a Wonderful Place!!!

Do I have them in the wrong order?

Yes! Because you should get a trim first so you look good for the rest of your WILD night.  Hello! :2funny:
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Chuckster on February 21, 2008, 03:27:07 PM
As I walked by there earlier today, I took a quick glance at their hours on the door.  I noticed 11:00 p.m. closing time for most days and midnight, I think on weekends.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: toddg on February 21, 2008, 04:12:14 PM
If anybody is planning to go this evening, take pictures of this historic event.  Future generations will marvel at the "old days" before there was a Starbucks franchise in the basement of every co-op in the neighborhood.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: mistapresident on February 21, 2008, 05:21:35 PM
Yes! Because you should get a trim first so you look good for the rest of your WILD night.  Hello! :2funny:


Haha - that whole segment was adorable!  ;D
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: buddy on February 22, 2008, 08:49:56 AM
Okay. Who went to the welcome party?  Heard there were people "spilling out of Starbucks onto the sidewalk".  dish, dish!!!!!
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: alleyinJH on February 22, 2008, 10:03:35 AM
We did.  It was packed. But I got a free chai latte, so it was worth it.  The inside was very spacious, a lot of seating.  They were also giving out samples of their desserts, yum! 
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: APG7714 on February 22, 2008, 02:52:04 PM
The place was packed this morning , I couldn't find a seat . It's one of the nicer Starbucks I have been in, next step ....Barnes and Noble :smitten:
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: kate on February 22, 2008, 04:52:39 PM
I didn't go to the opening with the free beverage, however, went this am on my way to work. It was around 7:30 so not so crowded. They were quite nice. I was waiting for my coffee, and the barista who took my order thought someone else took it, and realized I was waiting for awhile. Due to this they gave me a larger beverage at a lesser cost due to the wait---great service? I also had the apple donut---yum, yum. Really impressed. I agree it's one of the nicer ones.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Avela on February 22, 2008, 07:21:14 PM
So the overall opinion is that it is a nice new addition to the neighborhood?
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: intercaecos on February 22, 2008, 07:36:24 PM
You'd better believe it's a nice addition.  Now there's something I don't have to go to Manhattan to purchase!
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: bunnyspeaks on February 23, 2008, 02:04:15 PM
The Starbucks Litter also begins. I saw a starbucks coffee jacket in front of our building last night.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: intercaecos on February 23, 2008, 06:10:52 PM
If you're bothered by a Starbucks jacket, I guess you don't get trash of every description -- including dirty diapers -- thrown on the sidewalk in front of your building, as we've had.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: kate on February 27, 2008, 05:59:57 AM
I find the service and hospitality at this Starbucks to be outstanding. Very friendly. Seems they remember their customers.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Chuckster on February 27, 2008, 10:12:22 PM
Just returned from Starbucks, and was surprised to see a good number of people in there given the time.  The place was lively and people seemed to be enjoying good conversation.  I also happened to spot Seth Kugel as he prepared to begin some work on his laptop.  I would love to have introduced myself, but husband and dog were waiting for me out in the freezing cold.  It's COLD out there tonight!
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: kate on February 28, 2008, 12:13:22 AM
I noticed it's not just people sitting at their laptops. So, I agree there's kind of an interactive vibe going on. I saw a group of young women and their babies yesterday just sitting and talking. Varying age groups as well.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: toddg on April 03, 2008, 10:34:52 AM
Here's a great NY Times blog post about all the sorts of things we like to argue about:

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/03/frothing-over-a-starbucks-in-little-colombia/

If anybody is curious, this thread is named "The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread" in because the epic debates about Starbucks that took place over at JH Families were a key impetus for the creation of this site.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: John Prester on April 03, 2008, 12:11:43 PM
One woman working on a laptop said the debate has been debated on the local blogs like Jacksonheightslife.com and Jackson Heights, NYC.
“The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread,” on the first of those sites, asked what the new Starbucks signified


It's official - jacksonheightslife.com has now "Jumped The Shark" with a mention on the NY Times web site! 

Party's over - I'm moving to BushwickBK.com!

Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: michaelb on April 03, 2008, 12:23:57 PM
One woman working on a laptop said the debate has been debated on the local blogs like Jacksonheightslife.com and Jackson Heights, NYC.
“The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread,” on the first of those sites, asked what the new Starbucks signified

It's official - jacksonheightslife.com has now "Jumped The Shark" with a mention on the NY Times web site! 

Shit.  Here come the yuppies.




[g,d,r]
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: ECG on April 03, 2008, 03:10:29 PM
Gee, not to put this over on the Gentrification thread, but how come we are now Little Colombia? Aren't we usually Little India?

I thought the article was lame on its trying to categorize the neighborhood as one thing or another. Peralta isn't my representative - which part of JH is his?
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: jennsch on April 03, 2008, 03:13:26 PM
I've gone to the Starbucks a few times so far and, by far, it's got the most diverse group of customers I've seen at any store in Jackson Heights. I think the piece was way off base...
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Shelby2 on April 03, 2008, 03:27:49 PM
I've gone to the Starbucks a few times so far and, by far, it's got the most diverse group of customers I've seen at any store in Jackson Heights. I think the piece was way off base...

My reaction was much the same.  Every time I go in, I feel like it really is a microcosm of the types of people I see on the sidewalk.  The time I actually sat down and observed for awhile, I was with a Colombian friend and she had the same reaction.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: John Prester on April 03, 2008, 04:00:11 PM
I've gone to the Starbucks a few times so far and, by far, it's got the most diverse group of customers I've seen at any store in Jackson Heights. I think the piece was way off base...

My reaction was much the same.  Every time I go in, I feel like it really is a microcosm of the types of people I see on the sidewalk.  The time I actually sat down and observed for awhile, I was with a Colombian friend and she had the same reaction.

Quite ironic how the "evil corporate behemoth" that so many people loathe and love to hate, is probably one of the few places in the neighborhood that brings together a truly diverse crowd! 

Coffee drinkers of the world, unite!   
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: jennsch on April 03, 2008, 04:09:46 PM
Quite ironic how the "evil corporate behemoth" that so many people loathe and love to hate, is probably one of the few places in the neighborhood that brings together a truly diverse crowd! 

Coffee drinkers of the world, unite!   

And I love that gorgeous tiled wall behind their counter...
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: ShinjukuBaby on April 03, 2008, 04:47:21 PM
Although I like that it quoted something I posted on this board, it seems to me that the article was pretty much based on nothing.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Shelby2 on April 03, 2008, 05:44:13 PM
Although I like that it quoted something I posted on this board, it seems to me that the article was pretty much based on nothing.

Probably nothing but 10 minutes of internet "research" and a 5-minute Starbucks visit.  Did you catch the line where it looks like we are sitting over here in JH discussing our many French bistro options in the neighborhood?  It doesn't exactly say that the options are in the neighborhood, but it's kind of implied.

"There are also recommendations of good French bistro places, sidewalk food carts, and Texas barbecue, as well as where to buy organic milk and Mexican cocoa powder."

Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: toddg on April 03, 2008, 05:55:28 PM
It was odd in that it lacked a real news hook and relied so heavily on our website (which was fun to see but an odd  way of assessing community opinion).  But it was just a blog post, not an article for the print edition. 
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: spanishfish on April 06, 2008, 10:44:36 AM
Everyone realizes there is already a Starbucks on Northern Boulevard, right? It's not really new to the neighborhood.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Shelby2 on April 06, 2008, 11:00:48 AM
Everyone realizes there is already a Starbucks on Northern Boulevard, right? It's not really new to the neighborhood.

Do you mean the one in Woodside in the shopping mall with the Michael's Craft Store? 
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: spanishfish on April 06, 2008, 11:58:08 AM
That's the one. It's not that far from Jackson Heights. There's also one in Sunnyside on Queens Boulevard. And probably even more that I don't know about. I'm just not sure what all the uproar is about. Starbucks is all around our neighborhood.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: ECG on April 06, 2008, 12:00:34 PM
starbucks all around - circling, circling, until they found the Perfect neighborhood!
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: buddy on April 06, 2008, 01:13:09 PM
starbucks all around - circling, circling, until they found the Perfect neighborhood!

I'll bet Astoria would have something to say about that.    Is there an uproar? Still?  Haven't we moved on to yougurt stores?  Or French Bistros in our whining (speaking for myself here.  don't want to offend all the other whiners!)???
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: abee on April 06, 2008, 10:58:05 PM
That's the one. It's not that far from Jackson Heights. There's also one in Sunnyside on Queens Boulevard. And probably even more that I don't know about. I'm just not sure what all the uproar is about. Starbucks is all around our neighborhood.

The one on Northern isn't really accessible to Jackson Heights unless you have a car.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: spanishfish on April 07, 2008, 08:27:53 AM
There is a bus on Northern Boulevard that drops you off right at Starbucks, if you are on your way to Home Depot or Best Buy, it is very convenient.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: spanishfish on April 07, 2008, 08:28:14 AM
oh, or Chuck E Cheese, of course.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: jennsch on April 07, 2008, 10:28:39 AM
Yeah, the Q66 that runs down Northern is very handy (although, sometimes, a bit of a wait). And that area is also kind of a fun walk from JH.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: buddy on April 07, 2008, 07:51:29 PM
That Starbucks on Northern in the tiny plaza is the dullest Starbucks I've been in.  Not worth going out of your way for even before they opened on 37th Ave. 
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: JD on April 08, 2008, 02:30:18 PM
Starbucks has rolled out their new coffee blend. From Gothamist.
http://gothamist.com/2008/04/08/_starbucks_unve.php
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Ernie on April 08, 2008, 08:30:03 PM
Starbucks has rolled out their new coffee blend. From Gothamist.
http://gothamist.com/2008/04/08/_starbucks_unve.php

In todays NY Times, there was a flyer from Starbucks for a free cup of that new coffee.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: ECG on May 07, 2008, 10:36:07 AM
I've just heard that Starbucks rent is $17,000/month. Is that possible????????
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: APG7714 on May 08, 2008, 05:33:02 PM
I've just heard that Starbucks rent is $17,000/month. Is that possible????????
Anything ridiculously exorbitant  is possible in Jackson Heights , Greenpoint Bank = 300k a year
                                                                                      Greenpoint Bank= More than 3 years vacant
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: ECG on May 08, 2008, 11:06:24 PM
Is there one primary owner of the stores in JH?
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: toddg on July 18, 2008, 01:12:47 AM
For those of you sitting on the edge of your seats, Starbucks announced today the 600 specific locations it plans to close (http://www.starbucks.com/aboutus/pressdesc.asp?id=882).  Jackson Heights is not on the list... so we're safe for now from having ensure the humiliation of losing our only Starbucks.  Glendale isn't so lucky... it is losing both of its Starbucks locations.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: ECG on July 18, 2008, 01:23:02 PM
Wow! Atlas Park!  of course I go to the coffee shop in Borders, but I also heard Borders is closing stores. Any word on that?
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: John Prester on July 23, 2008, 09:51:45 PM
This article in today's NY Times today about plans to close a Newark, NJ Starbuck's is pretty interesting.  Funny how some were/are opposed to the one in JH, yet in Newark, they're actually campaigning to keep theirs!   

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/23/nyregion/23starbucks.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=newark%20starbuck&st=cse&oref=slogin

Don't know a good thing until it's gone I suppose......

Some interesting comments:

“It’s the only nice place on this street,” said Jorge Espana, a 70-year old retiree who comes to Starbucks twice a week from the other side of town. He pointed down Broad Street, a busy shopping thoroughfare dominated by nail salons and fast-food restaurants. On Monday afternoon, the Starbucks was packed with customers. Mr. Espana sat near a window.

Starbucks “is important for me,” he said. “It’s important for a lot of people.”

His fellow patrons reflected a slice of Newark, the locals and commuters who work in the city’s slowly recovering downtown, where there are few places, apart from the Starbucks, to sit and have coffee.
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One regular, Nijim Muddaththir, runs a food cart a few blocks away. “All the guys from the mosque come here,” Mr. Muddaththir said. “It’s our meeting place.”

Robert Brozon had just missed his friends, a regular gathering of social workers.

“I was shocked that with the revitalization, with the face-lift here, they would remove the Starbucks,” he said. “I’m confused about what message they’re trying to send.”
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: spanishfish on July 26, 2008, 10:49:42 AM
If the JH Starbucks rent is $17k, I estimate they would need to sell 13,000 of their $4 cups of specialty drinks each month in order to stay in business. That's 433 cups each day. Is that even possible?
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Shelby2 on July 26, 2008, 10:59:07 AM
I didn't take time to think through those numbers, but I wanted to point out that many people buy pastries and desserts and coffee beans as well, so that could help bring the income up. 
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: eddiestjohns on July 26, 2008, 11:44:04 AM
If the JH Starbucks rent is $17k, I estimate they would need to sell 13,000 of their $4 cups of specialty drinks each month in order to stay in business. That's 433 cups each day. Is that even possible?

Why did you use 13,000 cups?  in coffee alone that would be $52,000 a month in sales.  Were you factoring in other costs?  I do think it is possible to sell 13,000 cups.  if you assume a 30 day month and if the store is open 12 hours a day it equates to 36 cups an hour.  A lot of coffee but definitely possible.  But as Shelby said they buy more than just coffee.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: spanishfish on July 26, 2008, 12:15:37 PM
I'm assuming that in order to pay for their rent and other expenses (supplies, salaries, insurance, etc) they need to make three times what the rent is in order to stay in business. It's just a guess based on what I know of running other types of (non-retail) businesses.

I'm using $4 as the "average" (again a guess) cost of espresso drinks and food. It might actually be more than that, which would mean they'd need to sell more than 433 items per day. The coffee beans would help definitely since they are more than $10/bag I believe.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Chuckster on September 05, 2008, 01:48:08 PM
I noticed that Starbucks has launched a new breakfast menu intended to be healthier than the traditional offering of breakfast pastries.  Among the new items is the "Perfect Oatmeal".   The website's description of the oatmeal is as follows:

"Perfect Oatmeal 100% whole-grain goodness finished with your choice of dried fruit, nut medley or brown sugar."

Has anyone tried the oatmeal yet?  With the fall season upon us, this seems like a nice option to have when I'm in the mood for oatmeal and want to head outdoors for a quick breakfast.

Also new to the menu are the Fruit Stella, Chewy Fruit & Nut Bar, Multigrain Roll, Apple Bran Muffin and Power Protein Plate.  Other than the muffin, none of these items really excite me that much.

New breakfast menu at Starbucks (http://www.starbucks.com/retail/nutrition_freshfood.asp)
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: abee on September 07, 2008, 07:45:51 PM
http://consumerist.com/5045682/starbucks-new-perfect-oatmeal-loved-by-cat
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: civita on October 08, 2008, 01:40:20 AM

Check out this story about the incredible amount of water Starbucks is wasting every day.


http://abcnews.go.com/International/SmartHome/story?id=5964908&page=1
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: ShinjukuBaby on October 08, 2008, 01:55:38 PM
I saw that, civita.  It's really disgusting. :tickedoff:
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: crocketnyc on November 03, 2008, 12:21:16 AM
The story about Starbucks wasting water was written without the person doing his or her homework.  Starbucks and every coffee shop has to pay for water.  So why do you think they are using water?  It is because they are required to by health departments around the world.  The water is used to clean the utensils between every drink.  Running water is used in high volume ice cream shops as well.  If you ever worked in a restaurant or food service, you would not complain about the water used. 
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: abee on November 03, 2008, 08:45:19 PM
Starbucks is offering a free cuppa to people who voted tomorrow... if you need extra incentive!  :smitten:
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: rs011885 on November 03, 2008, 09:48:11 PM
Or are they?
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aIBd9wa0Xh7U&refer=us
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Aronan on November 03, 2008, 09:54:04 PM
Other than severe caffeine over load, what's to stop some one from going from Starbucks to Starbukcs all day tomorrow saying tyhey voted ? (if indeed Sbux follows through on its promise) 
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: abee on November 03, 2008, 11:04:43 PM
It's kind of an interesting legal question, because the advertisement just said "Tell us you voted," which doesn't require proof of voting- and it does also imply that you can hit up several starbucks. They might be able to get around any "exchange of voting for goods or services" based on that alone.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: toddg on November 03, 2008, 11:22:21 PM
If I see some unusually caffeinated people tomorrow, now I'll know why!
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: ECG on November 04, 2008, 09:21:35 AM
Seriously, folks. If they gave away 1000 cups, or 10,000 would they go broke? No, but the drinkers would get their exercise walking from place to place. And they would have voted. All together a win-win situation.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Griswold Contessa on November 14, 2008, 08:21:08 PM
I was quite happy without Starbucks............Those baristas and their "coffee speak" drive me nuts.  I must say my fresh brewed coffee is just as good, less money and above all else more real and less fake thank you very MUCH!
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Chuckster on July 17, 2009, 01:31:17 PM
Starbucks is testing a new concept at some of its Seattle stores.  If all goes well, Starbucks fans in other states may be ordering a Venti sized wine glass.

From The New York Post:

STARBUCKS TO SELL BEER AND WINE (http://www.nypost.com/seven/07172009/news/nationalnews/starbucks_to_sell_beer_and_wine_179816.htm)
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Griswold Contessa on July 17, 2009, 01:38:40 PM
I guess due to the economy these are desparate times and Starbuck's appears to be trying to keep their head above water by offering alcohol on their menu............I wish them luck!
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: ECG on July 17, 2009, 06:40:53 PM
Good luck with that Liquor License application. Next door to a bar?

Interesting to watch the outcome.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Chuckster on September 29, 2009, 03:08:18 PM
Every time I turn around, Starbucks seem to come up with some new plan to promote business.  This time it's instant coffee.  I saw the sign on their window yesterday advertising Via, their new brand of the instant stuff.

According to the CNNMoney.com article below, Starbucks has been having trouble competing with rivals Dunkin Donuts and McDonalds.

Starbucks instant coffee unveiled (http://money.cnn.com/2009/09/29/news/companies/Starbucks_Via/?postversion=2009092914)
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Shelby2 on September 29, 2009, 04:10:55 PM
Every time I turn around, Starbucks seem to come up with some new plan to promote business.  This time it's instant coffee.  I saw the sign on their window yesterday advertising Via, their new brand of the instant stuff.

According to the CNNMoney.com article below, Starbucks has been having trouble competing with rivals Dunkin Donuts and McDonalds.

Starbucks instant coffee unveiled (http://money.cnn.com/2009/09/29/news/companies/Starbucks_Via/?postversion=2009092914)

I understand why they would want to enter this market, as I noticed in Colombia that instant coffee is extremely popular, and therefore must be in many other countries as well.  But I don't get the pricing option which is Via is sold in packs of three cup-sized servings for $2.95 or $9.95 for a 12 pack. That makes for a cost of $1 per cup, which is Starbucks' cheapest option.

If you are buying a cup in a Starbucks either to go or to drink there, why would you need a 3pack?  And if you are buying the instant grounds to take home, I don't really believe that the $1 a cup is cheaper than brewing Starbucks coffee at home.  Am I wrong?  I actually do buy Starbucks beans and grind them at home and it seems to me that at the rate of two cups a day, my grounds last about 5-7 days -- this is for a $11 - $12 bag of beans.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: abee on September 29, 2009, 07:25:27 PM
I saw this advertised awhile ago. I would be willing to try something like this to bring to work- We don't have a coffee maker there, nor a kitchen type facility that would work to keep the coffee maker clean. When we did have a coffee maker, it was just gross. However, we do have a fridge where I could stash some milk (assuming that I'd remember to ditch it at the end of the week) and it's a lot cheaper than getting some drip coffee on my way to work, which is my current habit.

I guess the three pack would be like a sample pack? It would suck to pay $10 for 12 cups and not like it- they'll probably sell a lot more initially by selling a 3 pack for $3.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Chuckster on September 30, 2009, 10:25:33 PM
The New York Daily News get preliminary reactions to Starbucks' new instant coffee, Via....by the way, not good.  I'm not a fan of instant coffee, but this product has peaked my interest.  I'll have to give it a try.

Starbucks Via instant coffee gets lukewarm reviews in New York debut (http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/food/2009/09/30/2009-09-30_instant_starbucks_cup_o_mud.html)

Question for Shelby2:  Is the Colombian instant being prepared cafe con leche style?  I find that I can tolerate instant better when I dissolve the coffee in a mug of hot milk rather than just adding boiled water.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Chuckster on December 09, 2009, 03:42:20 PM
Hey, I just noticed that Shelby2 never answered my question above, but we'll let that slide for now.  Here's more interesting stuff.  ;)

The Brooklyn Heights Blog reports that their local Starbucks has added what's being called a "Slapuccino" to their beverage menu.  Apparently, an angry customer slapped a waiting dad on the head because said dad's baby wouldn't stop fidgeting.  

Dad Slapped at Starbucks: Brooklyn Heights Justice or Just Plain Crazy? (http://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/15047)

This is crazy and so wrong.   ::)  If this story is true, I would imagine that the slapper must have been teetering on the edge to do what he did. There's really no excuse though.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: ECG on December 09, 2009, 09:23:22 PM
That Slapper (head, not girl of the evening) should have been banned from caffeine!
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: ECG on December 09, 2009, 09:28:36 PM
just finished the article. all I can say is it wouldn't have happened on 37th Avenue. :coolsmiley:

Hilarious in a NY kind of way.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Marlene on March 04, 2010, 09:58:32 PM
Group lobbies to ban guns from Starbucks

http://www.king5.com/news/business/One-shot-or-two-Group-lobbies-to-ban-guns-from-Starbucks-84142442.html
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Griswold Contessa on March 05, 2010, 12:21:05 AM
Nothing comes between me and my GLOCK!


http://www.king5.com/news/business/One-shot-or-two-Group-lobbies-to-ban-guns-from-Starbucks-84142442.html
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Group lobbies to ban guns from Starbucks

Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Marlene on March 05, 2010, 01:16:23 AM
Love the new Royal Doulton Teaware and after dinner Shotware.  
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Marlene on March 11, 2010, 09:24:41 PM
Copied from jhfamilies:

"Hello fellow JHer's
Does anyone have information about the incident at Starbucks?  As I was coming home, I saw the police, yellow tape and busted window....
 
Just curious"
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: divanatrix on March 12, 2010, 07:11:37 AM
I'm curious too.  I was already home from work, but my bf was on his way home from work when the ambulance/firetrucks were there.  He was exhausted so he came right home instead of investigating.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: bellabella on March 12, 2010, 07:46:26 AM
wow I didn't notice and I was around there. Did anyone hear about the pervert in the forest hills starbucks?
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: divanatrix on March 15, 2010, 07:01:32 AM
Seriously - anyone know what happened at *our* Starbucks last week? One of their windows is boarded up...
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Mike V on March 15, 2010, 08:52:23 AM
I know someone who was in Starbuck's at about 8:30PM when the window shattered.  It simply shattered on it's own.  No person caused it.  The fire department arrived soon after and ordered everyone out which resulted in the store closing.  They boarded the window.  No injuries.   
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: divanatrix on March 15, 2010, 09:02:00 AM
Oh that's weird!  Similar thing happened in my office building a few months back.  Happy to hear that nobody was injured!  I wish they'd fix the window though - not pretty. lol
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: StevenGrey on March 15, 2010, 11:16:34 AM
Weird! (And here I was afraid that Hiram Monserrate walked by and "accidentally" shoved someone through the plate glass window.)  ;)
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: felixdls on March 25, 2010, 10:30:24 PM
STARBUCKS SUCKS. >:(
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: APG7714 on March 25, 2010, 10:50:27 PM
STARBUCKS SUCKS. >:(
Are you done ?
(lame  ::) )
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Emma on March 26, 2010, 02:51:29 PM
Someone ties up their dog in front of this Starbucks pretty much every morning, between 7 and 8 or so. The dog then proceeds to bark like crazy until his/her owner comes back out for her/him. It's a big dog with a big bark, and it can often be a long wait.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: ECG on March 26, 2010, 06:48:18 PM
And?
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: CRABBYPATTY on March 26, 2010, 06:58:57 PM
Don't HATE dog walking hipster need coffee too!!!  :2funny:
 
Someone ties up their dog in front of this Starbucks pretty much every morning, between 7 and 8 or so. The dog then proceeds to bark like crazy until his/her owner comes back out for her/him. It's a big dog with a big bark, and it can often be a long wait.
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: bellabella on March 27, 2010, 06:50:46 AM
Is the person leaving the dog and sitting inside or is it just a run in/out thing?
Title: Re: The Obligatory JH Starbucks Thread
Post by: Emma on March 27, 2010, 10:18:47 AM
Is the person leaving the dog and sitting inside or is it just a run in/out thing?

I'm not sure. I live close by, and the barking and crying sometimes wakes me up. It can go on for a long while, too. A couple of times, I've walked by and seen the dog-- it's a big white one. If I were his/her owner, I'd get my coffee and THEN take her for a walk (or vice versa). The dog is obviously very distressed and it's inconsiderate to everyone in at least a 1-block radius of the place.