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Title: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Chuckster on May 07, 2008, 10:30:22 PM
On a walk earlier tonight, I happened to notice that we have 2 more empty storefronts.  The first one is on 37th Avenue next door to the thrift shop, and the other one is the old party goods store that was situated next door to the buxom mannequins also on 37th.  Hey!  I thought the mannequins were moving to 82nd?
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: ECG on May 07, 2008, 11:01:33 PM
The busty mannequin store has a For Rent sign on it. Is it for the party store - which isn't all That old. There are  a few more empty store fronts on Northern between 82 and 79th.

One store owner on 37th, a small store, told a friend his rent is $7000/mo. Wow! Not so good in this economy, is it?
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: toddg on May 08, 2008, 09:45:22 AM
I'm not sure if this is one of the storefronts you mentioned, Chuckster, but I haven't seen Lady Algene Jewelers open in the past couple of years.

On the flip side, we'll be having three new eateries opening soon: Delhi Heights in the old Kababbish space on 74th Street, Original American Chicken where 30 Minute Photo and the Legal Documents store once were, and another Indian restaurant where Baskin Robbins has stood empty for a while.  Hopefully there are more new ventures in the works.
Title: FYE closed
Post by: lpauls on June 25, 2008, 10:53:18 AM
I noticed this morning that FYE (For Your Entertainment) on 82nd street was shutting down.  Any insight on this, the space, etc?

Title: Re: FYE closed
Post by: ECG on June 25, 2008, 10:47:09 PM
Gee, another opportunity for ABC Stores to expand.
 ;D


Title: Re: FYE closed
Post by: Tigoillo on June 26, 2008, 12:06:52 PM
Along with the FYE being closed, there is a banner above the original ABC space that said that location is closing. So perhaps ABC won't be taking over all of 82nd Street! :D
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Chuckster on June 26, 2008, 11:18:08 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but the storefront next door to Tomo's on 37th Avenue is also empty.  Potential entrepreneurs take note!   ;)
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Aronan on June 28, 2008, 11:46:24 AM
Anyone know what's going up on Northern Blvd. between 72nd and 73rd ? Right next to Mark Twain. And, why it's taken so long ?
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: GregNYC on June 30, 2008, 02:43:24 PM
What about on Roosevelt Ave between 74th and 73rd St?
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: ECG on June 30, 2008, 03:12:31 PM
Roosevelt and 83rd?
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: toddg on June 30, 2008, 03:32:34 PM
We have threads on a couple of these topics:

73rd & Roosevelt (http://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?topic=1091.0)

83rd & Roosevelt (http://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?topic=225.0)

...but not necessarily any answers!
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: RandeeDawn on June 30, 2008, 09:15:30 PM
On the flip side, we'll be having three new eateries opening soon: Delhi Heights in the old Kababbish space on 74th Street, Original American Chicken where 30 Minute Photo and the Legal Documents store once were, and another Indian restaurant where Baskin Robbins has stood empty for a while.  Hopefully there are more new ventures in the works.

Nuts on the Baskin Robbins part. I'd been hoping the refurbishing was to re-open the BR. Not that I don't love Indian food, but I'd rather hoped to have an ice cream alternative to the big markets where I can buy the stuff and get it home before it melts.

Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: JoeinQueens on June 30, 2008, 10:11:30 PM
Anyone know if the Pizza & Bakery that had work stopped will ever open?
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: JoeinQueens on July 02, 2008, 10:31:20 PM
The store that was the former Medusa on 82nd Street is having some construction done.  It looks like another clothing store.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: orzabelle on July 03, 2008, 09:38:57 AM
looks like the empty North Fork has a new realtor sign up (not Futterman  - that sign is down).  Maybe the landlord is truly looking for a tenant now?
Title: FYE Closed
Post by: JHICON on July 04, 2008, 10:50:00 PM
So, the FYE is closed, and instead of it becoming something interesting there building a another clothes place or like it says on the sign "Ropa Fina" Fine clothing... eghh...

(moderator note: merged from separate thread)
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Greentea822 on July 07, 2008, 01:02:29 PM
and the funny thing is that Dosa palace (73rd just north of 37th ave) is open again - Dosa Place (or visa versa, but you get the point).  the sweet shop next door also looks close to re-opening, but that too just got refurbished; looks like the same stuff inside.

I still wish we had a nice fresh fish market. 
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: toddg on August 13, 2008, 09:57:10 PM
After being closed for several months after failing a health inspection, the name has finally been removed from the front of Fiesta Mexicana at 75-02 Roosevelt Ave.  So at long last, this place is officially gone.

A moment of silence, please, for the passing of a short-lived gem.




Thank you.  Fiesta Mexicana was excellent, for a couple of months after it opened.  It served an upscale style of Mexican cuisine, and had sharp flavors and fresh ingredients.  For a while, a sign on its window bragged that they served the "Best Posole in Town!" and if you tasted it, it was easy to believe.  But then the chef left (later to resurface in Astoria (http://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?topic=279.0)), and the restaurant went into a sad decline.

On the positive side, we now have an attractive and prominent restaurant space available across the street from the subway station.  It's a perfect location for an exciting newcomer.  French Bistro, anyone?
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Chuckster on August 13, 2008, 10:02:03 PM
On the positive side, we now have an attractive and prominent restaurant space available across the street from the subway station.  It's a perfect location for an exciting newcomer.  French Bistro, anyone?

Todd, do you really think a French bistro would fare well on Roosevelt Avenue?  That would be a change of pace!
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: toddg on August 13, 2008, 10:22:09 PM
Never having run a business or invested in one successfully, I can't pretend that I have any idea.  But a wide range of good restaurants are thriving to the west on Roosevelt, to the north on 74th, and to the south on Broadway and on 74th.  I don't know why the part of Roosevelt just east of the subway station is a dead zone for good restaurants, but I don't see why it has to be that way.  This particular corner is more visible and receives more foot traffic than virtually anywhere else, and should be able to support a crowd from breakfast until the wee hours.  A bistro or other midrange restaurant would definitely be a change of character for this intersection, but if done right I think it would certainly be supported by both residents and visitors alike.  If it serves food that is distinctive, then it will also receive a steady stream of customers via the subway, just like Sripraphai.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Chuckster on August 13, 2008, 10:40:01 PM
I agree that a restaurant like Sripraphai would do well on this corner, but then that wouldn't be all that distinctive from what else is nearby.  We already have a few Thai places in the neighborhood.  What separates Srip is the continued fanfare that it receives from many New Yorkers, not just Queens residents.  Generally speaking, people are willing to travel for good food, but would that apply to a square peg in a round hole?  That's how I would perceive a French bistro on Roosevelt.  At least for now that is.

Your scenario kind of reminds me of Limoncello, the Italian restaurant located south of Roosevelt in the 80s.  People seem to be surprised that there's an Italian restaurant in that part of the neighborhood.  I wonder if the locale affects the restaurant's business.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: toddg on September 12, 2008, 10:23:26 PM
It looks like Tierras Colombianas at 82-18 Roosevelt has closed.  Big new restaurant space available!
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Chuckster on January 02, 2009, 01:20:27 AM
Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but it appears that construction on the building adjacent to the Mark Twain Diner on Northern Blvd. has been completed...at least the facade.  It looks like a mixed use building that will probably have some office space available.  The color and design reminds me of some of the smaller office buildings that are found in Southern Florida.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: liam0925 on January 02, 2009, 08:02:37 PM
it appears that construction on the building adjacent to the Mark Twain Diner on Northern Blvd. has been completed...at least the facade.    The color and design reminds me of some of the smaller office buildings that are found in Southern Florida.
I drove passed it this afternoon and dubbed it the Mustard House :2funny:
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: JoeinQueens on January 03, 2009, 12:01:18 PM
is Limoncello still around?
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: liam0925 on January 03, 2009, 01:30:48 PM
is Limoncello still around?

Yes, I just called.  They answered and are opened for business.  Mangia bene.   8)
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: liam0925 on January 10, 2009, 10:53:58 PM
I followed up on last week's call and actually went to Limoncello's for dinner this evening--they are very much  open and in business.  This was my second time there and like the first, it was great.  After a shared appetizer of calamari and an antipasto I had the Chicken Scarp, which is very tasty.  My friends had the skirt steak and a striped bass.  We thoroughly enjoyed the evening and recommend it to all.  Happily the rumor of its closing was just that, this place is very much open and worthy of a visit.  Mangia bene. 
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: JHICON on January 15, 2009, 01:02:46 PM
So, the other day i was walking around and i noticed since tierra's colombiana's closed they have already put up a new sign called tierras ricas (I guess it will be something like a bakery/restaurant, like SEBA SEBA) or something like that but the thing is, it's only half of what the original space of the restaurant use to be, the other half is up for sale. On another note Bank of America is looking good (even though there stock dropped today). Now to wonder is who is looking  to lease the KB Toy's space? Once they move. Is this the part where we all think of amazing stores that could open up?  and than we get heart broken by seeing some cheap tacky boutique with skanky clothes, maybe a vitamin shop, or maybe it can become the MEGA 99 cent Store the biggest one in Jackson Heights because you know how much we all love to shop there. lol.
Title: Kay-Bee Toys
Post by: bs96 on January 16, 2009, 04:32:43 PM
Does anyone know what's in store for the now defunct Kay-Bee Toys location?
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: toddg on January 16, 2009, 06:00:05 PM
Hey bs96, welcome back! 

No idea.  It's very sad to see Kay-Bee go.  The store is closing not because the individual location was unsuccessful, but because the chain as a whole has filed for bankruptcy.  It's a great space and hopefully will attract something of value to the neighborhood, despite the weak economy.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: JoeinQueens on January 16, 2009, 10:45:02 PM
The Photo place near the corner of 82nd & 37th is gone too as is the small store next to the shoe store on 37th between 82nd & 83rd.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Shelby2 on January 17, 2009, 12:11:20 PM
The Photo place near the corner of 82nd & 37th is gone too as is the small store next to the shoe store on 37th between 82nd & 83rd.

I think the small store you are talking about (Colombian jeans) merged with the shoe store.  So now there are shoes and jeans under one roof and the tiny half-store storefront that used to have just the jeans is now empty.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Shelby2 on February 08, 2009, 04:47:42 PM
I think the small store you are talking about (Colombian jeans) merged with the shoe store.  So now there are shoes and jeans under one roof and the tiny half-store storefront that used to have just the jeans is now empty.

The space that used to have Colombian jeans now is a place that seems to sell health insurance.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Chuckster on February 27, 2009, 12:45:33 AM
How long has it been since they closed the busty mannequin apparel shop on 37th Avenue?  The place is vacant...just noticed it recently.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: CALIFORNIA on February 27, 2009, 10:55:35 PM
Not sure when it closed, but I didn't like that store.  They sold bootleg Armani Exchange, Abercrombie, and Dolce & Gabanna stuff, which looked like it would fall apart after one washing, but they tried to sell it at 5th Avenue prices.  I don't mind if it is fake, as long as it cheap, but they were just ripping people off!  Maybe that's why they are not here anymore!
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Chuckster on March 12, 2009, 11:15:28 PM
Little India Emporium, located on the corner of 75th Street and 37th Avenue has a listing on the Trulia real estate website.  It appears that the business may be for sale.

Trulia (http://www.trulia.com/property/1075753695-75-01-37th-Ave-Queens-NY-11372)
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Shelby2 on March 13, 2009, 12:07:43 AM
I noticed a sign for a pharmacy on the door of the space to the right of the Japanese restaurant Tomo.  Windows were papered over when I walked by, so maybe they are renovating/moving in.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Shelby2 on March 13, 2009, 04:55:02 PM
The huge beauty store on 37th Ave between 83rd and 84th (next to the Army Navy store) has a sign saying "closed" in the doorway and all the stock is being pulled off the shelves.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Blu on March 14, 2009, 04:57:34 PM
sadly folks, the situation in JH is bleak and the landlords most of which don't live the neighborhood at all aren't helping.  much of the square footage available is on building that have been paid YEARS ago, yet landlords are sticking to charging what they believe to be market rates, but in fact are impossible rents for many if not ALL of the business' along 37th Roosevelt and Northern.  northern is a little more protected because building ownership is more varied and some of the stores are run by the building owners, but on 37th and Roosevelt entire blocks are owned by single landlords or community trusts.  in either case i worry about the resolve and relative deep pockets shops are going to need to stay afloat.  in the meantime i encourage everyone to by local as much as possible, as tempting as buying at the large chain stores is, buy local and keep the community thriving... empty shops leads to more despair and greater insecurity.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: francis on March 15, 2009, 12:00:11 AM
I try to do most of my shopping on 37Th Avenue to support local businesses, but have to admit that many of  the local stores don't support me. It true that the rents are exceedingly high. It's  interesting to think of  the many places which wouldn't seem to forefill a need for the people living here but  are still some how  miraculously able to meet the rents. Is the need for a "thong " store greater than say a quality children's toy store?? How do such places survive??  It always puzzles me.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: orzabelle on March 15, 2009, 10:09:42 AM
I try to do most of my shopping on 37Th Avenue to support local businesses, but have to admit that many of  the local stores don't support me. It true that the rents are exceedingly high. It's  interesting to think of  the many places which wouldn't seem to forefill a need for the people living here but  are still some how  miraculously able to meet the rents. Is the need for a "thong " store greater than say a quality children's toy store?? How do such places survive??  It always puzzles me.

I agree - other than Inner Peace and the health food store, there is very little I want to buy in the neighborhood. I wish it weren't so, but there it is.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: orzabelle on March 16, 2009, 11:20:43 AM
Oh, and espresso77   ;D
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: michaelb on March 16, 2009, 12:36:35 PM
I don't understand the demands for higher quality stores being combined with demands for low commercial rents.  Aren't these contradictions? Higher quality stores go hand-in-hand with higher earning customers which commands higher rents.

The complaint isn't about "thong" stores, but thong stores that aren't Victoria's Secret.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: CALIFORNIA on March 16, 2009, 02:09:33 PM
It will be a long, long time before we see anything like Victoria's Secret, Gap, Banana Republic, Pottery Barn, Crate & Barrell anywhere near 37th Avenue, but they might come some day!
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: julesnyc on March 16, 2009, 03:17:38 PM
Quote
I don't understand the demands for higher quality stores being combined with demands for low commercial rents.  Aren't these contradictions? Higher quality stores go hand-in-hand with higher earning customers which commands higher rents.

I don't think it's a contradiction.  A store or restaurant with a new concept for the neighborhood needs time to find its place and its customer base - and high rents are an impediment to someone who needs a few months to get their business going.  Also, restaurants in particular are run with very tight margins, so a lower rent is necessary to stay in business.  And (here I will qualify my statement by saying that my husband and I own espresso 77), I would disagree that high quality has to equal a chain store...
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Aronan on March 16, 2009, 03:25:47 PM
I'm not sure why we need the chain stores on 37th ave. just so we can look like Austin or Steinway Streets ? With both those districts so close it would seem to me that smaller unique stores that have a closer tie to the community are what makes Jackson Heihgts Unique and a little special.  Character is just as important as convenience and these retailers would have a negative impact on the character of our lovely little neighborhood.  Secondly, if you think we have congestion problems now, just wait until these big name retailers rear their ugly heads.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: orzabelle on March 16, 2009, 04:58:40 PM
Another issue is that the stores here keep having to close - maybe local retailers don't do their research before opening yet another thong shop...
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: julesnyc on March 16, 2009, 05:13:18 PM
Thong Shop - try saying that 5 times fast!

Ok, now that we have done that - can we all agree not to say "thong shop" again?
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: orzabelle on March 16, 2009, 05:14:56 PM
Thong Shop - try saying that 5 times fast!

Ok, now that we have done that - can we all agree not to say "thong shop" again?

I can't make any promises, because it's TOO SATISFYING to say.  ;)
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: julesnyc on March 16, 2009, 05:18:52 PM
Maybe when Espresso 77 comes out with our line of signature flip-flops, we too can be a thong shop.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Aronan on March 16, 2009, 05:37:51 PM
I think there's a great marketing potential for E77 Thongs : )
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Marlene on March 17, 2009, 12:15:44 AM
Great potential indeed.  Check these out.  :smiley6600: 
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: sulvndnr on March 21, 2009, 09:58:08 PM
I rest my case.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: petster on March 23, 2009, 06:04:11 PM
I don't think it's about having chain stores like Victoria Secret line 37th Avenue to replace the authentic mom and pop stores...just about stores which are legitimate....serving the the real needs of the community.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Shelby2 on April 06, 2009, 11:20:51 PM
I noticed that the large frame store on 37th between 84th and 85th now has a sign saying "closing sale" on the window.  I think this means that once it's closed we will need a revised edition of the  cartoon map of JH  (http://drawger.com/heatley/?article_id=5128)

That makes two really large storefronts within 2 blocks that are closing (the health and beauty supply between 83rd and 84th is the other one).  Anyone know what the plans are for either of those spaces?



(EDIT:  False alarm!  The frame store is not closing.  Read following posts by other members...)
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Chuckster on April 06, 2009, 11:21:58 PM
Is that the place named Europa?
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Shelby2 on April 06, 2009, 11:26:12 PM
Is that the place named Europa?

yes.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: v70cat on April 07, 2009, 08:33:45 AM
It would be great if the Gap opened on 82nd Street. 


Another restaurant on 37th Ave would also be nice.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: APG7714 on April 07, 2009, 12:05:03 PM
We all like mom and pop shops , but in reality who could count the ones left in one hand in Jackson Heights , there all pretty much gone unfortunately Jackson Heights is not what it once was , i think the only way to revitalize our retail strips and get back on the top of the retail game is to have national chains enter the neighborhood , new times call for new changes and i think now is the time since we have so many open retail spaces . Unfortunately , were in a recession now and national chains are downsizing in general. But, if national chains are present soon , were going to end up with all of those crappy thong shops , 2 are OK , but most of our shopping retail consists of it , ew . Also , the commercial property owners are not collaborating with those exorbitant monthly rates, also Jackson Heights has the demographics to support it and they will ptrtty up the strips like 82nd st and 37th ave
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: CALIFORNIA on April 07, 2009, 02:11:41 PM
The video rental/electronics/lottery ticket store next door to Agua Clara has a big FOR RENT sign in it.  Not sure if that is on the way out too.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Chuckster on April 07, 2009, 02:14:32 PM
The video rental/electronics/lottery ticket store next door to Agua Clara has a big FOR RENT sign in it.  Not sure if that is on the way out too.

That's Flagship!  Wow!  My husband and I were talking about that place recently and were wondering how long they would last in this economy.  What a shame if they were to go out of business.  One the main guys that has worked there for ages is really sweet and very helpful.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: v70cat on April 07, 2009, 05:08:53 PM
That's Flagship!  Wow!  My husband and I were talking about that place recently and were wondering how long they would last in this economy.  What a shame if they were to go out of business.  One the main guys that has worked there for ages is really sweet and very helpful.

That is to bad; the place did seem big for what it sold.  The location would make a great hardware store.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: francis on April 07, 2009, 09:29:55 PM
I was wondering if anyone knew if Gothic cabinetry was moving to the new space solely or expanding the space that they originally have. If they are expanding, I hope they make the ouside awning congruent to what they already have.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: earbears on April 08, 2009, 03:14:22 PM
There are many empty stores on Norther also. The Glass & Mirror place and the Raw Furniture store (next door to each other) between 84th and 85th are both empty. Both are big, double spaces do its really noticeable.

There are other scattered empty place also on Northern in the 70's and 80's.

Landlords need to become more realistic in the commercial rent area. I can't imagine it is better to have an empty store than just lower the rents.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: JoeinQueens on April 09, 2009, 11:53:46 AM
In the former cell phone store on 82nd & 37th next to the bank, they removed the sign and on there is a faded inscription with the first letters as L A S

Does anyone remember this place?
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Miss Chatelaine on April 11, 2009, 07:48:04 PM
I noticed that the large frame store on 37th between 84th and 85th now has a sign saying "closing sale" on the window. 

Thank you for posting this!  I had something to get framed so I scooted in.  It turns out that the framing store isn't closing, just "Franco's Corner," the part in front that sells Nativity scenes, and small vintage pieces, etc. I will miss that mini-store but am glad Europa will still be there :) 
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: jsh on April 11, 2009, 07:58:09 PM
Thank you for posting this!  I had something to get framed so I scooted in.  It turns out that the framing store isn't closing, just "Franco's Corner," the part in front that sells Nativity scenes, and small vintage pieces, etc. I will miss that mini-store but am glad Europa will still be there :) 

And thank YOU for posting that!  Glad to hear I can still take framing jobs there!
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: jimbo in jhts on April 16, 2009, 01:53:01 PM
The problem with encouraging any new and different type of stores are the rents being charged.  The Starbucks location is paying in the neighborhood of $10,000 per month.  Or at least that was what they were asking before Starbucks took it over.  It is almost impossible to make anything work in the neighborhood as long as the rents are so high.  There are so many things we could use like: restaurants other than Indian or Latino. Great as they are there are too many.  How about a nice casual Italian restaurant or a place for a good glass of wine and a salad or burger. We keep gravitating to other neighborhoods because our offerings are too limited.  Look at Astoria and the different restaurants.  J Hts can do the same if the rents weren't so prohibitive. Maybe landlords would be willing to take a lower rent and a % of the profits?
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: jnwarren on April 16, 2009, 02:35:18 PM
I'm fairly new to the neighborhood.  Why are the rents so high?
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Chuckster on April 16, 2009, 02:45:05 PM
This is pure speculation on my part, but maybe landlords tried to capitalize on the real estate boom of previous years. 
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Shelby2 on April 16, 2009, 03:51:00 PM
I'm fairly new to the neighborhood.  Why are the rents so high?

I just revived an old thread  How can businesses afford the rent on 37th Ave  (http://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?topic=84.0) which probably doesn't answer the question (I didn't re-read it to see) but it might have a few interesting points in it.
Title: Re: Kay-Bee Toys
Post by: Chuckster on April 18, 2009, 01:08:17 AM
Does anyone know what's in store for the now defunct Kay-Bee Toys location?

I walked by there recently and noticed some workmen inside.  It looked like they were cleaning up.  Any updates?
Title: Re: Kay-Bee Toys
Post by: Shelby2 on April 19, 2009, 06:10:52 PM
I walked by there recently and noticed some workmen inside.  It looked like they were cleaning up.  Any updates?

It became a cheap clothing store -- the same kind as about 10 other places in the neighborhood.  On that note, a cheap clothing store on 37th Ave between 84th and 85th has both a "grand opening" banner strung above the door, and "going out of business" signs in the windows.  Sad.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Shelby2 on April 27, 2009, 11:29:21 PM
An "As Seen on TV" products store moved into one of the empty spaces on 37th between 85th and 87th (can't remember which block exactly).  However, it does not look like it's there to stay, as no attempt was made to make it look like an actual store, and there are still "for rent" signs in the window.

And disappointingly, the pharmacy that's set to go into the space next to Tomo could not even be bothered to put the vinyl letters and numbers stating their store hours on the glass straight.  For me that's a really bad sign for a pharmacy that you want to be able to depend on to be accurate and fastidious since presumably you are trusting them with your medications. 

There are so many things I don't understand about retail here.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: CALIFORNIA on April 28, 2009, 09:24:24 AM
I saw that odd "As Seen On TV" store too.  I couldn't figure out if it was coming soon or had just left!  Definitely would not bring business too the pharmacy you described.  One thing I do notice about our neighborhood though is that there are many independent pharmacies.  In many places they are rare, having been taken over by the large chains. I like the personal service of an indpendent pharmacy and you usually don't have to wait in line.
Title: Re: Kay-Bee Toys
Post by: divanatrix on April 28, 2009, 10:38:57 AM
It became a cheap clothing store -- the same kind as about 10 other places in the neighborhood.  On that note, a cheap clothing store on 37th Ave between 84th and 85th has both a "grand opening" banner strung above the door, and "going out of business" signs in the windows.  Sad.

Ugh, yeah, another hoochie store was soooo needed...  ::)  Major disappointment.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Shelby2 on April 28, 2009, 10:41:52 AM
I saw that odd "As Seen On TV" store too.  I couldn't figure out if it was coming soon or had just left! 

Maybe it is coming soon and that's why it looked like it was in chaos.  For some reason I thought it had already arrived and was just using the storefront space in a temporary sort of way - like the temporary florist that popped up on 82nd St. next to the optical shop on the corner of 82nd/37th around Valentine's Day.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: CALIFORNIA on April 28, 2009, 11:55:53 AM
I am very eager to see what the facade of the new Bank of America on 82nd will look like.  Did they have to go through any design review process to ensure it is in keeping with the historic fabric of the street?  Has anyone seen renderings?
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Chuckster on April 28, 2009, 06:42:54 PM
I am very eager to see what the facade of the new Bank of America on 82nd will look like.  Did they have to go through any design review process to ensure it is in keeping with the historic fabric of the street?  Has anyone seen renderings?

I'm going to hope that they do have to undergo some type of review process with the Landmarks Preservation Commission.  From the initial documentation that's been filed with the NYC DOB, it appears that they were issued a permit in early April for the installation of a heavy duty sidewalk shed for remedial repairs to the site.  I noticed they also submitted a request to waive Landmarks approval for the construction of the shed because it's a temporary structure.  Hey, maybe that's an indication that at least they have the LPC in mind....unlike the ABC Discounts store that still has a plastic banner waving over the front.  ::)
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Chuckster on November 18, 2009, 11:28:41 PM
Well, it looks like the neighborhood may soon have a restaurant space available.  I just came across this post regarding Deshi Biryani on 37th Avenue.  It's listed as being for sale.  Would this mean that a new owner would have to operate as Deshi Biryani also?  Just thinking that this may be a possible location for Le Gamin to scout.

Restaurants for Sale (http://www.restaurants-for-sale.com/newsite/rro/listingview.asp?id=14530&utm_source=RFSO)
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: dssjh on November 19, 2009, 07:05:20 AM
that's too bad about deshi. the food was really amazing when they opened -- the fish dishes were off the chart good and they had a flair for bangladeshi dishes that you seldom saw anywhere else, done super home style. since reopening from renovations, things changed dramatically for the worse. resulting in the dropoff in business that (i guess) killed the place.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Shelby2 on January 15, 2010, 10:57:40 AM
The store with the Casa de Buster Brown sign out front and the Colombian jeans in the window between 82nd and 83rd has a huge "lost our lease" sign out front.  This storefront is to the right of the Jackson House (the diner).  To the left of the diner is the space that used to house the Gothic Cabinet Craft store, which has been vacant ever since it expanded and moved a few doors down. 



Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: madalyn on January 15, 2010, 11:16:10 AM
Oh NO!!!  Now where will I be able to buy "Levantacola" (lift your tail) jeans?????
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Ed on January 15, 2010, 01:03:43 PM
I just heard from an acquaintance that commercial real estate is leasing for around $64/sq foot on 37th Ave.; $6400 a month for a 20' x 50' space. Put utilities, build out, salaries, inventory, licenses/certification on top of that.

Ouch.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: bellabella on January 15, 2010, 02:35:37 PM
The store with the Casa de Buster Brown sign out front and the Colombian jeans in the window between 82nd and 83rd has a huge "lost our lease" sign out front.  This storefront is to the right of the Jackson House (the diner).  To the left of the diner is the space that used to house the Gothic Cabinet Craft store, which has been vacant ever since it expanded and moved a few doors down. 




Im surprised it has taken that long for them to close. I am sorry but they stopped selling buster brown (or any leather shoes) many many yrs ago I didn't know how they stayed so long I've never seen anyone in there
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Chuckster on February 02, 2010, 05:20:29 PM
So it's official... Flagship video on 35th Avenue is going out of business.  I just walked by and noticed that they have "going out of business" banners all over the windows.  They're also advertising the sale of store fixtures.

Along with The Cavalier (http://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?topic=4077.msg26512#msg26512), this will be another large empty space if not rented right away.  I wonder what the landlords have in mind.... other than spiking the rent, of course.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: francis on February 02, 2010, 10:11:52 PM
Doesn't  Community Board 3 have a say about what should or should not be placed at these locations? When whole blocks are being evacuated by landlards, it changes the quality of life for the entire neighborhood. Personally, I would hate to see 37Th Ave.turn into a strip for bars and late night activity. Any new businesses should know that 37Th Ave.falls within a historic district--so that people don't start destroying or altering the facades of these buildings.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: v70cat on February 02, 2010, 11:06:17 PM
So it's official... Flagship video on 35th Avenue is going out of business.  I just walked by and noticed that they have "going out of business" banners all over the windows.  They're also advertising the sale of store fixtures.

Along with The Cavalier (http://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?topic=4077.msg26512#msg26512), this will be another large empty space if not rented right away.  I wonder what the landlords have in mind.... other than spiking the rent, of course.

It is sad to see Flagship close but the concept of renting VCR tapes is over just like 8 track tapes.
The store is very large and is mostly vacant.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Chuckster on February 02, 2010, 11:32:39 PM
Doesn't  Community Board 3 have a say about what should or should not be placed at these locations? When whole blocks are being evacuated by landlards, it changes the quality of life for the entire neighborhood. Personally, I would hate to see 37Th Ave.turn into a strip for bars and late night activity. Any new businesses should know that 37Th Ave.falls within a historic district--so that people don't start destroying or altering the facades of these buildings.

I'm hoping that Flagship is not converted into a mini mall type of store where stalls or booths are rented out to different tenants under the same roof.  Considering that the rent may be high for this large space, a mini mall type of store is not unrealistic. :buck2:
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: normelrod on February 03, 2010, 12:14:37 AM
I wonder if landlords are holding out for big chain retailers. Those types of companies can afford higher rents, sign longer leases and generally stay in a location longer. They also take longer to actually decide to move into a location, which may be why landlords are willing to leave a space open for long periods of time. They're trying to land the big fish.

I'm guessing these big chains also do plenty of research before moving in. And like all of us who have been commenting, they probably see that rents don't fit the neighborhood.

Of course Starbucks moved in. So who knows?
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Chuckster on February 03, 2010, 12:19:03 AM
I wonder if landlords are holding out for big chain retailers. Those types of companies can afford higher rents, sign longer leases and generally stay in a location longer. They also take longer to actually decide to move into a location, which may be why landlords are willing to leave a space open for long periods of time. They're trying to land the big fish.

I'm guessing these big chains also do plenty of research before moving in. And like all of us who have been commenting, they probably see that rents don't fit the neighborhood.

Of course Starbucks moved in. So who knows?

What I'd like to see at the Flagship spot -- a bookstore.  Tired argument?   :-\
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Griswold Contessa on February 03, 2010, 07:32:18 AM
At this point many small bookstores are barely able to keep their heads above water that combined with rent that could reach upward to $10,000 a month IMHO a bookstore would not, could not survive there.  Also Amazon has made buying books easy and quite reasonable this along with an economy that's in the dumper has wreaked havoc on the small neighborhood bookstores.

What I'd like to see at the Flagship spot -- a bookstore.  Tired argument?   :-\
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: erospolitico on February 03, 2010, 04:16:42 PM
Doesn't  Community Board 3 have a say about what should or should not be placed at these locations? When whole blocks are being evacuated by landlards, it changes the quality of life for the entire neighborhood. Personally, I would hate to see 37Th Ave.turn into a strip for bars and late night activity. Any new businesses should know that 37Th Ave.falls within a historic district--so that people don't start destroying or altering the facades of these buildings.

Landlords can rent to whoever they want.  The business must conform to the zoning, landmarks, and other rules.

If they do not a variance must be requested, which is heard by Community Board 3, before it goes to the Borough President and the City.

If licencing is need, that usually also goes before the Community Board, depending on the license type.

Anything that is heard by the Community Board, is presented in a public hearing for community input.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: v70cat on February 03, 2010, 04:38:36 PM
What I'd like to see at the Flagship spot -- a bookstore.  Tired argument?   :-\

Most book store are closing, nice thought but hard to make the economics work.

In general America has to much retail space and on line retailers like Amazon are taking a larger share of the business.


Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Marlene on February 03, 2010, 08:56:52 PM
Hi everyone,

All the business ideas on this thread and others sound fabulous.  But who has the money?

According to the "rumors" on the avenue, the rent at Cavalier's was increased to $16K.  Could this be possible?
If you opened up a bookstore, how many books would you have to sell.   ::)

Best,   :smiley6600:
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: toddg on February 03, 2010, 10:36:42 PM
A couple of months ago, the owner of Flagship told me he has been looking to relocate to a smaller place nearby, but has had a difficult time finding something affordable.  Hopefully he'll be able to reopen soon.

There appear to be two storefronts being prepared for new tenants on the Trade Fair block between 75th and 76th Streets -- the fabric store, and the phone card store.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Marlene on February 04, 2010, 04:26:47 PM
Has everyone inundated our Council Member Daniel Dromm with the empty storefront concerns?

Best,   :smiley6600:
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: 77TH ST on February 04, 2010, 08:48:10 PM
I have just learned about the Cavilear closing....

Yes this is sad to see, I just wonder that if major retailers move in will that jack up the apartment rentals as well as the Co-ops/ Condos, and the storefront rents even more? Forest Hills apartments are through the roof.

Storefronts as well one person was asking for $20,000 per month yes that's right folks 20G's. The owner that I spoke to was not budging at all. Perfumania was suppose to take over but could not even get a leg up now some other vitamin store will try to open. So far we have Starbucks and the rule of thumb is that once a retailer such as SB moves in and is able to maintain it self more will follow.

I do agree with the poster who said we need to write to Dromm about the sky high rents.
As some know that I have been looking to open a business here but the rents are killer....are the owners of Cavilear crazy 16K is a heavy note....Or maybe they will sell the land and build an apartment building.


77 Th
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: earbears on February 04, 2010, 09:02:56 PM
It appears that the property is in the process of being sols. As to how (and if) the property is to be developed is still up in the air. The rumor is that an apartment building is being considered. There would have to be hearing as variances would be needed and landmarks and air-rights will come into discussion.

Get ready to take action if needed. Danny Drumm will be an important member of this action along with the JHBG and all of us.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: abee on February 04, 2010, 09:07:30 PM
This doesn't exactly fit here, but when did Thomas' Furniture Refinishing (80th and Northern) close? Or did he move? I pass by it nearly every day on my way home (I like looking at the interesting furniture out front) and yesterday when I passed by it was a barber. A fully functioning barber. It was like I blinked and it was totally different! I guess I've been driving home different ways lately!
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: v70cat on February 05, 2010, 08:51:11 AM
This is not local problem.

Retailers across the Country are struggling and vacancy rates for retail space are increasing.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: linette on February 05, 2010, 10:47:26 AM
But in many cases these businesses weren't struggling until the landlords decided to jack up the rents--that does seem to be peculiar to our neighborhood. The concept of supply/demand breaks down when landlords don't care that there's no demand at the prices they are asking, and are willing to leave spaces open for years on end.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: dotley on February 05, 2010, 11:34:47 AM
This is related to the empty storefront conversation, but has anyone passed by what was Don Francisco's lately? I saw a cat in the store but did not know at the time that the store was out of business. The cat appeared well fed.   If he/she is still there then I will call the ASPCA or a rescue group and the owner.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Shelby2 on February 05, 2010, 12:03:18 PM
This is related to the empty storefront conversation, but has anyone passed by what was Don Francisco's lately? I saw a cat in the store but did not know at the time that the store was out of business. The cat appeared well fed.   If he/she is still there then I will call the ASPCA or a rescue group and the owner.

I saw people in there just the other day - possibly dismantling some equipment.  Do you think the cat was abandoned?
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: dotley on February 05, 2010, 02:25:45 PM
I will check this afternoon.  Hopefully one of the people dismantling the store took the cat home.  He/she appeared to have been very well fed (hopefully it was not pregnant!)
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Really4rob on February 06, 2010, 01:08:32 AM
Is it sad that Flagship is closing ... the staff there have always been friendly and kind.  Often discounting purchases, and giving Luc candy when we stop by.  And I rent many DVDs and develop LOTS of pictures.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Really4rob on February 06, 2010, 01:08:59 AM
My second line got cut off. 

But Flagship is a chain, or at least used to be. 
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: ECG on February 06, 2010, 03:24:26 AM
I think the other one was in Woodside, but seems to have disappeared a while ago.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Griswold Girl on February 06, 2010, 11:34:54 AM
I just noticed that the building on the block that entails the Cavelier, former Charles Hair, Fashion Shoes, accountant and butcher is listed for sale for $4 million.  It says that the ad was listed 32 days ago but I am sure I would have seen it if it were.

http://realestate.nytimes.com/sales/detail/343-434-57900/11372-QUEENS-NY-USA/PRICE-HIGH-sort/343-434-57900--380-2232372--380-1034757--3517-2230566--380-2254508--2007-33D8D238E7436--857-0334186--2007-33D783B8C84E1--2007-33D8D235CD45A--380-2048431-ls/119-t
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: madalyn on February 06, 2010, 11:44:23 AM
I love that it says: "Amenities - Pets Allowed" ...WTF??
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Really4rob on February 06, 2010, 01:06:38 PM
I think the other one was in Woodside, but seems to have disappeared a while ago.


There is or was one in Elmhurst too .. its where they sent custom photo jobs like the photo mugs etc.

I talked to my friend there today, they are moving to Sunnyside on 46th.  :(
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Really4rob on February 06, 2010, 01:13:03 PM
This song from my college days (can it really be 21 years old???) kinda works for this thread.

Oddly enough always thought the train sound in the background was the 7 train until I saw the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V5VkMqM07s
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: jheightsgirl on February 06, 2010, 08:07:49 PM
After reading this thread I hit the streets with my camera and have posted pictures to my Picasa album.  It's pretty bleak out there on 37th Avenue....

http://picasaweb.google.com/jheightsgirl/JHeightsStorefrontsFeb2010#
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Really4rob on February 06, 2010, 08:19:13 PM
This is really depressing.  :( 
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Shelby2 on February 07, 2010, 05:48:17 PM
After reading this thread I hit the streets with my camera and have posted pictures to my Picasa album.  It's pretty bleak out there on 37th Avenue....

http://picasaweb.google.com/jheightsgirl/JHeightsStorefrontsFeb2010#

Even though it's a depressing topic, I really liked these photos.

Also I'm happy to report that the formerly empty storefront next to the Nueva Vida pharmacy--your third photo-- is now occupied by a store that sells "America's best brands."
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: dssjh on February 07, 2010, 06:12:46 PM
ooh, macintosh, tampax and american apparel under one roof? count me in [>quote author=Shelby2 link=topic=867.msg26819#msg26819 date=1265582897]
Even though it's a depressing topic, I really liked these photos.

Also I'm happy to report that the formerly empty storefront next to the Nueva Vida pharmacy--your third photo-- is now occupied by a store that sells "America's best brands."
[/quote]
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: tallman on February 07, 2010, 10:30:30 PM
I'm siding with dssjh here.  I'd rather have seen the space vacant for a little while linger than see a sh!thole like that move in so soon.  Quality of life is just about that, quality, so if you need to stare at a for rent sign for a few months so something worthwhile to move in, that's much better than filling the space with Crap.  That store looks like it's selling sh!t that fell off the back of the bootleg truck, and in no way improves the qiality of life for ANY of it's residents.  We can't let merchants pander to the lowest common demoniator.

I am saddenned by the vacant spaces, and I am saddened by the closing of a place like the Cavalier or M&V, but I no longer welcome what is replacing it.

I may just have to side with Queenscrap if this continues. 
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Shelby2 on February 07, 2010, 10:41:54 PM
I'm siding with dssjh here.  I'd rather have seen the space vacant for a little while linger than see a sh!thole like that move in so soon.  Quality of life is just about that, quality, so if you need to stare at a for rent sign for a few months so something worthwhile to move in, that's much better than filling the space with Crap.  That store looks like it's selling sh!t that fell off the back of the bootleg truck, and in no way improves the qiality of life for ANY of it's residents.  We can't let merchants pander to the lowest common demoniator.

I am saddenned by the vacant spaces, and I am saddened by the closing of a place like the Cavalier or M&V, but I no longer welcome what is replacing it.

I may just have to side with Queenscrap if this continues.  

I don't know what their lease terms are in this new place.  It may just be a temporary place for them, as they do not really have much in the way of store fixtures.  If it's temporary while the landlord looks for a permanent tenant, I have no problem with an outlet store that sells last year's American Eagle and Gap jeans at a discount (though it is not a store I have wished for).  In terms of the appearance of the store, it is clean with clothing folded on tables, from what I could tell.  If it's a temporary space, it makes sense that it has the appearance of a sample sale.  If it is not temporary, then I think they should buy real fixtures.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: madalyn on February 08, 2010, 06:42:01 AM
Landlords are less inclined in this market to give long-term leases so we may see a lot of these fly by night stores before we get more permanent tenants that have a vested interest in keeping J.H. a nice place to shop and live.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: ElmhurstGal on February 08, 2010, 11:16:08 AM
 :'( I am deeply saddened by the closing of M & V Bagel Shoppe and Cavalier Restaurant. This is from Lost New York City. Could JH be getting a Barnes & Noble? Does anyone know?
http://lostnewyorkcity.blogspot.com/2010/02/irish-wake-at-cavalier-restaurant.html
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Shelby2 on February 08, 2010, 11:54:17 AM
:'( I am deeply saddened by the closing of M & V Bagel Shoppe and Cavalier Restaurant. This is from Lost New York City. Could JH be getting a Barnes & Noble? Does anyone know?
http://lostnewyorkcity.blogspot.com/2010/02/irish-wake-at-cavalier-restaurant.html

There is a rumor floating around about Barnes and Noble.   In the past there was a rumor that B and N was going to go into the large space on 82nd St. but that turned into the ABC Discount Store.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: ECG on February 08, 2010, 12:24:34 PM
Interesting rumor. Positioning a B&N above 82nd St would do a lot for that section of JH, I think.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Mike V on February 08, 2010, 03:33:06 PM
A B&N certainly would do a lot of this area of JH's.  Imagine what it would do for the area if it was a Trader Joe's?  I'm hoping it won't be Condos which was also mentioned. 
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Shelby2 on February 08, 2010, 03:37:54 PM
Where are these rumors coming from?  Do people just make them up or do they actually originate with someone saying something like, "I know someone in Corporate Affairs at B&N and she told me..."
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Griswold Contessa on February 08, 2010, 05:02:19 PM
Like it or not this neighborhood is changing and the landlords are aware of this therefore the stores will change along with the population.  I am sure this very same thing happened in Brooklyn Heights, Park Slope, Williamsburg and Astoria.  I think it's called re-gentrification.  
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: ECG on February 08, 2010, 05:51:34 PM
What is that block zoned for and is it in the Historic District?
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: earbears on February 08, 2010, 06:02:31 PM
I am not sure of the specific zoning. The current building is taypayers and has been that way for over 60 years. There is an apartment building on the other half of 37th avenue and on the next block. Accross the street are taxpayers.

Yes, it is in the historic district.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Really4rob on February 08, 2010, 07:52:11 PM
Well, stopped in at Flagship again.  That place has been part of my life since my post-colle partment mates and I hung there, through the current great ownership.  They were going to close today, but he thinks he may open a few more days.  Just as sad though.  :(

But every cloud has a silver lining ... almost everyday since Luc could walk, he wanted a gumball from the machine.  The owner even gave him quarters sometimes, they are big fans of his.  So when I was chatting with him on Saturday, and he said hew as selling everything, he wasn't kidding and we struck a deal. 

The look on my son's face when he saw his new 5 foot gumball machine, priceless.  (And worth the funny looks I got pushing it on a dolly down 79th Street)
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: madalyn on February 08, 2010, 08:20:07 PM
That is sooo cool!
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: dssjh on February 08, 2010, 10:00:46 PM

the problem with that kind of change -- at least insofar as it applies to willamsburg and astoria -- is that the new stores never last. they die on the vine after three, six or 12 months. very very few stay in business, because, frankly, while people may need a jar of tasmanian sea salt or a vintage feather boa (or, less sarcastically, a luxury item like a custom leather briefcase) every once in a great while, they aren't things that one needs to stop in for every tuesday and thursday. i lived in astoria for a few years, before the rents tripled, and the old-school places were fading, but had been there for three, four, five decades. once they were displaced, the turnover became a yearly thing in a lot of stores along broadway and 30th. i am not saying that change is, in and of itself, bad. but it's not, in and of itself, good.


Like it or not this neighborhood is changing and the landlords are aware of this therefore the stores will change along with the population.  I am sure this very same thing happened in Brooklyn Heights, Park Slope, Williamsburg and Astoria.  I think it's called re-gentrification.  
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: tallman on February 08, 2010, 10:42:33 PM
Shelby,

Yes, the store is clean and the clothes are neatly folded, but this is the exact same appearance as when the store was up on Roosevelt and 84/85 (by the T-Mobile place) 

They set up shop there for 4 months or so and for the duration of their tenancy, never improved the appearance of their store beyond that.

It's barely a step up from being a street vendor who sells bootleg merch on the street.  Same nomadic retailers, same folding tables, just hopping storefronts as opposed to street corners.

Do you really feel that sort of operation provides a value to the community, or would you rather see someone establish a business that wants to set roots in the neighborhood and improve the quality of life or just offer clean, well-folded merchandise on nomadic folding tables?
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Shelby2 on February 08, 2010, 11:11:08 PM

Do you really feel that sort of operation provides a value to the community, or would you rather see someone establish a business that wants to set roots in the neighborhood and improve the quality of life or just offer clean, well-folded merchandise on nomadic folding tables?


I prefer to see a storefront that's occupied, as opposed to a storefront that is papered-over (such as the former Gothic Cabinetcraft) or a storefront that is covered with acid-etched graffiti (former shoe store on the same block as the Cavalier).

Click on jheightsgirl's photo essay http://picasaweb.google.com/jheightsgirl/JHeightsStorefrontsFeb2010# for a reminder about how blighted our streets can look when we have storefronts sitting empty for too long.

Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Really4rob on February 08, 2010, 11:32:01 PM
That is sooo cool!

Thanks.

Here's our piece of Flagship, in it's new home!

Favorite line:  "What do you mean only two a day?"
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Chuckster on February 08, 2010, 11:34:26 PM
Thanks.

Here's our piece of Flagship, in it's new home!

Favorite line:  "What do you mean only two a day?"

Rob, that's adorable!  The thing is bigger than him!!   :D 
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Really4rob on February 08, 2010, 11:40:45 PM
LOL, trust me, I know!  I lugged it on a dolly up the 79th Street hill from 37th to many odd looks.  But well worth it ...

Incidentally he has a plan to bring it down to the next Dunolly flea market to supplement his lemonade stand from last year by selling gumball ... two more trips down and up?? ... oy!
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Really4rob on February 08, 2010, 11:42:32 PM
Before I forget, my friend and I were joking with the Flagship owner (and to get this thread I hijacked -- sorry! -- back on track), and he had a sense of humor to say the store replacing Flagship would be a CVS.

At least I *THINK* he was kidding ...
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: madalyn on February 09, 2010, 06:44:45 AM
Yeah...you know. we don't have enough drug stores around here.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Metsboy on February 09, 2010, 10:43:17 AM
There is or was one in Elmhurst too .. its where they sent custom photo jobs like the photo mugs etc.

I talked to my friend there today, they are moving to Sunnyside on 46th.  :(

Thats strange because they used to be here on 46 street and Queens Blvd. Where Sidetracks is, then they moved to the other side of the Blvd. Then left. Used to buy my concert tickets there.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Really4rob on February 10, 2010, 10:24:09 AM
Thats strange because they used to be here on 46 street and Queens Blvd. Where Sidetracks is, then they moved to the other side of the Blvd. Then left. Used to buy my concert tickets there.

Wild.  Maybe they needed mores pace (is the new place bigger?) to accomodate the stores that closed (here, Elmhurst).  Except that here sold all its inventory ... I mean even fixtures are up sale. 
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: dssjh on February 10, 2010, 02:09:04 PM
i'm gonna really miss those guys. they were so sweet. and i am so happy to hear that you and Luc got such a cool souvenir, Rob  :)
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Really4rob on February 10, 2010, 02:12:48 PM
LOl, thanks!  Luc is in heaven still .. he had classmates over today for a snow playdate and was serving gum ...

And yes the Flagship crew are the coolest.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Metsboy on February 10, 2010, 02:19:09 PM
Wild.  Maybe they needed mores pace (is the new place bigger?) to accomodate the stores that closed (here, Elmhurst).  Except that here sold all its inventory ... I mean even fixtures are up sale. 

What I meant to say is they had stores here on 46 street , at 2 different locations. Then they closed. We haven't had a flagship in about 8-10 years..Good store..but it  wasn't a patch on Leisure Videos :2funny:
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Really4rob on February 10, 2010, 02:52:58 PM
Ah Ok ... I understand now.  My bad.

And yeah Leisure was cool, I used to hit the 81st Street one, they had 7 branches I think at their heght, two in Jackson Heights (89th I think was other?), but Flagship for me went above and beyond. 

I develop lots of pictures you see, and also make communication boards for my kids at school ... they did prints for me even of things I created and saved as JPGs, thatw ay they last longer and can be placed in photo albums for kids to use.

And because I leave at 6 am, I could walk by the DVD drop, drop my CD of things in with a note (Rob, 2 copies please, or such) and on my way home from school, they'd be ready.  No extra trips out at night.  Can't beat that!

 ;D
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: v70cat on February 11, 2010, 05:59:57 PM
Here is link for information on strip retail


http://event.on24.com/r.htm?e=186736&s=1&k=427688BFB960941F6AA497742BC95A6F

The bottom line is that prices are down and vacancy rates are up.

Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Really4rob on February 13, 2010, 02:41:46 PM
Just an update on Flagship ... they officially close at Tuesday at 8 or 9 pm ...

Still managed to find somthing to rent today ...
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Shelby2 on February 14, 2010, 07:23:13 PM
Update on the former Gothic Cabinet Craft to the left of the Jackson House Restaurant (Diner) between 82nd and 83rd.  It had been papered over with a for rent sign above the door.  

The for rent sign is still there, but half the paper is gone, revealing a clothing store that seems to have a specific design style with various kinds of wallpaper and track lighting.  I didn't get a good look at the clothing, but it is visible through the glass.  The small temporary sign on the door says www.pulsenyc.com and I think it listed several other locations.  The website doesn't work well for me and I wasn't able to click on the locations tab online.  I think it may be a small chain.  There is no formal signage anywhere else so I guess there is a chance that the store is actually going to be called something else.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: APG7714 on February 14, 2010, 07:45:14 PM
Update on the former Gothic Cabinet Craft to the left of the Jackson House Restaurant (Diner) between 82nd and 83rd.  It had been papered over with a for rent sign above the door.  

The for rent sign is still there, but half the paper is gone, revealing a clothing store that seems to have a specific design style with various kinds of wallpaper and track lighting.  I didn't get a good look at the clothing, but it is visible through the glass.  The small temporary sign on the door says www.pulsenyc.com and I think it listed several other locations.  The website doesn't work well for me and I wasn't able to click on the locations tab online.  I think it may be a small chain.  There is no formal signage anywhere else so I guess there is a chance that the store is actually going to be called something else.

http://nymag.com/listings/stores/pulse00/

Thats whats coming for better or for worse , a pro is that they have an established "look" or "aesthetic" their stores follow , there was one at the Queens Mall , that closed recently . The store it's self was clean and not too tacky , but overall not an amazing addition to the nabe . Ehh better than an empty storefront  ::)
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: APG7714 on February 14, 2010, 07:49:25 PM
http://nymag.com/listings/stores/pulse00/

Thats whats coming for better or for worse , a pro is that they have an established "look" or "aesthetic" their stores follow , there was one at the Queens Mall , that closed recently . The store it's self was clean and not too tacky , but overall not an amazing addition to the nabe . Ehh better than an empty storefront  ::)
http://us1.campaign-archive.com/?u=34c6e674053b5f73038c158e5&id=64bab80952
tacky expensive clothes , but the stores' design does not look too horrible , at least I hope not
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Really4rob on February 16, 2010, 08:01:41 PM
Just an update on Flagship ... they officially close at Tuesday at 8 or 9 pm ...

Still managed to find somthing to rent today ...

Guess it ended up being Monday after all .. sorry for the above.  He was closed today.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: elyaqim on February 18, 2010, 12:54:13 PM
Businesses are emptying rapidly. The state of Deshi Bazar on Roosevelt Avenue:

(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs163.snc3/19038_331771979107_510279107_4608166_6301379_n.jpg) (http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs183.snc3/19038_331772204107_510279107_4608169_2054246_n.jpg) (http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs163.snc3/19038_331772269107_510279107_4608170_3186179_n.jpg)

(See http://www.facebook.com/album.php?page=4&aid=180678&l=5b53e2e89b&id=510279107 (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?page=4&aid=180678&l=5b53e2e89b&id=510279107).)
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Chuckster on March 04, 2010, 10:50:41 AM
We may soon know the fate of some of the shops along the block on 37th Avenue... the block where The Cavalier was located.

From YourNabe.com:

Trust negotiates to sell Cavalier building site (http://www.yournabe.com/articles/2010/03/04/queens/queensnjqatne03032010.txt)
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: madalyn on March 04, 2010, 02:01:43 PM
The only type of businesses that can afford to pay twice the rent for those spaces are national fast-food establishments or fronts for money-laundering operations.  This does not bode well for our little neighborhood.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: missmarty on March 06, 2010, 08:44:45 PM
In the mean time, that desolate block was a nice, nearby place to take our kid out on his tricycle, and people watch. I'd love to see some greenspace pop up.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: madalyn on March 06, 2010, 09:09:46 PM
A community garden!!!
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Really4rob on March 06, 2010, 10:39:01 PM
I'm still holding out for a Barnes & Noble.  If we have to choose a chain, let's have one that is beneficial to the community.  :)
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: jessicaramos on March 08, 2010, 12:15:58 PM
yes, jh is in desperate need of a bookstore!
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: David_M on March 08, 2010, 12:30:32 PM
Oh, man.... I would seriously love a good bookstore. That's nearly the only thing we lack in this nabe!
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Really4rob on March 08, 2010, 10:30:16 PM
See since I'm not a coffee drinker, Starbuck's means little to me ... but if we have one, or somehow end upwith two, why not the Barnes & Noble attached to it ... :)
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: ECG on March 09, 2010, 12:13:55 PM
What is the feasibility of having a used book store?
Judging from the number of people who yearn for a bookstore, there are readers in JH. What are you all doing with those books after you read them?

Last year I donated over 200 books to a charity, and still have full shelves.

Bottom line is what would the rent be. What price could you get for the books. Maybe an alliance with a wine bar?

just dreaming away here.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Marlene on March 09, 2010, 12:19:36 PM
What is the feasibility of having a used book store?
Judging from the number of people who yearn for a bookstore, there are readers in JH. What are you all doing with those books after you read them?

Last year I donated over 200 books to a charity, and still have full shelves.

Bottom line is what would the rent be. What price could you get for the books. Maybe an alliance with a wine bar?

just dreaming away here.

Dream away girl! 

I'd love to join in on a low budget financial partnership with other's that may be interested in forming a corporation to open up a bookstore in Jackson Heights.  A small space would be needed, and I do know of a perfect spot.

Alternate, work schedules for those partners would be perfect, especially for those of us that work full or part-time, etc.

Best, 

Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Really4rob on March 10, 2010, 04:01:52 AM
Not to cross poliniate with the Yesteryear thread, EG, but you recall Discount Books, across from PS 69?   

Though to my generation it was, first and foremost, "the comics store", it was a nice little book shop that ultimately went under.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: ECG on March 10, 2010, 12:55:49 PM
Rob - I found one of the Discount Books bookmarks the other day. A souvenir from the past.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Emma on March 10, 2010, 01:32:18 PM
A community garden!!!

Hear, hear!
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Really4rob on March 11, 2010, 01:53:03 AM
Rob - I found one of the Discount Books bookmarks the other day. A souvenir from the past.

In one of the albums I unearthed at my mom's house, I found a picture of the dog Max that used to sit in the dioor throughout the 80s at Discount.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: pkelly on March 11, 2010, 02:42:32 PM
I want to frame this as a rumour but nonetheless intriguing.  I heard from a person I work with who grew up in the neighborhood and is friends with Al the former owner of The Cavalier that he (Al) is looking at starting up a new re staraunt in the space across from the Post Office.  I believe it's the current campaign office for Jose Peralta.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: earbears on March 11, 2010, 04:03:23 PM
That would be great.
It is a shame that things are getting pushed down towards the '70s. It is leaving us in the '80s without. :'(
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: madalyn on March 11, 2010, 06:09:07 PM
As an eighties-resident I couldn't agree more.  I'm just hoping Cannelle bakery opens in the old Cavalier and I can just roll out of bed and have a croissant or some other heavenly pastry every day :2funny:.  That will show all you seventies folks!!
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Shelby2 on March 11, 2010, 06:44:07 PM
As an eighties-resident I couldn't agree more.  I'm just hoping Cannelle bakery opens in the old Cavalier and I can just roll out of bed and have a croissant or some other heavenly pastry every day :2funny:.  That will show all you seventies folks!!

If Cannelle were that close by, quite a few of us would be rolling around!  ;)
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: madalyn on March 11, 2010, 09:27:22 PM
But we'd be fat and happy!
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Really4rob on March 11, 2010, 10:22:22 PM
To paraphrase Homer ...

Mmmmm, fat and happy goodnesssssss ...

Oh my bad, you thought I mean the Greek legend Homer?  LOL!
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: madalyn on March 12, 2010, 06:47:30 AM
There's a Greek Homer?? ;)
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: ECG on March 12, 2010, 09:27:46 AM
Right next to Novo?
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: jjackflash on March 12, 2010, 01:32:37 PM
Acme Funiture is moving into the spot that was occupied by Charles Hairdresser


Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Really4rob on March 12, 2010, 04:35:19 PM
There's a Greek Homer?? ;)

LOL, well maybe the Simpsons are Greek.  Don't think we ever were told their nationalities ...

After all, we still don't know what state they are in, though odds are (from that alternate universe thread) there's a Jackson Heights in it!  :)
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Really4rob on March 12, 2010, 04:38:39 PM
And just to bring this thread back on track, whatever the bakery, will they use .. D'Oh!  :)
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: madalyn on March 12, 2010, 07:18:23 PM
OMG - slap yourself for that one!
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Really4rob on March 12, 2010, 08:41:59 PM
LOL ... my bad!  :)
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: toddg on March 16, 2010, 01:08:30 PM
Another venerable neighborhood business has apparently closed.  Sam and Raj, a 220V appliance shop that opened in 1973, became the anchor around which the entire Little India commercial district grew.   While there are plenty of other stores in the area that now sell similar products, it's sad to see this one go.

Update/Correction: I hear that this is just temporary, and that Sam and Raj will be returning soon.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Shelby2 on March 17, 2010, 10:58:48 AM
On that note, the Colombian jeans store near the Jackson House restaurant/diner no longer has the "lost our lease" sign out front, and they are open and doing business.  So maybe they were able to sign a new lease.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Chuckster on March 17, 2010, 03:33:54 PM
The recent post on Newman Jewelers has been moved to the following thread:

Newman Jewelers (http://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?topic=1493.msg10906#msg10906)
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Griswold Contessa on March 17, 2010, 03:39:01 PM
Sadly the greedy landlords will dictate the stores that will come our way.............The times, they are a changin'........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItPz7f-k-dE
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Really4rob on March 17, 2010, 05:27:06 PM
Whew, gave me a heart attack with Sam and Raj ... I bought my first ever Walkman there years (years!!!!) ago.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Chuckster on March 30, 2010, 04:46:15 PM
85-15 37th Avenue.  Just curious... anyone familiar with this address?   ???  I just came across some information from the NYC Department of Buildings website stating the following on a recently issued permit:

"INSTALL WASHER AND DRYER MACHINE IN LAUNDROMAT STORE ON 1ST FLOOR AND INSTALL SLOP SINK AND HOT WATER HEATER ON CELLAR. NO CHANGE OF USE, EGRESS OR OCCUPANCY."

I may be wrong, but I don't recall there being a laundromat on that strip.  Isn't that the block with all the empty storefronts (Cavalier, Don Francisco, etc.)?  
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Aronan on March 30, 2010, 08:44:40 PM
Could it be that a laundromat is going to move in there ?
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: APG7714 on March 30, 2010, 08:46:29 PM
85-15 37th Avenue.  Just curious... anyone familiar with this address?   ???  I just came across some information from the NYC Department of Buildings website stating the following on a recently issued permit:

"INSTALL WASHER AND DRYER MACHINE IN LAUNDROMAT STORE ON 1ST FLOOR AND INSTALL SLOP SINK AND HOT WATER HEATER ON CELLAR. NO CHANGE OF USE, EGRESS OR OCCUPANCY."

I may be wrong, but I don't recall there being a laundromat on that strip.  Isn't that the block with all the empty storefronts (Cavalier, Don Francisco, etc.)?  

That is exactly the empty Fashion Shoes storefront , I guess we might be getting some Dry Cleaner of sorts , since it only mentions a singular dryer & washer machine
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Aronan on March 30, 2010, 09:03:50 PM
Much better than a 99 cent store :)
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Shelby2 on March 30, 2010, 09:15:09 PM
Why does it say "no change of use"?
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Chuckster on March 30, 2010, 10:34:07 PM
Could it be that a laundromat is going to move in there ?

I gathered that, but was wondering if there was an existing laundromat on the premises that may be undergoing some renovation work.  It's nice to know what stores will be opening in the neighborhood soon.

That is exactly the empty Fashion Shoes storefront , I guess we might be getting some Dry Cleaner of sorts , since it only mentions a singular dryer & washer machine

Thanks for pointing out the actual storefront.  Here's a link to one of the permits that have been issued.  This one refers to the premises as a laundromat.  NYC - DOB (http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=3&passjobnumber=420144837&passdocnumber=01)

Why does it say "no change of use"?

Maybe that means that the premises will remain a commercial storefront?
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Emma on March 31, 2010, 07:12:48 AM
Maybe that means that the premises will remain a commercial storefront?

Yeah, pretty sure "no change of use" is in reference to the way the property is currently zoned.
Title: Re: Neighborhood empty storefronts
Post by: Open Borders Books on August 01, 2020, 06:57:15 PM
What is the feasibility of having a used book store?
Judging from the number of people who yearn for a bookstore, there are readers in JH. What are you all doing with those books after you read them?

Last year I donated over 200 books to a charity, and still have full shelves.

Bottom line is what would the rent be. What price could you get for the books. Maybe an alliance with a wine bar?

just dreaming away here.

Dream away girl! 

I'd love to join in on a low budget financial partnership with other's that may be interested in forming a corporation to open up a bookstore in Jackson Heights.  A small space would be needed, and I do know of a perfect spot.

Alternate, work schedules for those partners would be perfect, especially for those of us that work full or part-time, etc.

Best,

It's been a long time since any of you were dreaming about a bookstore on this site, but if you're still out there, you should know about Open Borders Books, a bookselling collective with dreams just like yours. Right now, we're selling books on 34th Avenue (between 79th and 80th) every Sunday from 10am-2pm (weather permitting) and donating half of the proceeds to local aid organizations. Check us out at openbordersbooks.org (http://openbordersbooks.org) and come by to say hi!

Yours,
Jeff