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Title: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: petegart on July 26, 2020, 06:48:11 PM
https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2020/07/25/city-struggles-to-rein-in-homeless-encampments-in-queens

Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing, and Local Businesses Are Hurting Because of It
By Alyssa Paolicelli Queens
PUBLISHED 7:10 PM ET Jul. 25, 2020 UPDATED 2:35 PM ET Jul. 26, 2020

Since April, Whitney Avenue, alongside a shopping center in Elmhurst, Queens, has become home for a group of people experiencing homelessness.
What You Need To Know

Local residents and business owners say a homeless encampment has been set up on Whitney Avenue in Elmhurst, Queens, since April

For months, the community has filed 311 complaints and alerted the city, but say no action has been taken

Mayor de Blasio vowed to do "whatever it takes" to break up homeless encampments around the city

The side street where many businesses receive deliveries and customers park has now turned into a makeshift shelter.“Originally, they had around 15 to 20 people, now they expanded to 60, 70 people,” said Andy Chen, the owner of Home & Home Pharmacy, a local business.
Chen, along with many neighbors, tell NY1 they have been reporting this encampment to the city for months and nothing has been done.
He said business is tough enough because of the pandemic, and they don’t need anything else driving customers away.
“I understand it is a difficult time for everybody else, but look at us as residents and business owners. Here, at the end of the day, we are the ones suffering,"said Chen.
Earlier in the week, the mayor promised the city would do “whatever it takes” to break up such encampments, but Elmhurst business owners said they have seen none of that enforcement.
“We cannot do anything. We call and nobody can help us. We want to survive. Right now, not too much business. That is why we need the help," said Yokehong Ooi, the manager at Pulau Pinang, a local restaurant.
One employee said a local nonprofit has been coming three times a day and providing water and food for the unsheltered individuals, and even dropped off tents to provide shade and covering during rain.
“There are toilets in the back. They don’t want to leave. There is more and more coming,” added Phuiman Lo, a waitress at Pulau Pinang.
They say they've been fined because of the unintended consequences of the encampment.
“We have gotten tickets because it is too dirty. But it is not our fault. We have garbagemen come everyday, but it is them who throw the garbage to us in the back and we get tickets for them," said Lo.
The Department of Homeless Services said when a condition on the street needs to be addressed their office acts as quickly as they can.
The department stressed that it engages and works to build trust with the unsheltered individuals and offers them services, but added that results take time and do not happen overnight.
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: abcdefghijk on July 27, 2020, 08:34:00 AM
Also around the BQE at the 65th St subway station...

There's a homeless encampment and trash is everywhere.

Actually, talking about trash, our resident bagman has annexed a bench outside Food Dynasty and filled it sky high with garbage...

Apparently, he has an apartment somewhere in the neighborhood...perhaps he could be persuaded  to keep his trash treasure there? Tho I pity his neighbors.

This is all definitely a health hazard.

Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: Yankswun98 on July 27, 2020, 05:37:41 PM
The BQE underpass on 35th avenue is filled with garbage.  You can't even walk through without stepping on garbage.  Also mattresses along with other items block the pathway.



Also around the BQE at the 65th St subway station...

There's a homeless encampment and trash is everywhere.

Actually, talking about trash, our resident bagman has annexed a bench outside Food Dynasty and filled it sky high with garbage...

Apparently, he has an apartment somewhere in the neighborhood...perhaps he could be persuaded  to keep his trash treasure there? Tho I pity his neighbors.

This is all definitely a health hazard.
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: abcdefghijk on July 27, 2020, 06:17:38 PM
To deal with these issues...is it 311 you should call?
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: Yankswun98 on July 27, 2020, 07:01:27 PM
To deal with these issues...is it 311 you should call?

I called 311 to report the encampment under the BQE and the area around 65th street.  When I told the guy the location he said someone called last week and reported this.  I have my reference number and will wait for an email update.
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: Fedup on July 28, 2020, 10:56:42 AM
Funny how everyone's first thought is "how can I get rid of this?" instead of "how can I help these people?"
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: dssjh on July 28, 2020, 11:15:07 AM
Funny how everyone's first thought is "how can I get rid of this?" instead of "how can I help these people?"

thank you. righteous privilege is an ugly thing. but the inevitable denials and deflections are always comedy gold.
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: Angus on July 28, 2020, 10:51:33 PM
I don’t know if this has been mentioned on this board yet, but I saw it posted in another forum and thought it might be helpful to post it here.

There’s a bill before the City Council, Intro 1927, that's intended to reduce the spread of COVID among homeless New Yorkers and frontline social service and security workers. Rather than leave people in dangerous congregate shelters or move people into shared hotel spaces - typically occupied by strangers and which do not allow for protection from transmission - the bill requires the Department of Social Services to offer an individual room and bathroom to those in crowded, congregate shelters. Many people are not in shelters currently because they're afraid of contracting COVID in overcrowded shelters The bill also strengthens support for those living unsheltered on our streets and subways.

Neither Danny Dromm or Francisco Moya has co-sponsored the legislation or indicated that they support it. If you’re concerned about the lack of safe spaces for our unsheltered community members, you can give their offices a call and let them know that you support this legislation and would encourage them to support it, too.

Danny Dromm
dromm@council.nyc.gov
718-803-6373

Francisco Moya
fmoya@council.nyc.gov
718-651-1917

The bill itself is here: https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=4424152&GUID=A763B8C0-DC29-415A-9FC0-A28335F20B20&Options=&Search=

With more info here: https://www.1927saveslives.org/
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: abcdefghijk on July 29, 2020, 11:11:21 AM
This problem is way bigger than anything I can even imagine how to solve. Congregating in shelters. Congregating outside. All COVID dangerous.

Maybe the city should give each homeless person $20,000? And some soap and clothes and a job?

I would vote for that.

Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: Chingwa on July 29, 2020, 08:43:14 PM
"...a group of people experiencing homelessness."
Geez... this nanny language is getting out of hand.
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: Chingwa on July 29, 2020, 08:48:26 PM
Maybe the city should give each homeless person $20,000? And some soap and clothes and a job?
I would vote for that.
Bleeding hearts are going to bleed us all dry.

Jobs for everyone MIGHT be a good idea, afterall everyone has a job in Communist China and look how awesome it is there.  However I don't think "everyone gets a job" (no matter how menial) jives well with a constantly rising government mandated minimum wage.
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: dssjh on July 29, 2020, 08:56:53 PM
that's the stuff. Communist China. the new Russia. showing compassion for the homeless. the new original sin. we are doomed if we stray from the path we've blazed since 2017. that is the only true path.
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: abcdefghijk on July 30, 2020, 10:53:18 AM
The homeless are obviously part of our landscape now.

But it's the trash they leave everywhere  that's dangerous and a health hazard.

Maybe a trash education program for the homeless?

Where the homeless are taught to care for their new community. And not turn that community into garbage.



Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: Jeffsayyes on July 30, 2020, 02:51:54 PM
I just passed by this on Whitney. They had a tent set up. Looked like they were having a great time there!
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: abcdefghijk on July 30, 2020, 05:56:01 PM
I just passed by this on Whitney. They had a tent set up. Looked like they were having a great time there!

I also saw it.

While restaurants are shut down for allowing too much outside drinking/congregating...the homeless get to party.

What a strange world...

Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: dssjh on July 30, 2020, 06:21:58 PM
perhaps the governor could suspend their licenses to be homeless.
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: abcdefghijk on July 30, 2020, 06:40:57 PM
perhaps the governor could suspend their licenses to be homeless.

Two wrongs, as always...never make a right.

The constant flaw in many folks' logic.
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: lalochezia on July 30, 2020, 07:16:34 PM
perhaps the governor could suspend their licenses to be homeless.

Two wrongs, as always...never make a right.

The constant flaw in many folks' logic.

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Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: abcdefghijk on July 30, 2020, 07:33:15 PM
perhaps the governor could suspend their licenses to be homeless.

Two wrongs, as always...never make a right.

The constant flaw in many folks' logic.

(https://media.tenor.com/images/52da89c921b1cec32f820708d999d8de/tenor.gif)

As always, I will ignore your child-like pictorial insults. Then again, they clearly serve to describe the poster's level of maturity. Pee Wee Herman says hello.
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: lindsey on August 18, 2020, 03:16:13 PM
I appreciated this short interview in the e-newsletter Epicenter NYC. (You can sign up for the newsletter here: https://epicenter-nyc.com/subscribe). The idea to carry a card of community resources seems good.


Dear Neighbor,

Are you noticing more homeless people in your community? Among reasons for this: Warmer weather draws people out of shelters and onto the streets where there are fewer rules and no curfew. And because of Covid-19, the NYC Department of Homeless Services has been moving thousands out of shelters, where social distancing is impossible, into hotel rooms — often in some of the city’s more pricey ZIP codes.

It’s become a showdown in certain neighborhoods. We spoke to Cari Feingold, a clinical social worker who has counseled homeless populations, on how to try to diffuse the tension. Her advice:

What to give. Whether to give money is always a question people have. Feingold advises against it. Instead, she suggests providing personal hygiene products like deodorant, cleansing wipes and tampons and sanitary pads, which can be especially hard to come by. The travel section at stores like Target and CVS are good for stocking up.

Resources. Consider creating a card listing local food kitchens, community fridges, mental health and detox clinics, and Covid testing locations. Keep several with you and hand them out. “You can only want for someone as much as they want for themselves. It’s all about being empowered,” Feingold told us. “Giving somebody a McDonald’s sandwich is not empowering. Giving someone a list of resources they can call? That’s empowering.”

Who is that, Mama? How to explain the new neighbors to children? Come from a place of empathy. Explain that being homeless doesn’t make you a bad person, and it’s not a choice. If you come across somebody using drugs, Feingold suggests being honest: The person is sick, and what they are doing is bad for their body and illegal.

Consider carrying Narcan. There are nearly 80,000 homeless people in New York City. The vast majority also suffer from issues such as mental illness and substance abuse. Fentanyl, a powerful and deadly synthetic opiate often lacing cocaine and heroin, is responsible for many overdose deaths in New York City. Naloxone, more commonly known by the brand name Narcan, is a nasal spray that helps reverse an opioid overdose. New Yorkers can secure Naloxone free of charge from community organizations and participating pharmacies, and several organizations offer free training on how to effectively use it.

What if you feel threatened? If you see someone who appears to be a danger to themselves or others, Feingold recommends contacting the police and letting them know you are calling in regards to an emotionally disturbed person (EDP). That way, she said, they will send an ambulance and bring the individual to the hospital to be assessed.

And most importantly, be sympathetic.

Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: Beech Court on August 20, 2020, 04:15:04 AM
I noticed yesterday afternoon the homeless man, who made the bench by Food Dynasty his, was gone. Does anyone know what happened to him?
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: abcdefghijk on August 20, 2020, 11:01:44 AM
He moved across the street.

He has been here for years. And I have heard that he has an apartment in the area. (Where he goes in Winter?) So he is not homeless. He chooses to live on the street. And collect plastic bags etc.
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: Beech Court on August 20, 2020, 05:58:32 PM
He moved across the street.

He has been here for years. And I have heard that he has an apartment in the area. (Where he goes in Winter?) So he is not homeless. He chooses to live on the street. And collect plastic bags etc.

If that is true then probably there are too many complaints wherever this apartment is. So the problem moves to the streets. Either way this is not normal behavior and the man needs help.
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: 80JHer on August 20, 2020, 06:19:29 PM
Can we get rid of those linkNY kiosks, Such useless eyesore.  The only use is for the drunks to siesta while they charge iPhones.  Ridiculous
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: Beech Court on August 20, 2020, 09:52:16 PM
Nothing wrong with the kiosks. In fact I have stories where they were actually worth the space and more. The problem is keeping vagrants moving.
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: abcdefghijk on August 21, 2020, 09:33:37 AM
He moved across the street.

He has been here for years. And I have heard that he has an apartment in the area. (Where he goes in Winter?) So he is not homeless. He chooses to live on the street. And collect plastic bags etc.

If that is true then probably there are too many complaints wherever this apartment is. So the problem moves to the streets. Either way this is not normal behavior and the man needs help.

Yes, mental illness often leads to sad outcomes.

The person appears to have deteriorated this year.  And his plastic bag/trash collection has worsened exponentially.

The only way for this person to get better would be for him to be on medication long term.

But I imagine he is not the type to take his medication every day.

Therein lies the dilemma.



Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: Beech Court on August 21, 2020, 01:48:50 PM
I agree about his collection having grown worse and what seems to be mental illness.
Somehow there has to be a more effective way of handling things besides keeping him moving from bench to bench.
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: Yankswun98 on October 12, 2020, 02:24:34 PM
The BQE underpass at 35th avenue has a sign from a NYC agency that states they will be removing belonging left.  In the 2 months since it was pressure washed, it still seems rather clean except for the bird droppings. 

The homeless population has moved from the underpass to private properties in the lower 70's.  Tuesday night I had 3 individuals drinking, smoking and passing out on my front steps.  Saturday night I had a homeless man sleeping on a mattress in my neighbors parking spot and peeing in my garden.  By the time police came the guy had left.

Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: r on October 12, 2020, 06:45:41 PM
(deleted, meant to reply to http://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?topic=20182.0 instead)
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: Liz on October 13, 2020, 08:01:31 AM
I like the idea of a card and giving out hygiene products, but I think giving out a sandwich or even money (that might be spent on liquor!  I like a glass of wine too!) is fine as well.  I think it's important to support local organizations that help the homeless.  The homeless and people with mental illness are NYC residents too and our neighbors.  They are human beings.  Please keep that in mind.  Just like the gentrifiers are human and our neighbors.
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: jeanette on October 21, 2020, 07:17:52 AM
He moved across the street.
He has been here for years. And I have heard that he has an apartment in the area. (Where he goes in Winter?) So he is not homeless. He chooses to live on the street. And collect plastic bags etc.

Maybe, but what you "heard" should be taken lightly. People are not above spreading vicious lies or being gullible believers in them. The homeless can go to a shelter "in Winter." A woman I knew years ago froze to death in a blizzard, while people talked about how she was rich and therefore chose her fate. It was sickening.
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: abcdefghijk on October 21, 2020, 09:48:15 AM
He moved across the street.
He has been here for years. And I have heard that he has an apartment in the area. (Where he goes in Winter?) So he is not homeless. He chooses to live on the street. And collect plastic bags etc.

Maybe, but what you "heard" should be taken lightly. People are not above spreading vicious lies or being gullible believers in them. The homeless can go to a shelter "in Winter." A woman I knew years ago froze to death in a blizzard, while people talked about how she was rich and therefore chose her fate. It was sickening.

Unfortunately, as is the case here, Medical Science has not yet found a cure for mental illness. Which is the situation with this gentleman. (All Medical Science has found for mental illness is medication which must be taken daily. But the person has to take the medication daily or it doesn't work)
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: dssjh on October 21, 2020, 11:45:49 AM
you are correct about mental illnesses needing treatment -- schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, narcissistic selfishness and lack of compassion all need to be addressed by some form of intervention, whether it be counseling or chemical.

and, to note, i am not accusing the most recent poster of any of those things, just noting that all four are part of the picture here.
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: 80JHer on January 10, 2021, 06:08:19 PM
Does anybody have knowledge about the homeless lady on 37th ave?  Outside the laundromat

I’ve never seen her before, but know she is a constant presence.  I have seen her in rain and inclement weather.  I’ve also seen her picked up a few times by ambulance. 
Title: Re: Residents Say Homeless Encampment in Queens Is Growing,...
Post by: E train on January 10, 2021, 06:18:46 PM
She has been there for the last few months. She also camps in the Apple Bank from time to time. There is also a growing circle of men who have camped on the corner of 82nd and 37th in front of the bank. They have sleeping bags and food and drink so it seems that they are planning, if that's the right word, to remain there for a while. They are not masked and they are not socially distant. Are the politicians of this community who seem to be endlessly self-promoting doing anything about this?