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Title: JH needs local leadership
Post by: 80JHer on July 18, 2020, 11:05:36 AM
Returned after a month away.  My god, JH is disgusting. What happened?
-Drunks seem to be everywhere, they are permanent fixtures around those new LINk NY kiosks
-Fuck covid  shark graffiti everywhere.
-Homeless encampments at the post office.
-Streets are repulsive with garbage and waste.
I would be embarrassed to have someone visit me here. 

How does this happen?  Do are elected officials do anything?  Or do they just care of national politics?
Title: Re: JH needs local leadership
Post by: lalochezia on July 18, 2020, 12:31:34 PM
Best buckle up then. You ain't seen nothing yet. when the economy really crashes in the next few months, we'll have hoovervilles/trumpvilles everywhere, including JH.
Title: Re: JH needs local leadership
Post by: Heightsman on July 18, 2020, 03:06:57 PM
Hi I was walking on 82nd street to the train the other day and the sidewalk was trashed! I’ve never seen it that bad. It was littered with paper, torn up lotto tickets, plastic bags and more. That was after I passed the 3 homeless men that sleep by RiteAid. Such a depressing way to start the day....
Maybe the increase of street venders is the cause?
Title: Re: JH needs local leadership
Post by: dssjh on July 18, 2020, 03:44:13 PM
lotto tickets, cigarette butts and plastic bags don't come from street vendors. and you can't blame street vendors for homelessness, either.

as Lalochezia says, this is just the beginning of a Depression, not a recovery from a "recession." and it's worse in smaller/mid-size towns in states where the economy is even worse. we do need to buckle up.
Title: Re: JH needs local leadership
Post by: 80JHer on July 18, 2020, 04:16:04 PM
Using the economy is a weak excuse.  I shouldn’t have to buckle up and expect a trashed neighborhood.  A large part of our high taxes goes to police and municipals.  We should expect clean and safe streets.  If we don’t have them, then we don’t have proper leadership advocating for them. 

Nothing has changed in funding.  Our taxes remain the same.

I have been to a few neighborhoods in Long Island and upstate NY this past month.  The economy sucks there as well.  But all of them have been clean and well maintained.  Very unlike here
Title: Re: JH needs local leadership
Post by: abcdefghijk on July 18, 2020, 04:32:58 PM
Using the economy is a weak excuse.  I shouldn’t have to buckle up and expect a trashed neighborhood.  A large part of our high taxes goes to police and municipals.  We should expect clean and safe streets.  If we don’t have them, then we don’t have proper leadership advocating for them. 

Nothing has changed in funding.  Our taxes remain the same.

I have been to a few neighborhoods in Long Island and upstate NY this past month.  The economy sucks there as well.  But all of them have been clean and well maintained.  Very unlike here

I agree. Poor folks can be clean and not litter. Especially since we will all become poor folks now.

Folks who don't care about their community trash and litter. 

Title: Re: JH needs local leadership
Post by: lalochezia on July 18, 2020, 04:36:18 PM


Nothing has changed in funding.  Our taxes remain the same.


$9 Billion was the projection at (the end of this may)  in annual loss to the city from reduced revenues. The actual loss will be worse than that.

 The fact that you pay the same in taxes is neither here nor there.
Title: Re: JH needs local leadership
Post by: itsit on July 18, 2020, 05:29:39 PM
 It would be great if once or twice a week, people picked up some trash. David Sedaris has done this in the English countryside where he was upset at the litter he found. It can be therapeutic which might sound crazy to some but it's also being part of the solution. Use  gloves of course, and maybe a pair of tongs if you have some or one of those grabbers if you own that tool. Maybe bring along some water for the street trees and the median also.
  Happy picking!
Title: Re: JH needs local leadership
Post by: dssjh on July 18, 2020, 05:51:17 PM
in "normal" times, i've done this. first, around our building, then on the side street leading up to the next avenue. in a time when a deadly virus is spreading, i'm shying away -- gloves and all.
Title: Re: JH needs local leadership
Post by: JHResident on July 18, 2020, 10:17:13 PM
82nd BID pays for cleaners to keep 82nd St clean. Hard to pay for this when your business has been closed.  Here's a thought. If you feel there's a lack of leadership, become a leader. Organize like-minded people to clean the streets, like JHBG does from time to time.
Title: Re: JH needs local leadership
Post by: 80JHer on July 19, 2020, 07:32:56 AM
we spend over 3 billion a year Of tax payer money  on homelessness.  I’ll pass on approaching them, it’s no tv my job. 

A local official advocating for our actual neighborhood would make sure we got some of that money and keep our streets safe and clean.
Title: Re: JH needs local leadership
Post by: KGDHP on July 19, 2020, 07:34:00 AM
82nd BID pays for cleaners to keep 82nd St clean. Hard to pay for this when your business has been closed.  Here's a thought. If you feel there's a lack of leadership, become a leader. Organize like-minded people to clean the streets, like JHBG does from time to time.

I've been away as well and now your post is making me DREAD coming back. Especially since the day I left a drunk guy, right in the middle of 82nd street, stood up, unzipped his fly, pulled out his junk, and peed in the middle of the block. I am a life long new Yorker and I have never seen anything like that. My god, go turn to the corner at least.

Either way, I've been upstate as well and I wholeheartedly agree that these are some depressed communities as well and they are CLEAN. Not even a shred of paper on the ground. We can all do better. Hell, even the Renaissance Charter School absolutely TRASHES the corner of 82nd Street. I've made numerous complaints to elected officials that go unanswered.

If anyone is up for organizing litter pickup days, I would join you.
Title: Re: JH needs local leadership
Post by: itsit on July 30, 2020, 10:01:01 AM
 There is a cleanup organized to continue the cleaning of the litter on 69th Street.
Sanitation has been working there but more can be done. Meet on 69th Street this Saturday @9:00am and bring gloves and water. Nuala has organized this in response to so many people expressing concern about the trash.
Title: Re: JH needs local leadership
Post by: CaptainFlannel on July 30, 2020, 10:19:55 AM
It seems like the complaint here is that our local leaders haven't planted a money tree grove in Travers Park to fund sanitation and homeless services in the neighborhood. Someone should get on top of that to fix the budget shortfall that inconvenient global pandemic caused.
Title: Re: JH needs local leadership
Post by: 80JHer on July 30, 2020, 08:05:42 PM
The complaint here is we have 100k tax paying citizens here in JH.  A large part of that tax revenue goes to homeless services.  So where is it?  Show me the money!  Or if you can’t then  get me a local leader that can advocate for local tax money to be used in the community. 

All of us have paid plenty in taxes to address this
Title: Re: JH needs local leadership
Post by: CaptainFlannel on July 31, 2020, 08:41:47 AM
^I guess people making that complaint somehow didn't notice the epidemic that has swept the country, disrupted the economy, driven down tax revenue, and totally gutted city, state and federal budgets. I envy that ability to live in a worry-free bubble.
Title: Re: JH needs local leadership
Post by: N00b on July 31, 2020, 11:05:55 AM
So the concern is that your streets are dirty not that there are human beings living in the streets. got it got it.
Title: Re: JH needs local leadership
Post by: ClydeM on July 31, 2020, 05:53:17 PM
The entire situation seems to be getting worse since the first post was made, and we can add a noticeable spike in crime as well. Our local officials are basically useless. Danny Dromm will at least respond and then do nothing, but if you are unfortunate enough to live in Moya's district, good luck to you. He can't be bothered unless it involves some sort of feel good photo op.
Title: Re: JH needs local leadership
Post by: jasonic on July 31, 2020, 10:20:55 PM
Also what’s the deal with the late night explosion fireworks.

Those that aren’t noticing it’s getting worse here aren’t paying attention. Those that are telling those that are complaining about it to become “Leaders” and do something. Give me a break.
Title: Re: JH needs local leadership
Post by: Beherenow on August 03, 2020, 08:28:50 PM
^I guess people making that complaint somehow didn't notice the epidemic that has swept the country, disrupted the economy, driven down tax revenue, and totally gutted city, state and federal budgets. I envy that ability to live in a worry-free bubble.

Thanks, Captain Flannel.  People in this community are calling for more funding to help re-open schools, more COVID 19 testing, more garbage pick-up, public toilets,  more affordable housing, more this, more that,...I don't disagree with any of it, but marvel at their ability to blithely ignore the crippled financial condition of this city, state and country.
Title: Re: JH needs local leadership
Post by: CaptainFlannel on August 04, 2020, 04:00:01 PM
^It's like a little kid not understanding why because one of his parents lost her job, his birthday party had to be scaled down when his brother's held six months earlier was a blow out. How deep a hole in the sand do you have to dig to not notice what's going on (and will probably get worse)?