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Title: Epstein suicide
Post by: petster on August 10, 2019, 08:02:01 PM
Why did I expect this? Wasn't he on suicide watch. How does this happen to such a high profile sex offender?  Another one bites the dust in connection to the Clintons. When does it become mathematically impossible?
Title: Re: Epstein suicide
Post by: sl on August 10, 2019, 08:58:12 PM
Why did I expect this? Wasn't he on suicide watch. How does this happen to such a high profile sex offender?  Another one bites the dust in connection to the Clintons. When does it become mathematically impossible?

He was killed so he can’t name names.
Title: Re: Epstein suicide
Post by: dssjh on August 10, 2019, 09:27:10 PM
when a sitting president has connections in both the russian and italian mobs, and the jail is run by the Department of Justice, it was only a matter of time before he was suicided.
Title: Re: Epstein suicide
Post by: hfm on August 10, 2019, 10:19:06 PM
The Clintons? Come on. Do you really think this pasty-white old rich dude wanted to spend his life behind bars as a child sex offender. After having so much luxury as to have his own private jet? There's no way he was going to live out his days that way. He was doing it first chance he had. He already tried once.

People also seem to be forgetting the Trump connection to him in their speed to creating yet more idiotic conspiracy theories about the Clintons. But of course the uneducated sheepish masses will just latch onto that and froth at the mouth since it confirms bias.
Title: Re: Epstein suicide
Post by: Jhx on August 10, 2019, 11:16:23 PM
Yes, it just seems to be a convenient end to a messy detail. Only facilitated by the Foundation perhaps?
Title: Re: Epstein suicide
Post by: Jhx on August 10, 2019, 11:18:24 PM
And what is it with the fascination, obsession, with The President and the Russians?
Title: Re: Epstein suicide
Post by: dssjh on August 11, 2019, 09:53:17 AM
And what is it with the fascination, obsession, with The President and the Russians?

you mean the three decades where he teamed with the russian and italian mafia to build his substandard buildings -- like the sprinkler-free Trump Tower, where his neglect killed a resident?

those are russian-american mobsters. criminals who live here. not the government of another country. just like the italian-american mobsters, who don't have much to do with that country's government.

https://www.vox.com/world/2018/9/12/17764132/trump-fbi-russia-new-york-times-craig-unger
Title: Re: Epstein suicide
Post by: CaptainFlannel on August 12, 2019, 06:47:44 AM
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And what is it with the fascination, obsession, with The President and the Russians?

You really need this explained to you with Russian interference in our elections undermining the very foundations of our democracy?
Title: Re: Epstein suicide
Post by: JK resident on August 12, 2019, 09:00:40 AM
Why does anyone connected to the Clintons who gets into trouble with the law and is under investigation turn up dead by suicide? BTW I don’t know and have never met the Clintons (don’t want to found face down in a pool accident).
Title: Re: Epstein suicide
Post by: Jhx on August 12, 2019, 09:09:31 AM
I guess after more than a two year investigation into the Russian Trump collusion, you must know more than anybody. Please share
Title: Re: Epstein suicide
Post by: carrefour_ny on August 12, 2019, 09:25:32 AM
A lot is known. Here, for when you're ready to face reality:

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2019/images/04/18/mueller-report-searchable.pdf
Title: Re: Epstein suicide
Post by: abcdefghijk on August 12, 2019, 09:45:31 AM
A lot is known. Here, for when you're ready to face reality:

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2019/images/04/18/mueller-report-searchable.pdf

What's clear to me is that there is very little political will or energy to care about Russian interference. Folks seem to be exhausted by the neurotic daily flood of new challenges and problems.

It's kinda  like living in washing machine set on an endless spin cycle.

Title: Re: Epstein suicide
Post by: Jhx on August 12, 2019, 09:57:00 AM
Exactly. He was cleared of collusion and obstruction. But like the washing machine, it goes around and around and around…
Title: Re: Epstein suicide
Post by: abcdefghijk on August 12, 2019, 10:37:16 AM
Leaving collusion/non collusion accusations out of it...

Folks don't seem to care that Mueller did say, pretty clearly, that Russia interfered in the 2016 election.
Or actually we don't seem to have a clue what to do about it.

Title: Re: Epstein suicide
Post by: Chingwa on August 12, 2019, 01:52:56 PM
I thought we were talking about Epstein here... silly me... turns out it's just another thread degenerating into Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Title: Re: Epstein suicide
Post by: JHResident on August 12, 2019, 05:05:01 PM
Exactly. He was cleared of collusion and obstruction. But like the washing machine, it goes around and around and around…
Trump was not cleared of either. Collusion is not a criminal offense. Judge Mueller very clearly said that Trump was not charged with obstruction of justice because his bosses told him that a sitting president cannot be charged with obstruction of justice. That is not the same as being cleared. Judge Mueller also seemed to say in his testimony to Congress that if Trump had not been president he could have been charged with obstruction, but he may have misunderstood what the congressman was asking. Either way not being charged is not the same as being cleared, just as Epstein was not cleared of his charged because he wasn't found guilty.
Title: Re: Epstein suicide
Post by: deja on August 12, 2019, 09:36:04 PM
Mueller is not and never has been a judge.  He is a prosecutor.  By their nature prosecutors do not exonerate or clear.