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Get Connected => Restaurants & Food => Topic started by: KGDHP on April 18, 2019, 06:35:56 PM
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Noticed a sign up in the former Appetito store. Anyone know anything about it? And YES to cheese!!!
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Cheese is a dying food market. I predict within 10 years, half the population will look at cheese in disgust as more become educated on the goodness of plant based foods. After all, cheese is made from the milk of cows (usually) whose milk is meant for their newborns... but instead stolen so humans can make dairy products from it. Imagine that! Soon we will have cheese museums and meat museums so future generations can see just how barbaric this generation was.
Totally not for a cheese store in this neighborhood.
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the only really moral diet is the Jain one. no root veg, since we kill billions of living creatures yearly by using root vegetables.
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Well, I for one am thrilled with the new addition. I love cheese, I won't hate it in 10 years, and I strive every day to have a positive and welcoming outlook, unlike you two.
Welcome to the neighborhood.
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I hope they carry compte. No compte for miles. I found it last in LIC seven years ago.
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Well, I for one am thrilled with the new addition. I love cheese, I won't hate it in 10 years, and I strive every day to have a positive and welcoming outlook, unlike you two.
Welcome to the neighborhood.
i like cheese, too. very much. love D'Espana, and look forward to this new option.
and if you don't milk cows, they explode. don't they?
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Cheese is a dying food market. I predict within 10 years, half the population will look at cheese in disgust as more become educated on the goodness of plant based foods. After all, cheese is made from the milk of cows (usually) whose milk is meant for their newborns... but instead stolen so humans can make dairy products from it. Imagine that! Soon we will have cheese museums and meat museums so future generations can see just how barbaric this generation was.
Totally not for a cheese store in this neighborhood.
What about the poor almonds? They didn't even ask to be milked!
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Great.
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What about the poor almonds? They didn't even ask to be milked!
And soybeans too! Ripped from their mother's breast only to be exploited as milk and tofu.
I look forward to a good cheese shop.
Hope they'd carry decent olives as well. This morning I noticed that neither Food Town or Dynasty are now carrying much beyond pre-packaged and canned olives. When Dynasty had originally reopened they had a well-stocked mix & match olive bar. Long gone.
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I look forward to a good cheese shop.
Hope they'd carry decent olives as well.
Such a small store though. Earlier someone wrote that it would be an Italian deli, so maybe it will have a Mediterranean locus.
I promised to make my son pancetta N peas pasta. But where to find pancetta. The three La Nueva paneterrias in the 80s carry prosciutto but not pancetta.
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I look forward to a good cheese shop.
Hope they'd carry decent olives as well.
Such a small store though. Earlier someone wrote that it would be an Italian deli, so maybe it will have a Mediterranean locus.
I promised to make my son pancetta N peas pasta. But where to find pancetta. The three La Nueva paneterrias in the 80s carry prosciutto but not pancetta.
In my opinion a small, well curated cheese shop is far better than a large one that is uninteresting. East Village Cheese was about the same size and awesome until they got priced out.
Sorriso in Astoria can sell you all the pancetta you need. Also, the butcher in Grand Central Market has surprisingly good prices for pancetta when they have it in stock.
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I can't really attest to its quality.....but Foodtown has pancetta.
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The sign also states 'cured meats and bread'
If done right, this could be a good business. I had once recommended this type of place, in an old thread of ' what JH needs' I envisioned a more specialized version of Lemon Tres, but more offerings than Despana. Looking forward to it.
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the owner of Appetito referred to it as an Italian deli in a couple of conversations i had with her. i'm guessing that may be the case.
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I can't really attest to its quality.....but Foodtown has pancetta.
They have something pancetta like. Just as they have many things that are cheese like at their new(ish) cheese counter. The fact of the matter is that NONE of the grocery stores in the immediate area have managers or buyers that can negotiate common place foodstuffs that somehow remain exotic around here. We could really use a small, dedicated store that sells such things run by someone that is knowledgeable. I hope that whomever takes over the Appetitto space can do that, but I'm cautious of being too optimistic.
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Cheese is a dying food market. I predict within 10 years, half the population will look at cheese in disgust as more become educated on the goodness of plant based foods. After all, cheese is made from the milk of cows (usually) whose milk is meant for their newborns... but instead stolen so humans can make dairy products from it. Imagine that! Soon we will have cheese museums and meat museums so future generations can see just how barbaric this generation was.
Totally not for a cheese store in this neighborhood.
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Actually, cows didn’t exist until we humans bred them from oxen for their milk, so the argument that their milk is only for baby cows is a bit disingenuous-without milk for human consumption there would not be a baby cow.
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I really do hope they are successful bc it appears it's a young couple that owns it. Must be a tough business though... I guess it will go hand in hand with Table Wine which appears to be a sustainable business. If I were them, I'd do a lot of outreach at Table Wine, Queensboro, Farine. Maybe make a branded Stand Alone plate.
I did go into the foodtown yesterday and they actually do have a healthy cheese selection. No one to talk to about it but yeah there's a bunch..
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Foodtown's cheese counter is actually decent -- good, by supermarket standards. a nice selection of stiltons and cheddars (had a very nice whiskey washed one last week) and some decent triple cremes. it's kind of random in terms of stocking, but i usually find something worth picking up.
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I hope they carry compte. No compte for miles. I found it last in LIC seven years ago.
Every cheese shop and most grocery stores in NYC sell comte, including food town.
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I hope they carry compte. No compte for miles. I found it last in LIC seven years ago.
Every cheese shop and most grocery stores in NYC sell comte, including food town.
I haven't had good luck with cheese at Food Town. It always tastes like it has been frozen and defrosted several times.
I go to Despana fairly frequently for cheese. The selection is really good and the prices are stupidly low, but I'm looking forward to another place that isn't limited to Spanish cheeses.
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Im excited about a new cheese shop and hope they succeed. I think they will be selling quality foods to go with the cheese.
Considering we leave in the cheap chicken capital of Queens I think any different addition to the hood should be applauded.
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They have Comte at Key Food on Northern and 86th by the deli counter.
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They have Comte at Key Food on Northern and 86th by the deli counter.
Thank you. I wonder if they also carry Raclette. I don't travel north to shop; my routine is always south but I'll have to check it out.
Key Food Fresh at 46th and Queens Blvd. has an awesome cheese section. Key def buys these imports, but not all Keys sell them. Not to be found at Key on 90th off Roosie. Maybe different franchisees.
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Finally made a right turn to Key Food on Northern & 86th. No French imports in the cheese section, not today anyway. At least four Greek cheeses though, a Spanish one or two, and the usual Dutch and Italian.
Looking forward to Stand Alone Cheese opening.
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they've put up a fresh awning and they had the blinds open today....it doesn't look radically different in terms of layout, but i think the shelving along the wall (for non refrigerated items) is new. so it looks like it won't be too long.....
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Cheese is a dying food market. I predict within 10 years, half the population will look at cheese in disgust as more become educated on the goodness of plant based foods.
Nice try, but your vegan propaganda is incorrect.
The cheese industry in the US has increased in value by 10.7% over the last 5 years and is only getting stronger now that low-carb/keto diets are becoming more mainstream. Milk is becoming less popular, but the cheese industry has not been affected by the population's interest in decreasing dairy consumption.
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Cheese. Hooray! ;D
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Seems like they might be opening this Saturday! I hope that they sell lots of different things
and as has been mentioned, that they dovetail nicely with Table Wine in a being a destination
for informed sales help from knowledgeable owners.
Really looking forward to this one...
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the gentleman at Table Wine said they're likely to be working together. in fact, he's the one who encouraged the new proprietor to take a shot with the space. looking forward to it!
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Stopped by today, it seems they will carry Fulvi a very nice Pecorino Romano that is made near Rome and not too salty. It is what we use to make Cacio-e-Pepe! This is very good news!
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Table Wine confirms Stand Alone's grand opening tomorrow!
(https://i.imgur.com/rpQc7Vn.jpg)
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I appreciate the not-so-subtle hidden message!
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Looks good Cant wait to try!
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stopped in this morning, and got my silver medal as the second paying customer :)
the cheese selection is very nice, varied, and reasonably priced. got a nice funky Italian cow's milk for 16 per pound. the proprietors are knowledgeable, and there are written flavor profile descriptions on some of the lesser known options (and samples being offered).
the pantry items also look good...didn't bring anything home, but a wide variety of jams, pickled things, veggies and nuts on display.
wishing them the best of luck!
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I'm looking forward to getting a spread next time I have a bunch of friends over. Maybe I won't be a regular but I'm happy to support them and try it out.
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A great addition to the neighborhood, JH now has a serious cheese store!
Excellent selection: fresh ricotta, mozzarella, several good blues, English cheddar, 24 month comté, etc, etc. Plus interesting condiments, jams, crackers & more.
The owners are a very nice young couple who really have created something special.
Spread the word
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Very excited for this! Bought a few things yesterday to host a couple friends for snacks after the parade. Had some of the Manchego yesterday and a very fresh baguette! Both delicious! Trying the Taleggio and the Ossau Iraty, today.
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Great addition to JH. Bought a delicious sour dough bread with cheese (tre leche) and a comte. Everything was pin point perfect Wishing the owners the best of luck!!!
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It is closed on Mondays.
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It is closed on Mondays.
I too discovered this, the hard way.
If anyone has a phone number for Stand Alone Cheese, please post it here. Thanks.
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It is closed on Mondays.
I too discovered this, the hard way.
If anyone has a phone number for Stand Alone Cheese, please post it here. Thanks.
929-296-9000
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(https://i.imgur.com/iMqvf7S.jpg?1)
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P.S. The only reason it says: "Closed Now" on the image above is because I took the screenshot at a time before they opened for the day.
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Well, I for one am thrilled with the new addition. I love cheese, I won't hate it in 10 years, and I strive every day to have a positive and welcoming outlook, unlike you two.
Welcome to the neighborhood.
i like cheese, too. very much. love D'Espana, and look forward to this new option.
and if you don't milk cows, they explode. don't they?
Are people really this clueless in 2019? Cows bred for dairy production are kept confined and are constantly impregnated so that they continue to produce milk around the clock for their babies but those babies never get the milk. Their young are ripped away within hours of birth, the females are destined for the same fates as their mothers while the males are sold for slaughter as veal. Not rocket science, people. Veal is young cow, mammals produce milk to nourish their young just like humans. So next time you guzzle that nasty glass of hormones and mucous think about a cow sucking a human teet, or an udder or something. Eye roll.
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the Jains know that the average person kills millions of innocent living creatures each and every week by eating root vegetables. if you can live with that, i can live with suckling a cow booby, a cow suckling mine, or whatever. cheers.
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the Jains know that the average person kills millions of innocent living creatures each and every week by eating root vegetables. if you can live with that, i can live with suckling a cow booby, a cow suckling mine, or whatever. cheers.
I think the real issue is maybe that none of those scenarios are natural or sensible. But then - consumers these days are increasingly gullible and assume everything in the world is theirs for the taking so not too surprising. After all- they don’t call us consumers for nothing.
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Jains find it sensible to honor life by eschewing root veg. if you only honor the lives of certain creatures, that's your choice.
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Jains find it sensible to honor life by eschewing root veg. if you only honor the lives of certain creatures, that's your choice.
Hard to stay on topic when you know you’re wrong, I guess...
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you don't get to decide the parameters of the topic.
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Hard to stay on topic when you know you’re wrong, I guess...
I remember you - you posted here when you were trying to dump your poor cat because you gave up on him. How ironic considering you are a self-professed animal lover.
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Well, I for one am thrilled with the new addition. I love cheese, I won't hate it in 10 years, and I strive every day to have a positive and welcoming outlook, unlike you two.
Welcome to the neighborhood.
i like cheese, too. very much. love D'Espana, and look forward to this new option.
and if you don't milk cows, they explode. don't they?
Are people really this clueless in 2019? Cows bred for dairy production are kept confined and are constantly impregnated so that they continue to produce milk around the clock for their babies but those babies never get the milk. Their young are ripped away within hours of birth, the females are destined for the same fates as their mothers while the males are sold for slaughter as veal. Not rocket science, people. Veal is young cow, mammals produce milk to nourish their young just like humans. So next time you guzzle that nasty glass of hormones and mucous think about a cow sucking a human teet, or an udder or something. Eye roll.
OMG why are you so miserable? Clearly we have different tastes and I do not need your "holier-than-thou" attitude telling me what I should think or feel. I like cheese. UNAPOLOGETICALLY. I am glad you have a standard of ethics that you abide by, but you don't need to impose them on me or anyone else here.
I'll say it again for the people in the back:
I!
LOVE!
CHEESE!
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Sorry to interrupt the debate about ethical food but...the shop is a lovely addition to the neighborhood. Bought some nice pain d'Avignon and Jersey Cow cheese. Have been trying to wean myself off cheese for my diet and this place will make it more difficult, but am still glad it's here. It deserves support...
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I was able to visit the new cheese shop, and I am so happy it is here + open!
They have a good selection of different cheeses, as well as some dried sausages & even a country pate.
The bread selection was also good, I purchased a baguette, but saw they also had other types of loaves available. Just stopping there inspired me to pick up a few things, and we enjoyed a nice lunch at home.
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Really wonderful little shop. these folks are full of knowledge and passion about the product they sell, and contrary to a lot of what is being said here, the farmers that produce a majority of their cheeses treat their animals more ethically than can be said about any of the meat served at every single other grocery store and restaurant in Jackson Heights. I'm not sure why the conversation about this shop has gone in this direction, but not every other spot discussed here. Grass is often what makes cheese taste good, grass means access to pasture. Anyway, back to the topic at hand. This place is a wonderful addition to the neighborhood. Now we just need a fish market and decent butcher shop and we will be all set!
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it should also be noted that the proprietors are both very gracious and good with customer service -- something that's not always a given for first-time shop owners. was in last night just before the scheduled closing time, and there were three or four customers, and all of us were treated really nicely and not rushed out the door (as is often the case at places that put a super-hard close on closing time).
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Are people really this clueless in 2019? Cows bred for dairy production are kept confined and are constantly impregnated so that they continue to produce milk around the clock for their babies but those babies never get the milk. Their young are ripped away within hours of birth, the females are destined for the same fates as their mothers while the males are sold for slaughter as veal. Not rocket science, people. Veal is young cow, mammals produce milk to nourish their young just like humans.
I appreciate your enthusiasm and am open to learning and being aware. If you would discuss without being punitive, you would get more value out of your post.
I won't link the fa!rlife/Fair Oaks Farms video cuz it's disturbing, but here's an article about it: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/after-undercover-video-exposes-animal-abuse-at-fair-oaks-farms-grocery-store-removes-products/
ndumont, do you know if dairy farms in Europe are also known to be so cruel? Is the USA particularly egregious? I wonder if stuff like this is in part why Canada was not willing to buy our milk.
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If you feel strongly about how the cows are treated, and I do wish more people thought about it, you can buy milk from smaller dairies that take better care of their animals. Ronnybrook, for example.
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I really like this place! The owners are super friendly and they have put together a well rounded and thought out selection. The prices are reasonable, and while Despana will remain my go to for Spanish cheeses, Stand Alone will save me trips to Manhattan and Astoria for French and Italian.
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I saw that Espresso 77 is partnering with them for their cheese boards. A perfect match. it's always nice to see local businesses supporting each other.
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Now they have several nice sandwiches. Prosciutto/Mozzarella, Gruyère/Ham and a Mozzarella/ tomato. Very tasty.
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It took us a while, but we finally stopped by Stand Alone Cheese today for their house-made mozzarella to pair with farmers' market heirloom tomatoes and basil. We bought two balls so looking forward to enjoying again tomorrow.
The couple who owns Stand Alone were extremely welcoming. Their cheese was wonderful.
(https://drive.google.com/file/d/1k5gIphGk0c8od-4pOUi1JvNT5ZLC1tmy/view?usp=sharing)
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They now have Smoked Whitefish Salad and Herring Salad. Both products are from Acme Smoked Fish in Greenpoint, Brooklyn. I picked up the Smoked Whitefish Salad which is in a 7 oz container and its incredibly good.
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I hope we're all shopping at Stand Alone Cheese. I returned for the Swiss (not French) raclette, which is usually hard to find. We're really lucky to have this shop. When I go there I always seem to see the same two or three customers :). I hope there are more of us.
I want to buy a low alcohol content white wine. Does anyone have a recommendation?
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i'm a regular, and since i work at home, i end up there at off hours and see the same people as well. Steffan says things are usually busier in the after work hours, and it looks like stuff is selling (a couple of my favorites have sold out here and there). he's also hiring, which is a good sign.
in terms of wines, Rieslings are a good bet. i've found that German Kabinett Rieslings are at the low alcohol end, as a rule.
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i've found that German Kabinett Rieslings are at the low alcohol end, as a rule.
Thank you so much. I found this article which backs you up (altho Reisling from Washington State is high alc). https://winefolly.com/tutorial/the-lightest-to-the-strongest-wine/
I usually spritz my wine, sometimes to add bubbles and always to lower alcohol ratio. I'm thinking of spritzing a Reisling to go even lower. I like wine but I'm weird because I don't like feeling buzzed.
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We discovered this lovely little cheese shop over the summer and we try to stop in and support them buy buying cheese, which we love! We've also bought honey, peach preserves, baguettes and sandwiches there. They're a nice addition to the neighborhood.