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Title: Travers Park Update
Post by: Scott on December 04, 2016, 11:33:21 AM
City: Travers Park rebuild won't completed until 2018
NYC Parks has completed the design phase of the long-awaited Travers Park renovation about a year behind schedule, according to the Jackson Heights Post. The Travers Park reconstruction attempts to unify Travers Park, the 78th Street Pedestrian Plaza and Staunton Field into one, much-greener recreation area with a minimum of fences separating it from the surrounding streets and community.

update from JHBG
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: lmaniace on December 09, 2016, 12:03:46 PM
Unfortunately, the construction has been delayed again and now won't start until 2018. Just heard this from NYC Parks' District Manager for our area of Queens. It's supposed to be done in phases so some of the park is open at all times, but that also means the work will take longer since they are not working on all of it at once.
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: MrPlaza on December 10, 2016, 02:23:01 AM
Unfortunately, the construction has been delayed again and now won't start until 2018. Just heard this from NYC Parks' District Manager for our area of Queens. It's supposed to be done in phases so some of the park is open at all times, but that also means the work will take longer since they are not working on all of it at once.
This is insanely disappointing. This rebuild was part of what our future move to JH so appealing.
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: ShinjukuBaby on January 02, 2017, 07:10:08 AM
I've waited this long so I can keep waiting, but this seems crazy.  Why the delay?
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: European on March 05, 2018, 03:56:47 PM
What is going on in Travers Park?
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: JHMNY on March 05, 2018, 04:20:03 PM
What is going on in Travers Park?

The Jackson Heights Green Alliance (http://jhgreen.org/) sent out an update on the work scheduled for Travers Park back in late December, 2017.  If you click on the Alliance's link, you'll see the same content from that e-mail.  And according to the NYC Parks Department (https://www.nycgovparks.org/planning-and-building/capital-project-tracker/project/6276), the construction phase is to begin this month.

Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: jackinjh on March 05, 2018, 04:47:33 PM
There already flyers between 78th and 79th street on 34th ave regarding no parking on Sunday for farmer market.

The website estimate the construction to take 1.5 yr, hope it will be on time.
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: JHMNY on March 05, 2018, 04:56:53 PM
And here's an update regarding the Sunday JH Greenmarket from the Jackson Heights Beautification Group:

(https://i.imgur.com/RtUS3WU.jpg)
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: 80JHer on March 06, 2018, 09:20:37 AM
A year and half to just complete the green lawn? Or a year and half to do the whole thing including the new toddler playground?  How can these projects take so long?
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: itsit on March 06, 2018, 03:52:57 PM
 Didn't get a photo yet but the work at Travers Park has begun! Can someone post what it looks like.
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: BennyB on March 07, 2018, 12:52:34 PM
There's a backhoe sitting on the concrete near where they play volleyball
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: Ed on March 07, 2018, 06:11:42 PM
A year and half to just complete the green lawn? Or a year and half to do the whole thing including the new toddler playground?  How can these projects take so long?

You know the CHEAP FAST GOOD triangle, right?
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: JHResident on April 22, 2018, 08:27:59 PM
The Jackson Heights Post has an update on the parking renovation. Apparently the official groundbreaking wasn't until last Friday. A picture is posted in a link in the article. Looks like my tennis playing friends will lose their blacktop tennis court, and the SJA girls softball teams will need a new home. https://jacksonheightspost.com/reconstruction-of-travers-park-is-underway
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: JHResident on April 22, 2018, 08:29:57 PM
Park, not parking.
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: 80JHer on April 23, 2018, 01:27:08 PM
I still can’t wrap my head around this taking over a year.  Won’t be complete until 2019!!    The Empire State Building was built in a year, get it done you lazy nyc unions. It’s a field and some Astro turf.
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: hum@njukebox1 on April 23, 2018, 01:41:56 PM
It's not going to be grass?  It's going to be Astro turf?
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Post by: dssjh on April 23, 2018, 01:50:31 PM
I still can’t wrap my head around this taking over a year.  Won’t be complete until 2019!!    The Empire State Building was built in a year, get it done you lazy nyc unions. It’s a field and some Astro turf.

the empire state building was built with union labor. try another insult.
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: 80JHer on April 23, 2018, 03:03:42 PM
That is the insult.  The same union was able to build an iconic skyscraper in a year.  You would think 90 years later they could lay down some Astro turf and put in a grass field in significantly less time. Something is very wrong with the speed In construction these days
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: Lilybell on April 23, 2018, 03:37:54 PM
Government procurement is a slow, broken process. A simple thing like one small portion of an insurance certificate expiring can cause a delay until it's renewed. There are usually multiple agencies involved, which makes things even slower. There are so many little things that cause major delays that I personally think it's a miracle any time a project gets completed. There is just so much red tape.




Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: dssjh on April 23, 2018, 04:27:30 PM
agreed, Lilybell. it's the white collar paper pushers causing delays, not the unions.
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: sl on April 23, 2018, 05:23:38 PM
agreed, Lilybell. it's the white collar paper pushers causing delays, not the unions.

How do you know this?
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: dssjh on April 23, 2018, 07:05:29 PM
i'm using the same body of evidence as the person i am debating. you look at it and decide which of us is closer to being accurate.

see also: Swim Two Birds, The Queensboro.
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: petegart on April 23, 2018, 07:22:23 PM
The playground renovation that was done on 34th Ave and Junction Blvd seemed to be completed very quickly.  Every week when driving by -we would see people actively working and the final results look great.  I am optimistic that this will be finished on-time and create a park that will be used by more people.  (Fingers crossed)
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: lmaniace on April 28, 2018, 01:58:14 PM
IMHO. there are lots of reasons why Travers Park reconstruction is slower than hoped for, and I don't think any of them are union related.
 First was the dispute between Park and Transportation Department over control/responsibility for play street, (which is transportation property.) That may sound silly to us, but when you have a department and a certain amount of money to spend, you don't want to get stuck with an open-ended financial liability, which brings us to the mysterious infrastructure beneath the ground that needs to be scouted out.
Also, government is slow compared to private industry because there is no need for public oversight there.
Finally there is the requirement that at least part of the park remain open throughout the reconstruction. Back in the early-mid 1990s the park was rebuilt all at once and the contractor defaulted. The park was closed for three years if I correctly recall.
 
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: luckyghost on June 01, 2018, 01:27:19 PM
a little sad to see the shape of the "great lawn" emerging and how small it's to be relative to the space they cleared... lotta new concrete replacing the old asphalt
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: Lilybell on June 01, 2018, 02:07:59 PM
comment redacted due to my lack of reading comprehension... ;)
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: JHMNY on September 17, 2018, 09:16:07 PM
Stopped by Travers Park earlier today and took photos of the work in progress:

(https://i.imgur.com/phEK9IV.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/dNOqWVA.jpg)
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: abu benuska on January 09, 2019, 03:46:16 PM
Sad to see that half of the park looks almost done, but that construction has been essentially stopped for more than a month. Seems like they are waiting for better weather for the lawn? Is it going to be real grass? I looked up and the park won't be finished till September! Gosh, why does it take so long?

https://www.nycgovparks.org/planning-and-building/capital-project-tracker/project/6276
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: petster on January 10, 2019, 05:47:07 PM
From what I see, looks like a big improvement. If it turns out great, I don't mind the wait.  When the time comes, hope they green the Garden  School concrete jungle. Now that would be worth waiting for!
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: Di_11372 on January 10, 2019, 08:31:19 PM

Looks like they could finish before the September projection. & Yes, in winter months, this type of work does pause.
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: itsit on January 11, 2019, 04:08:57 PM
 It would be a travesty to keep the park closed for another summer. It looks so close to finished that seems unlikely but
no dates have been publicized for an opening in spring or summer. Lets hope something is announced soon.
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: European on January 11, 2019, 04:41:51 PM
Will they also remodel children's playground or this is it?
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: dssjh on January 11, 2019, 04:42:48 PM
the fact that large portions are set aside for use by children is a mitigating factor. those inspections, clearances, etc. are more closely examined.
Title: Re: Travers Park Update
Post by: lmaniace on January 11, 2019, 07:20:28 PM
Don't think NYC Parks ever said it was going to take less than 18 months to renovate Travers Park. The department always said they would renovate in phases so that some part of the park is *always open.
I don't see how the "Great Lawn atop Mount Jackson Heights" could possibly be open this year. The sod needs to be rolled out and have a growing season to properly root before people do what they do atop it. I don't know if that means it can open in the fall or next year.
To answer someone else's question, there is to be a completely seperate renovation of the kiddie area under a plan announced, I think, early last summer at the park. This came ab out when new funding became available.

*Back around 1994, the entire park was closed for 18 months to two years due to a problem with the contractor who had started the work and the job had to be rebid. We may justifiably complain about somethings, but NYC Parks is much better run the last couple of decades.