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Title: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: rosefarmer on November 23, 2014, 12:38:40 PM
Just passed the old YoYo Accessories store on 37th b/t 84th and 85th (south side), and there is a sign for a new restaurant coming soon called Oceanic Boil, with a picture of a lobster. Sounds like something exciting and different for the neighborhood. Anyone have any scoop??

-Kim
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: lalochezia on November 23, 2014, 01:17:03 PM
That is the best name for a restaurant I've heard in a while.

i) trenchant commentary on global warming?

Or

ii)  maybe it's a dermatology clinic for seafarers?
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: dssjh on November 23, 2014, 01:31:59 PM
sounds good. my guess is something akin to this flushing place, sort of a mixed bag of seafood boil?
http://www.yelp.com/biz/crazy-crab-flushing
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: Shelby2 on November 23, 2014, 02:07:35 PM
The company that filed the liquor license request is called Minh and Jimmy.  http://www.businesslookup.org/minh_and_jimmy_company_inc

I know Minh is a common Vietnamese first name, but other than that, I can't find any clues.

However, to continue with the speculating  :) maybe it's something like this Vietnamese Immigrants Carry on a Cajun Food Tradition (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/28/dining/28united.html?pagewanted=all)
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: madalyn on November 23, 2014, 04:31:14 PM
That is the best name for a restaurant I've heard in a while.

i) trenchant commentary on global warming?

Or

ii)  maybe it's a dermatology clinic for seafarers?

I agree - the name is unfortunate.  Sounds like a skin condition you get from swimming too much.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: jeanette on November 23, 2014, 05:10:45 PM
That is the best name for a restaurant I've heard in a while.

i) trenchant commentary on global warming?

Or

ii)  maybe it's a dermatology clinic for seafarers?

I agree - the name is unfortunate.  Sounds like a skin condition you get from swimming too much.

great staff (no, i didn't)
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: ptbass75 on November 23, 2014, 08:08:00 PM
Sure it wasn't a crayfish?  That's what i think of when i think of a boil.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: rosefarmer on November 24, 2014, 09:40:40 PM
Interesting about the Vietnamese/Crayfish boil mash-up. Must be a crayfish on the sign. Oh yes...that name!! Well, hope the food is a winner!
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: Jeffsayyes on November 24, 2014, 11:13:33 PM
My senses tell me it's going to be Vietnamese crab boil - which is awesome. I am curious that is located next to Saw Shack, and the logo seems similar.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: lvvs3 on February 18, 2015, 02:13:17 AM
The food is going to be a Winner for sure :) coming real soon once we get our liquor license we good to go hopefully this month of next month we good and running yes it going to be a seafoods joint Yes the owner is Vietnamese so am I going to be alot of mix yummy foods hope to see you all there soon! :) Thank for the support

Head waiter of Oceanic Boil Maggie please feel free to ask any questions :)
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: redge on February 18, 2015, 03:07:25 AM
The food is going to be a Winner for sure :) coming real soon once we get our liquor license we good to go hopefully this month of next month we good and running yes it going to be a seafoods joint Yes the owner is Vietnamese so am I going to be alot of mix yummy foods hope to see you all there soon! :) Thank for the support

Head waiter of Oceanic Boil Maggie please feel free to ask any questions :)

Thanks Ivvs3 for the update, I look forward to trying out your new restaurant.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: Jeffsayyes on February 18, 2015, 01:12:58 PM
Huge. Ivvs3, please do not tone down tastes!
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: ptbass75 on February 19, 2015, 08:43:26 PM
Not really familiar with what a Vietnamese seafood boil is, I did a little research on YouTube and came across this video. Is this what we can look forward to IVVS3? This looks fun!

http://youtu.be/Dr8VX5Z_EQA
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: Shelby2 on February 19, 2015, 09:47:35 PM
Not really familiar with what a Vietnamese seafood boil is, I did a little research on YouTube and came across this video. Is this what we can look forward to IVVS3? This looks fun!

http://youtu.be/Dr8VX5Z_EQA

Looks fun and delicious!
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: Jeffsayyes on February 20, 2015, 12:12:59 PM
Oh, I was thinking like the seafood boils that I had in New Orleans...


I am looking forward to whatever this is. Vietnamese + Ocean + Boil = great in my book


Here's something to think about:


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/28/dining/28united.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: Run2020 on February 20, 2015, 02:50:11 PM
I've actually considered opening up a New Orleans and Cajun/Creole based place (bar/restaurant) in Jackson Heights.  Those rents though!
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: cultartist on February 20, 2015, 03:30:31 PM
sounds like it might be a little like this joint.  one can only hope.
 http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2014/03/crazy-crab-flushing-restaurant.html
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: dssjh on February 20, 2015, 03:47:16 PM
lol. posted something similar on this thread back in november.....great minds think alike :)


Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: ptbass75 on February 20, 2015, 03:52:31 PM
Run2020, seems like 'those rents' are what is leading restauranteurs to consider Roosevelt and Northern, especially Northern. 

I also have to wonder about 82nd St. between Roosevelt and 37th Ave. About as busy as 74th St., 82nd only has fast food restaurants and a Columbian bakery. I wonder if anyone would consider making a sitdown restaurant there?  RadioShack is shutting its doors after all.  I'm not an old-time Jackson Heights resident so I wonder if there ever was any quality restaurants on that strip.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: Ed on February 20, 2015, 04:20:18 PM
According to the Kazantzakis book, yes. 82nd Street was filled with "boutiques, shops and restaurants". But, apparently, to desire that mix there now is courting gentrification and destroying the character of the neighborhood.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: redge on February 20, 2015, 04:59:14 PM
Run2020, seems like 'those rents' are what is leading restauranteurs to consider Roosevelt and Northern, especially Northern. 

I also have to wonder about 82nd St. between Roosevelt and 37th Ave. About as busy as 74th St., 82nd only has fast food restaurants and a Columbian bakery. I wonder if anyone would consider making a sitdown restaurant there?

There's a clothing store on 82nd that is closing. If I recall, the landlord wants $300,000 per year, or $25,000 per month, in rent.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: cultartist on February 20, 2015, 05:36:15 PM
Are stores on that street really doing $800 a day AFTER operating expenses (insurance. staff, stock)?  Hard to believe.  And, if not, back to the age old question--how DOES this high rent thing work?
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: ptbass75 on February 20, 2015, 06:45:29 PM
Redge, I believe you're referring to fever?  Nice big space, it would be perfect for a restaurant. Crazy insane rent price though! 
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: redge on February 20, 2015, 07:27:18 PM
Redge, I believe you're referring to fever?  Nice big space, it would be perfect for a restaurant. Crazy insane rent price though!

Yes, Fever. One of the problems with opening a restaurant there is, as you say, the rent. It's prohibitive.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: dssjh on February 20, 2015, 08:40:08 PM
According to the Kazantzakis book, yes. 82nd Street was filled with "boutiques, shops and restaurants". But, apparently, to desire that mix there now is courting gentrification and destroying the character of the neighborhood.
boutiques, shops and restaurants would be awesome. chipotle, panera and walgreens would not. we'll get the latter, not the former.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: Ed on February 21, 2015, 09:40:13 AM
But it doesn't have to be an either/or world, no change (particularly as change is inevitable, as proven by any trip down memory lane) or GlobalCorp. San Francisco, in particular (and not in isolation) has done a good job in its historic neighborhoods of incentivizing landlords to keep small businesses that flourished early in the neighborhoods history and allowing other new, small , local owner operated businesses to come in. You can encourage growth without encouraging cancer.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: Minimal4me on March 16, 2015, 10:04:26 PM
Is this restaurant opening?

Signs are now down.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: lvvs3 on April 10, 2015, 12:31:16 PM
Oceanic Boil ** our liquor license is approve !! :) hope to see you guys soon !! :)

HEAD waitress Maggie! :)
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: ptbass75 on July 27, 2015, 10:11:47 AM
Oceanic Boil ** our liquor license is approve !! :) hope to see you guys soon !! :)

HEAD waitress Maggie! :)

Any movement on this restaurant?
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: ljr on July 27, 2015, 09:59:03 PM
It's beginning to feel like these new restaurants that are supposedly on the way are actually pranks of some kind.

An alternative explanation is that it's actually impossible to pull off opening a new restaurant in JH. Although Bachue managed it. But their owners already had one or two restaurants in the neighborhood.

Where was this one supposed to be again?
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: ptbass75 on July 27, 2015, 11:09:47 PM
I'm with you LJR, this one's feeling like a bust to me. Our head waitress Maggie has not actively posted since April, and has only had two posts made.

Maybe our community board friends might actually know if this business has in fact recieved their liquor license.  And, if so, maybe Stew might want to talk with them in how they did it.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: itsit on July 28, 2015, 07:07:26 AM
 Maybe Redge* was on to something here with the improprieties and hurdles necessary to open a restaurant in JH. It would
seem like we had 3-4 interesting sounding new eateries in the pipelines but they have yet to debut. Why?

*language was over the top in some postings though
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: dssjh on July 28, 2015, 04:05:30 PM
to be fair, only Oceanic Boil sounds like an outright bust.

Dudley laid out a time frame for the Queensboro that reflected the need to build a restaurant from scratch in a total empty space, and his target opening is still a ways off.

Stew and company floated a fall opening, and it's hard to tell how close they'll be to that, what with the recent stop work order (which i presume has been addressed).

restaurants take time. approvals from CBs take time everywhere, as glances at restaurant industry or local websites reflect. there will be chow, at some point :)
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: Jeffsayyes on July 28, 2015, 08:53:12 PM
It sounds like a bust bc they haven't been responsive on Jackson Heights Life message boards?


It's funny how some restaurants just appear out of nowhere and others take forever to open.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: dssjh on July 28, 2015, 09:17:54 PM
it looks like a bust from the apparent lack of progress from the outside (haven't been privy to a look at the interior).
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: ljr on July 28, 2015, 09:18:50 PM
No, not because they are not talking on this message board, but because there is apparently no construction/renovation going on and no sign of anything happening for a very long time after the place was announced to be on its way. I don't even know where Oceanic Boil is supposed to be located, but someone said their sign had come down awhile ago. As for Dudley, doesn't his website say "Coming in mid-2015"? How is that "a ways off"? Unless I am not remembering correctly and it says mid-2016? It just really does seem to be extremely difficult to pull this off. Judging by the fact that nothing is happening in terms of renovation at Dudley's storefront, and it's said to be because of how long it takes to get permits, how in fact does anyone do this? It would seem as if you have to pay rent for a year or so before you can even renovate.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: Shelby2 on December 12, 2015, 07:03:54 PM
The space to the right of Saw Shack looks like  construction is moving along as some kind of restaurant. Isn't this the space  Oceanic Boil was supposed to occupy? Maybe it's coming after  all. Or I guess it could be some other new restaurant
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: lvvs3 on December 31, 2015, 06:28:37 PM
Hey guy thank for the support the nys won't give us the liquor license on some minor issues but everything is set and will be open soon please standby


  HEAD WAITER MAGGIE** OCEANIC BOIL
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: hfm on December 31, 2015, 07:42:42 PM
Hey guy thank for the support the nys won't give us the liquor license on some minor issues but everything is set and will be open soon please standby


  HEAD WAITER MAGGIE** OCEANIC BOIL

Can you perhaps share some detailed info on your liquor license issues? Seems some are having some troubles getting them lately.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: lvvs3 on December 31, 2015, 10:20:52 PM
When we did the interior as of the pictures placement of tables and chairs 17 tables and 32 chairs .since we had more space we added in more seats that changes.  So now we ha e to we do the drawing of it (nothing major ) it fixed just waiting on the certificate WE ARE ALMOST THERE :) soon GRAND OPENING OF OCEANIC BOIL please Standby  thank for all the support

HEAD WAITER MAGGIE
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: ljr on March 27, 2016, 02:58:29 PM
It's apparently real! I was convinced the whole thing was a hoax, but I just saw them working on their renovations, and they've put a sign in the window. It's right next door to Saw Shack. I'll be interested to see what it turns out to be.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: Minimal4me on March 27, 2016, 05:43:26 PM
Thanks for the update. I'm excited for this place to open!
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: toddg on March 27, 2016, 06:19:54 PM
JacksonHeights11372 Blog has the photographic evidence! (http://jacksonheights11372.blogspot.com/2016/03/finally-oceanic-boil-asian-cajun.html)
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: Breezie on March 27, 2016, 10:42:59 PM
Thanks for sharing the photographic evidence!
The backs of the seats are an interesting choice-look like scooters!
I'm looking forward to their opening.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: francis on March 28, 2016, 04:59:07 PM
Now this place sounds different and fun. Hope it does a good job in terms of the external renovations and give a facelift to an otherwise dreary block. The food sounds delicious, but that's a " to be determined"
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: CaptainFlannel on March 29, 2016, 08:57:29 AM
The TV though. Ugh. You know where I can watch TV any time I want? At home. People go out to restaurants for a different experience than eating take out in front of their TV.

My SO and I try to make a point of ignoring the TVs that proliferate like weeds in many of the neighborhood restaurants, but it can be next to impossible as the moving images really do capture your attention. Our worst experience was at a restaurant in another neighborhood we really, really loved. One wall had a big mirror, and after being open for about a year, some great thinker decided to add a TV on the other wall. So any time you were in the space you couldn't avoid seeing moving images. We stopped going.

I don't get it. TVs make sense at a sports bar. They don't make sense for most restaurants.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: Cassat on March 29, 2016, 10:29:48 AM
I couldn't agree with you more about TVs in restaurants, CaptainFlannel. I don't even have one at home.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: ljr on March 29, 2016, 10:33:10 PM
Yeah--is it just in JH? It seems like almost every restaurant has a TV now. Maybe it's because of the rise of screen culture--everyone is staring at their phones constantly so if they're not starting at their phone, say, because they are eating, they still need and expect a screen to stare at.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: ptbass75 on March 29, 2016, 10:51:52 PM
Maybe if we're lucky they'll show vintage vietnamese cinema or jazz reels.

I mean, one can hope.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: CaptainFlannel on March 31, 2016, 08:06:49 AM
I've seen the TV proliferation in other neighborhoods, but there seems to be a higher concentration in JH. I'm not sure if that's really the case, or my noticing it way more because I live here. I think it may be a reflection of the how the owner wants to position the restaurant -- TV = casual, maybe?

The worst experience so far was at El Rico Tinto. We were in there one day when not only was the TV on, but the volume was up loudly. And it just made eating a meal there very unpleasant that day. Fortunately, that doesn't seem to be the norm.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: Jeffsayyes on March 31, 2016, 10:21:31 PM
TVs really add to the experience of immersing in another culture - news, sports, music.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: CaptainFlannel on April 01, 2016, 10:03:39 AM
They really don't. Even if a restaurant owner had bad judgment enough to stick a TV in his or her dining establishment, it's usually not getting a satellite feed of Vietnamese TV or whatever country of origin the cuisine is from. And let me tell you something, a news cast from another country looks like a U.S. newscast, just sometimes with a different alphabet than Roman characters.

The only exception I can imagine -- and I see this more at bars that aren't trying to bring in the sports crowd or business crowd by day -- are places that run a loop on mute of say Kung Fu movies, or as someone else suggested vintage cinema, or something arty.

Dining out is not about starting blankly at moving images. Not even for someone who dines alone. It's about enjoying food, and connecting with the people you are with through food. Any restaurant owner who thinks a TV adds something needs their head examined.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: Superclam on April 01, 2016, 12:12:12 PM
TVs really add to the experience of immersing in another culture - news, sports, music.

I think artwork and/or music can add considerably more. It depends on the "feel" of the restaurant, of course.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: homeowner on April 01, 2016, 03:14:06 PM
I just don't understand the need for or the appeal of TVs in restaurants.  Even the Jackson House Diner has added them!  I still go there but it's a big disappointment.  Glad the Jax Inn hasn't gone that route...yet. 

The faces of patrons in the new Mario place on 37th are bathed in green light reflecting off the seemingly dozens of TVs usually showing sports.  Not flattering but the patrons seem not to mind.

A TV in a restaurant virtually guarantees I will not eat there.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: CaptainFlannel on April 01, 2016, 03:44:53 PM
TVs at a sports bar is the point of a sports bar. A place to go to watch sporting events with other sports lovers and where you can go with your friends and you don't need to clean up, prepare food, etc.

Restaurants aren't sports bars, and yes, yes, yes to the comment about art work and music adding 1 million times more to learning about a culture. (As if most of the restaurants that do this bother to pipe in satellite TV from another country).

Frankly, I think most restaurant owners who adds TVs to the restaurant probably have rocks in his or her head.

On a side note though, I actually don't mind the TVs at the Jackson House diner. They are on mute, up high (usually not in your line of sight), and air the news. I don't go to the Jackson House for its ambiance. I go for quick diner fare and the TVs don't disrupt the experience.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: Jeffsayyes on April 06, 2016, 01:27:44 AM
Something you may not realise is that they are also for the staff sometimes!
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: CaptainFlannel on April 06, 2016, 08:51:46 AM
TVs in the dining room for staff is absolutely not a thing in restaurants. Employees are not on the clock in a restaurant to watch TV. Front of house staff has plenty to do at a restaurant when there are customers in the dining room, and when there isn't any customers, they have plenty of prep work and cleaning to keep the dining experience pleasant and well run.

Any manager or owner foolish enough to install a TV for the benefit of staff needs his or her head examined. It's incredibly unprofessional, and a sign of a horrible business manager.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: Jeffsayyes on April 06, 2016, 12:57:41 PM
It absolutely is a thing, for the downtime. For soccer. For sports in general. Maybe not in Danny Meyer places, but it is here.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: Liz on April 06, 2016, 02:42:12 PM
Anyone who has walked around Jackson Heights during the soccer matches knows why so many places have TVs, and it seems like the patrons are very happy with the TVs. 
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: CaptainFlannel on April 06, 2016, 04:09:13 PM
No, I'm sorry, it's not a thing for employees. Any owner who would install TVs for employees to sit around and watch TV during down time -- when restaurant employees are supposed to be doing things like *cleaning* and *prep work* -- is a terrible business person who deserves to have his or her business fail.

This doesn't just go for Danny Meyers type places. If your employees have time to sit around and watch TV rather than clean to pass health inspections or do prep work to make sure service runs smoothly when customers are in the restaurant, than as a business owner you should recognize your business is in serious trouble. The only reason your staff would have all this free time that you pay them to watch TV is if the restaurant doesn't get enough business and you have over-staffed your failing business.

Further, any restaurant owner who would put in TVs for the benefit of his or her employees and ignore the negative impact it has on customers -- the people who pay everyone's wages -- is a terrible business person.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: petster on April 06, 2016, 08:59:17 PM
I don't think that any restaurant owner would tolerate their employees watching TV while working.  I totally understand TV's in sports bars where you eat and watch soccer, or baseball, or hockey. It's great fun.   If I'm going out to eat with friends and family, it is for me a big "NO NO". Your going for good food and to interact and enjoy the people you are with. The event is about the "food" For me, the TV's are a  visual and auditory distraction.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: Liz on April 21, 2016, 07:57:21 AM
There was a lot of activity there yesterday - it looks as if they will be opening soon!
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: CaptainFlannel on April 23, 2016, 06:59:00 PM
Sign up in the window today for a waitress.

As a side note, why in the world do business owners use such obviously gender specific language?
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: Ms. Jackson on April 23, 2016, 07:38:21 PM
Sign up in the window today for a waitress.

As a side note, why in the world do business owners use such obviously gender specific language?

Ignorance of the law.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: CaptainFlannel on April 23, 2016, 10:08:34 PM
I don't buy it. It has been prohibited to state a preference based on sex since 1964, in the very same act which prohibited stating a preference based on race, national origin, or religion. If they know they can't require "whites only" or state "no Irish need apply" (which I think they do) then they know they can't require specifically men or women for a position.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: dssjh on April 23, 2016, 10:19:21 PM
not everyone is aware of the intricacies of laws regarding every nuance of their profession/business.

and yes, i know ignorance of the law is not a legitimate defense in any court.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: CaptainFlannel on April 23, 2016, 10:33:09 PM
The Civil Rights Act isn't an intricacy of the law.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: dssjh on April 23, 2016, 10:44:13 PM
we're talking about people living in America in 2016.....you expect ninth grade level education, you're going to be disappointed.

The Civil Rights Act isn't an intricacy of the law.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: CaptainFlannel on April 23, 2016, 10:47:31 PM
Most people in America in 2016 know about the Civil Rights Act. They most certainly know what a protected class is.
(Except for mouth breathers)
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: dssjh on April 24, 2016, 12:01:40 AM
i admire your optimism.

i wish i shared it.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: ptbass75 on April 24, 2016, 11:43:37 AM
 It seems to be a common thing in this neighborhood, especially amongst Spanish-speaking restaurants. I see in the windows all the time  "Se necessita mesera."   I don't recall restaurants asking for waiters, or meseros, as well.

Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: CaptainFlannel on April 24, 2016, 12:28:04 PM
My guess would be that's a cultural thing. If there are strong gender roles culturally, I can see someone thinking they can just ignore that stating a gender requirement for a position is a-okay while stating "no blacks" or "Christians only" would not be.

People are pretty litigious, and I think they are perfectly aware that in housing and job applications and interviews, questions and requirements about race, religion, national origin, and sex gives an opening for a lawsuit. Why many restauranteurs are so stupid as to state they will only consider a certain gender for a particular position is puzzling.
Title: Re: Coming Soon: Oceanic Boil
Post by: ptbass75 on April 24, 2016, 10:23:59 PM
Why many restauranteurs are so stupid as to state they will only consider a certain gender for a particular position is puzzling.

It's also major Broadway productions!

http://www.classicalite.com/articles/40107/20160330/hamilton-non-whites-casting-call-violate-actor-equity-union-standards.htm