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Title: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Chuckster on January 16, 2008, 06:30:59 PM
I seem to have noticed that many people prefer Ricky's Cafe on 75th and 37th Ave. over City Coffee Shop, across from PS 69.  Aren't these establishments your typical, run of the mill coffee shop?  I have visited both, but since City is closer to my apartment, I have to admit that I stop by City more often.  Some of my neighbors have even expressed a preference for Ricky's.  Anyone wish to enlighten me?   ???
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: kate on January 16, 2008, 07:37:39 PM
I personally like both, City for breakfast and Rickys for lunch/dinner. I think that Rickys has more "exotic dishes" if you will. City, although they have some decent Mexican dishes, tends to be on the mundane side. Rickys mixes it up more.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Ernie on January 16, 2008, 09:32:43 PM
I agree with Kate. I like City for breakfast (fresh oj) and Ricky's for the rest.
 
What I like at Ricky's: Rice and black beans, Chicken Romano, chopped salad, chicken salad (very fresh).
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Chuckster on January 16, 2008, 10:19:53 PM
Thanks for the responses.  I tend to do breakfast more often than other meals at both of these places, but on a few occasions I have ordered the burger at City.  It's huge and the fries taste fresh, not from frozen.  I have noticed that during the evening hours, City seems to attract a few of the people from the classic character list mentioned in another post.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: MeliZoops on January 17, 2008, 06:19:35 AM
if we're going to talk "diners", which is really what ricky's and city cafe are...don't forget the Mark Twain Diner, JH's own typical Greek diner, on 73rd and Northern.

It's been good to me for the last 9 years.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: kate on January 17, 2008, 04:59:27 PM
I like Mark Twain as well. Seems it's been around forever. I think though it's more standard diner fare than Rickys or CC.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: MeliZoops on January 17, 2008, 06:55:41 PM
Yes, I agree...Mark Twain definitely has more standard fare, but it's a diner...it has diner food.

truth be told, since both City Coffee and Ricky's have a "latino" flare to their food...I would rather just go to one of the fantabulous dedicated ethnic restaurants in our hood or even a taco cart then settle for the mediocre special of the day at Ricky's... 

just my preference.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Chuckster on January 17, 2008, 11:34:37 PM
I stopped by the Mark Twain Diner about 2 weeks ago...this after a long hiatus for no specific reason.  This place has changed so much over the years.  Maybe it's just that I hadn't been there in so long, but everything looked so dirty.  Even the pattern on the carpeting was barely discernible under all the layers of dirt.   It's time for a clean-up.  Excluding us, there were only 2 or 3 other couples dining.

Meli, I agree with you in that I would not consider ordering beans and such in either Ricky's or City.  Breakfast and the occasional burger suits me just fine.  I don't know if you're into burgers, but the basic cheeseburger at City knocks the socks off of Mark Twain's!   ;)
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: JoeinQueens on January 18, 2008, 10:08:18 AM
Of all the diners, Jackson House on 37th Ave between 82nd & 83rd has the best food and friendliest staff.  I think it's much better then Jahn's and it's also one of the most packed diners around.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: kate on January 18, 2008, 08:45:53 PM
I have not been to Jackson House in ages, probably 2 or 3 years ago. Usually breakfast for me. I am absolutely in love with cafe 89, which has nice breakfast wraps. I think I will try JH just to see how it is these days.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Chuckster on March 09, 2008, 11:00:12 PM
Since this post is talking diners, I noticed there's no mention of Jackson Hole over on Astoria Blvd.  This is a diner, right?  I enjoy the breakfasts there as well.  Not a huge fan of the burgers though.  Much too big in my opinion.

What is it about diners/coffee shops that brings everyone together?  During breakfast earlier today, I happened to notice the place was full of people from all walks of life, many ethnicities, assorted age groups, etc.  I guess everyone likes ham and eggs...fruit plates for you non-meat/dairy eaters!  ;D
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: broad on March 19, 2008, 07:43:06 PM
Ricky's doesn't take cards, though they do have an excellent pork sandwich.  They have a more limited menu.  Also, though I love the people at City, I have never gotten out of there without them making a major, major mistake.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: andolicious on March 21, 2008, 12:30:04 PM
i kind of prefer city coffee over rickys. part of the reason being that my families close with the owner and its right around the corner from my house. i do like ricky's club sandwiches though but, doesnt it seem strange that each time it burned down they would renovate it and make new changes? insurance fraud? maybe not. oh man, the Jackson Hole! I havent been there in a while. I've actually been talking about it a lot lately. Maybe its time to go down there get a humongous burger and play bad music on the jukebox.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: buddy on March 21, 2008, 05:17:43 PM
I haven't been to any of the coffee shops in this area for ages.  But I do manage to go the Mark Twain at least once a month.  When I first moved here, I frequented the Jackson House but hated the canned veggies.  Next it was Jahn's.  I though they were a little better.  I went to Ricky's just once.  Long time ago.  Had one mediocre meal and never went back.  Those three experiences soured me on trying City or any others like that.  But it's been such a long time maybe they've gotten better.  I normally go to one of the bagel shops when I want breakfast and get egg/bacon sandwiches on the run.  I have an old fashioned definition for what I call a diner... it's a building standing by itself with a parking lot.  Maybe cuz I grew up in Jersey. So Ricky's and City and Jahn's are not diners to my mind.  Although they do have diner food.  So now what is diner food?  Breakfast, burgers, other food, salads, sandwiches???  I think I need John Prester's help.   The Georgia diner is pretty famous as far as diners go and fits my definition of stand alone building and parking lot.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Chuckster on March 21, 2008, 05:23:31 PM
Buddy, I spent many weekends hanging out at the Georgia diner with friends. We'd order the chicken parmagian and for dessert our selection was always the apple pie a la mode.  I had an iron stomach in my earlier days!
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: MarceloJH on July 01, 2008, 02:00:04 AM
This palce has been closed for more than a week now - I stopped by today and they said they were renovating   :D :D :D

I hope they reopen soon!

 ::)
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Birch-Ed on July 01, 2008, 07:12:43 AM
Didn't they renovate a couple of years ago?  I seem to remember them being closed for renovations.  I used to order hamburgers or the steak sandwiches from them years ago and had the order delivered.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: jeanette on July 07, 2008, 01:10:09 PM
Not crazy about diners, but in JH I would say Ricky's is my favorite because it is atypical. They claim their beans are not made with meat. Can I trust them?

I hope when it re-opens it is recognizable as the Ricky's I like.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Greentea822 on July 07, 2008, 01:25:25 PM
It's a bit of a hike from JH, but NY Style Eats is in Sunnyside, and they deliver.  We got addicted when we lived on 40th street, and have been ordering takeout for the past year.  they have pretty yummy sweet potato fries (you have to pop them in the toaster oven if you get takeout though - the burgers make them a little soggy), but worth the effort, I promise!  their bacon cheeseburgers are yummy, and everything comes with pickles and slaw!
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: KC on July 08, 2008, 09:16:18 PM
No mention of Jan's? 

You know... 50's retro diners are really "in' right now.  But Jan's is the real thing.  Authentically decorated in the 1950's.  :)

The food is decent diner food, the service is uneven, but generally good, and the people- watching is to die for. 
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: buddy on July 09, 2008, 03:49:21 PM
I only liked their breakfast not their lunches or especially dinners.  I remember canned veggies.. yuck.  But french fries go with everything so a sandwich and fries were also okay.  I don't think I'm a big diner person.  I prefer bagel shops.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: jennsch on July 09, 2008, 03:54:40 PM
Yeah, the people watching at Jahn's is good stuff but...canned mushrooms on the salads! I can't forgive it.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: JHICON on July 12, 2008, 04:14:45 PM
From JH

Ricky's

Other than JH
Pops Diner
and Georgia Diner - there breakfast is actually good and they have a good french toast.

Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Chuckster on November 01, 2009, 07:06:48 PM
From JH

Ricky's

Other than JH
Pops Diner
and Georgia Diner - there breakfast is actually good and they have a good french toast.

Went to Pop's Diner over in Elmhurst for breakfast today and was pleasantly surprised to find some Latino food offerings on the menu.  This is not common for diners.  Items on the menu included Ropa Vieja and Sancocho!  Pops also offers WiFi, and they advertise a comedy night too.  That's news to me!

It's been many years since the last time I was at Pops.  As a matter of fact, my last visit may have been when it was still the old Sage Diner.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: dssjh on November 01, 2009, 07:33:53 PM
the sage diner was an early touchstone for me. in my mid-teens, running around at all hours, their cheeseburgers were life altering. must try pops!
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Chuckster on November 01, 2009, 07:36:11 PM
the sage diner was an early touchstone for me. in my mid-teens, running around at all hours, their cheeseburgers were life altering. must try pops!

Me too dssjh!  A typical outing included The Rocky Horror Picture Show over at the Midway in Forest Hills and then breakfast at 2:00 a.m. at the Sage! 

Sorry for going off topic.   :embarassed:
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: dssjh on November 01, 2009, 08:58:39 PM
not off topic (i don't think)....yes, midnight shows in high school were so much fun!!!
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Jeffsayyes on June 05, 2010, 04:26:56 PM
do you like jackson house? pretty good american diner stuff. too bad the tree covers it.


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Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: terrencelee on June 05, 2010, 05:09:41 PM
theyre ok, just a generic diner...nothing to write home about but they do the trick :) i was actually there about an hour ago since our first attempt at breakfast failed miserably at Slims bagels. both our orders were f-ing horrible
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: toddg on June 05, 2010, 07:43:15 PM
Recently, I've gone to the Buccaneer Diner a couple of times (because they sponsored my son's little league team).  They're a pretty good classic diner.  Unfortunately, they're way up at 93rd Street and Astoria Blvd.  There are a bunch of other traditional diners around as well (Mark Twain Diner, Jackson Hole, Georgia Diner), but I haven't tried them recently.

Closer to home, another option for you might be City Coffee at 78th & 37th.

When we moved to the neighborhood about 7 years ago, there was a real dive of a diner at the corner where Seba Seba is located now.  It looked like its decor (and prices!) hadn't been updated since the 70's.  The food wasn't great, but the prices were right!  

If you want a really nice breakfast, try the La Flor Bakery in Woodside.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Griswold Contessa on June 05, 2010, 11:23:09 PM
If you don't mind a trip to 61st. and Roosevelt The Stop Inn has an amazing breakfast including a wonderful full Irish breakfast as well they are open 24 hours and if you're looking for a great burger this is the place!    :smitten:
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: divanatrix on June 06, 2010, 09:34:14 AM
Sorry, I have to say that the Mark Twain Diner is really really disgusting.  The wait staff looks like they haven't bathed in the last ten years.  We no longer go there. lol
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: dssjh on June 06, 2010, 11:13:54 AM
if that's a consideration, think you might starve to death in willamsburg!   :laugh:


Sorry, I have to say that the Mark Twain Diner is really really disgusting.  The wait staff looks like they haven't bathed in the last ten years.  We no longer go there. lol
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: divanatrix on June 06, 2010, 12:32:14 PM
Oh, it wasn't the usual gross Williamsburg Hipster grunge.  ;)  And it wasn't just the waitstaff that was disgusting.  But if you're into that sorta thing, enjoy!
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: dssjh on June 06, 2010, 01:26:32 PM
the stop inn is so wonderful. and yes, that burger is superb! they also make really good cole slaw, and offer a big portion on the burger deluxe platter. ooh, and the veggies on their dinner meals are actually cooked from scratch! the turnips alone get me coming back in the winter!
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: eddiestjohns on June 06, 2010, 03:22:58 PM
Sorry, I have to say that the Mark Twain Diner is really really disgusting.  The wait staff looks like they haven't bathed in the last ten years.  We no longer go there. lol

The Mark Twain has definitely seen better days.  It used to be a very good diner in the 80's but started going downhill in the 90's and I would never eat anything other than breakfast there.  I'm not sure if anyone remembers that a tuxedo executive was kidnapped in their parking lot in the early 90's and held captive for about two weeks in a dirt hole on the side of the west side highway.  It was front page news.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Chuckster on June 06, 2010, 07:11:34 PM
The Mark Twain has definitely seen better days.  It used to be a very good diner in the 80's but started going downhill in the 90's and I would never eat anything other than breakfast there.  I'm not sure if anyone remembers that a tuxedo executive was kidnapped in their parking lot in the early 90's and held captive for about two weeks in a dirt hole on the side of the west side highway.  It was front page news.

Here's a link to a 1993 New York Times article on what eddiestjohns posted above:

Kidnapped Executive Is Rescued After 13 Days in Manhattan Crypt (http://www.nytimes.com/1993/08/17/nyregion/kidnapped-executive-is-rescued-after-13-days-in-manhattan-crypt.html?pagewanted=all)

BTW, Mr. Weinstien, the kidnap victim, died in 2007.  From The New York Times:

Harvey Weinstein, 82, Kidnapping Victim Who Kept His Cool, Dies (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/25/nyregion/25weinstein.html)
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Shelby2 on June 06, 2010, 07:41:44 PM
Wow, amazing story.  Guess the Law and Order writers never had to work too hard with these kinds of things going on in the city!
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: FoxyWiles on June 10, 2010, 10:58:44 PM
Sorry, I have to say that the Mark Twain Diner is really really disgusting.  The wait staff looks like they haven't bathed in the last ten years.  We no longer go there. lol

I refuse to eat at Mark Twain Diner now. I used to like the fact that I could get a blt or cheeseburger and onion rings delivered really late (I work as a line cook in Manhattan, so I have weird hours). One night I ordered a "spinach salad". When it was delivered, I realized they had confused my order. I called up and instead of sending a new one, the guy on the phone made it seem like it was my fault and was extremely rude. Working in the restaurant industry, I'm used to better customer service and was appalled at how he handled the situation. They obviously do not care about customer service. Mark Twain Diner is on "My List".
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: masalamama on June 17, 2010, 11:31:59 PM
Ricky's--meh, unimpressed
City Coffee--they may wait on you but you "wait" on them
Jahn's--they refill coffee well, food ok
Jackson Hole -- decent
Mark Twain -- awful service and WAY overpriced
Will try Jackson House, I never have.  Thanks for the recommend.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: abcdefghijk on October 19, 2015, 01:50:07 PM
I have always thought that CITY COFFEE on 37th Ave between 77th and 78th Street, next to Lemon Farm... would make an AWESOME cafe...without too massive a shake-up...

At the moment it looks very uninviting...stuck in some 1983 time warp...(and not interesting 80's let me add)...And I have never even been tempted to go inside... But they definitely have the space and resources (and perfect location) there...to create something enticing and very popular. Someone even told me their food is ok.  Is that right? 

Jeffsayyes...go in and give them some advice...


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Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: dssjh on October 19, 2015, 06:10:32 PM
city coffee serves up good, slightly above average, diner food. the burgers are actually worth stopping in for. they do a "mexican" one that's incredibly messy but tasty. and i have a soft spot for old fashioned turkey (or roast beef) dinners with gravy and mashed potatoes. the turkey is actually from a bird, the potatoes from potatoes and the gravy not too bad. same turkey on the club sandwich.

not a gold star, destination place, but there are times when one (if one is me) wants simple comfort food, middle american style.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: abcdefghijk on October 20, 2015, 08:57:54 AM
Since you go into City Coffee....Dssjh....perhaps you can suggest to them that they update their decor.  To make their establishment more enticing. At the moment it screams..."doesn't give two hoots about atmosphere". And atmosphere, as well as good food, is imperative in getting new customers through the front door.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: ptbass75 on October 20, 2015, 04:00:08 PM
 I have to agree regarding city coffee. I've been there several times for brunch and I've had some mixed experiences with the servers, with some being slow and a bit on the cranky side. That, coupled with the aged decor and that many times when I walk past there is one maybe two tables occupied at best, doesn't inspire me to return very often.

 The Decour plus the lack of  customers give  me the feeling that the food isn't that fresh. I know it may be in my mind, but image is important.

I think it is popular with some of JH's older residemts.  i have also seen Jose Peralta and Danny Dromm there.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: dssjh on October 20, 2015, 04:29:42 PM
i'm not a "regular," but i could pass on the message, sure. it never bothered me all that much...outdated surroundings never put me off of a dining establishment, i guess. dirt and dinginess, yes, but not mere age.

Since you go into City Coffee....Dssjh....perhaps you can suggest to them that they update their decor.  To make their establishment more enticing. At the moment it screams..."doesn't give two hoots about atmosphere". And atmosphere, as well as good food, is imperative in getting new customers through the front door.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: European on October 20, 2015, 05:01:16 PM

Juju's is the best. Sami and crew are gems. I also do K&L at times, Sami doesn't do normal egg sandwiches on a roll. Try to give them both business.

I was surprised to see that strollers are not allowed at Juju's. Is this only for sitting area, or am I not allowed to enter and buy something with a stroller?  :-\  :o

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Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Songodd on October 20, 2015, 05:45:03 PM
Since you go into City Coffee....Dssjh....perhaps you can suggest to them that they update their decor.  To make their establishment more enticing. At the moment it screams..."doesn't give two hoots about atmosphere". And atmosphere, as well as good food, is imperative in getting new customers through the front door.

Maybe get better designed signs for the specials, and they could consider showing local art at least to dress up the walls. In addition, maybe simple things like colorful table clothes or other cost effective means to spruce up the place.

They might do well if they had better dessert most of what Ive eaten there is stale.  In defense, they do have pretty good breakfast and probably sat and sun am is where they make their money.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: dssjh on October 20, 2015, 07:31:09 PM

Juju's is the best. Sami and crew are gems. I also do K&L at times, Sami doesn't do normal egg sandwiches on a roll. Try to give them both business.

I was surprised to see that strollers are not allowed at Juju's. Is this only for sitting area, or am I not allowed to enter and buy something with a stroller?  :-\  :o

there's literally NO room in JuJu's for a stroller. it's difficult to navigate the place on foot, given how narrow it is....two people standing together make it a tight fit at the counter, and there's no place in the seating area for a stroller unless it's actually on top of the dining table.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: ljr on October 20, 2015, 08:53:21 PM
I've had the same thought about City Coffee--it could be a really nice diner-type place but I have to say that both times I ate there I found the food to be sub-par. Someone said above average--I disagree. For me it was below average--but it could be that some dishes are better than others. It's usually mostly empty. I wonder why they don't make more of an effort. We've seen the transformation of K&L recently--they really improved their setting and their offerings, joined Seamless, now offer delivery, where they used to only offer delivery during the day. And every time I go in there, they seem quite busy. It's now very popular for people who want a simple deli-type breakfast or lunch. City Coffee could be so much better than it is. Also, Ricky's is another diner that could be great but isn't quite there. I think their dinners are quite good--nice fresh veggies, good salads, good entrees. We sometimes order dinner from them and really like the food. But we went for brunch recently and it was disappointing to the point that I won't go there for brunch again. Lousy bread/toast, anemic omelet and they did not have any fruit of any kind, which is so weird for a diner-type place. Also no home fries, just french fries. I was surprised that it was so inconsistent.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Chuckster on October 21, 2015, 10:44:28 AM
There was a time when City Coffee was a great option for breakfast on weekends and holidays.  Lately, it goes unnoticed, even on days like Mother's Day when in the past, the line of folks waiting for a table would be out the door.  A while back, I mentioned a few of the coffee shop's shortcomings to the owner's daughter.  While she did listen patiently, she gave me the impression that her dad wouldn't be open to much change.  I agree with a previous poster in that City Coffee has a loyal following in the community's long-term residents.  That said, I still think the coffee shop has the potential to successfully serve a larger clientele, given an improved business plan.  It's a nice sized space that can accommodate lots of customers, so it would be great to see this family business succeed.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Liz on October 21, 2015, 02:23:14 PM
I'm wondering if we should open a new thread - City Coffee - fan or foe?
I am a fan!  Recently they got their liquor license, so I can now have a beer or wine with my Mexican Burger - which is an excellent burger and the fries are great.  I personally feel that their Mexican Burger is one of the finer things in life.  I like their breakfasts, in particular the Mexican ones - which could cure most anything as far as I am concerned.  They have both red and green hot sauce.  As far as I am concerned - that makes for an excellent decor.  I adore the big long table in the middle even though I never sit there, and I like the photo montage on the wall.  I DON'T want all the restaurants in the neighborhood to be gentrified.  That's why I live in New York.  I like diversity in the people I live with, the people I work with, and the establishments I patronize.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: francis on October 21, 2015, 03:29:37 PM
I'm really looking forward for The opening of Cafe Bene. I've eaten in their Manhattan location several times and enjoyed it. The food was fresh nd there were plenty of healthy options. As far as City coffee . ... I ate there once and never again. Instant mash potatoes ....REALLY?  The burger Tasted like mystery meat the and the string beans were right out of a can. Don't know if they got their act together since then, but once was enough for me.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: JackM on October 21, 2015, 03:32:19 PM
I am also a fan of City Diner.  Hey guys--it's a diner.  You want Parkside go to Parkside.  You want M Wells go to M Wells.  Diner is a euphemism for homey.  I love the unpretentiousness of the décor.  I lover the tasty diner menu.  I don't go there looking for a fine steak or foie gras.  I go for a hearty breakfast or burger/sandwich.  It's as good diner food as most and better than some.  I do like the Mexican spin (if you chose that.)  I go there whenever I'm in the mood for diner food.  No frills.  The basics and inexpensive.  Yeah, Dromm and Peralta eat there because they also understand what it is.  I'm all for new hip places moving in but I like a range of choices and not everything to be about décor and surface.  My fear about Café Bene is that's just what it will be.  A slick marketed coffee place owned by a giant Korean conglomerate.  It may have its place in JH but so does City Coffee (even more so.) 
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: ptbass75 on October 21, 2015, 10:43:29 PM
I think a great example re: renovations would be The Mark Twain/Jax Inn conversion.  Ten years ago, I'd only go into Mark Twain when Ihop was over a half hour wait.  And it still was empty!  Then once the grading system began it recieved a C and Im assuming the rest was history.

Soon thereafter the place was renovated, they added a few new items on the menu and made the joint look NICE (wouldnt say trendy, or hip, just nice and dinery) and now it's lines out the door on the weekend.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Breezie on October 22, 2015, 04:47:46 AM
I'm wondering if we should open a new thread - City Coffee - fan or foe?
I am a fan!  Recently they got their liquor license, so I can now have a beer or wine with my Mexican Burger - which is an excellent burger and the fries are great.  I personally feel that their Mexican Burger is one of the finer things in life.  I like their breakfasts, in particular the Mexican ones - which could cure most anything as far as I am concerned.  They have both red and green hot sauce.  As far as I am concerned - that makes for an excellent decor.  I adore the big long table in the middle even though I never sit there, and I like the photo montage on the wall.  I DON'T want all the restaurants in the neighborhood to be gentrified.  That's why I live in New York.  I like diversity in the people I live with, the people I work with, and the establishments I patronize.
The owners of City Coffee  ironically are Peruvian.  George gets teased that he "looks" Mexican. Even my Peruvian ex husband has mentioned it to him. George goes to the butcher to choose his own meat. In the 10 years we have patronized City Coffee "we" (my teenage daughter in particular) have not been disappointed with their steaks as a result.
A traditional great diner we are lacking in the area. I am unimpressed with Jax Inn, Ricky's, ir even Georgia Diner in Elmhurst on Queens  Blvd. How is Jackson House these days on 37th?
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: jeanette on October 22, 2015, 08:20:49 AM
The employees at Jackson House treat you really well, allowed me to use el banyo without being a customer (i felt bad though and ordered a coffee anyway). BUT, i saw the owner once doing something that... was a turn off for me.

I went only once to Jax Inn. Not my thing.

Somebody told me last week they love Jahn's.

Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: CaptainFlannel on October 22, 2015, 09:04:40 AM
Does Ricky's have a different dinner menu? I went in there a couple weeks ago for a quick lunch, and it was bad. The menu was pretty much all things that come out of a deep fryer or a grill - burgers, grilled cheese sandwich, french fries, etc. That would be fine, but what the burger I got came on the cheapest, low quality bun imaginable. Worse even than what you'd get at McDonald's or Burger King. But hey, a burger, fries and a soda was around $6. My take was that it's fine for what it is, but I wouldn't be going there very often.

I like Jahn's for breakfast and basic diner food. But, we tried one of the Greek dishes once and were disappointed. Now, it's a diner so we're realistic about the food quality -- we don't expect 5 star dining -- but considering it's a diner and has placemats about Greece, we thought we could reasonably expect decently passable Greek dishes. Wrong. It was terrible.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: JH3525 on October 22, 2015, 11:06:41 AM
At Ricky's, I usually order the Chicken Picatta or Chicken Francese both very good and a bargain at $10.95.  It comes with one side.  I usually have steamed mixed vegetable.   Ask for the menu which is usually on the counter and you'll see all the dinner specials which are various pasta dishes, fish, poultry and meats.  I usually have delivery which is fairly prompt. 
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: pipman on October 22, 2015, 10:52:13 PM
Beyond burgers or eggs, the only diner style restaurant that I like in the neighborhood is Ricky's.  I live in the 80s so I have to walk pass Jackson Heights Diner, Jahn's and City Coffee Shop.   The house salad at Ricky's is always fresh and I actually often crave their eggplant parmagiana and spaghetti carbonara platters for dinner. 
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Songodd on October 23, 2015, 08:13:12 AM
Beyond burgers or eggs, the only diner style restaurant that I like in the neighborhood is Ricky's.  I live in the 80s so I have to walk pass Jackson Heights Diner, Jahn's and City Coffee Shop.   The house salad at Ricky's is always fresh and I actually often crave their eggplant parmagiana and spaghetti carbonara platters for dinner.

Rickys also has a pretty good breakfast.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: JHres on October 23, 2015, 08:54:17 AM
Re City Coffee: if you're into nostalgia, they have a great chicken and rice soup for lunch. I've had two in a go on occasion. It's the same old NY chicken and rice soup recipe I had when I first came to NY in the mid 70s.

I would like to add that my wife and I have always found the staff there charming.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: JHres on October 23, 2015, 08:57:49 AM
It was my daughter who alerted us to the chicken soup, she devoured it when she was pregnant.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Ro on October 27, 2015, 10:39:03 AM
Not a diner, but I want to give a thumbs up to Juquila Mexican Cuisine for breakfast. Just on the other side or Roosevelt on 83rd, their breakfast specials are terrific. http://juquilamexicancuisine.com/morning-menu/3004866 My daughter and I went this past Sunday. It was around 11:30, and we passed Jackson House, which had a line out the door. Juquila was not busy. The decor is so much better than the diners/coffee shops in the hood, and the food was great. The home fries were amazing! Bore no relation to the pale, mushy home fries the coffee shops make. The toasted Mexican bread was so good! My daughter was in heaven, dipping the bread in her egg yolk. The coffee was also excellent. Served, of course, with hot milk. I don't even bother with the swill at the coffee shops.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: ptbass75 on October 27, 2015, 03:05:06 PM
I'll second Juquila for breakfast.  Plenty of space, never crowded, CLEAN, and their huevos rancheros are phenomenal!
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: mchafkin on October 27, 2015, 10:07:51 PM
well if we're expanding the scope of the discussion slightly, I'd like to throw in another sorta-diner, Rico Tinto. It doesn't look all that different from the other Colombian bakeries on and around 37th ave, but there's an ambition and care in the preparation that's really impressive. I think it's the best place for breakfast or lunch in the entire neighborhood. Good coffee too.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: hfm on October 28, 2015, 12:31:41 AM
well if we're expanding the scope of the discussion slightly, I'd like to throw in another sorta-diner, Rico Tinto. It doesn't look all that different from the other Colombian bakeries on and around 37th ave, but there's an ambition and care in the preparation that's really impressive. I think it's the best place for breakfast or lunch in the entire neighborhood. Good coffee too.

I go in for pastries all the time on the weekends and the brunch plates look really good. We just haven't tried it yet but it's on our to-do.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Ms. Jackson on October 28, 2015, 07:29:42 AM
well if we're expanding the scope of the discussion slightly, I'd like to throw in another sorta-diner, Rico Tinto. It doesn't look all that different from the other Colombian bakeries on and around 37th ave, but there's an ambition and care in the preparation that's really impressive. I think it's the best place for breakfast or lunch in the entire neighborhood. Good coffee too.

I had the shrimp tacos at Rico Tinto, recently. They are amazing! I would have prefered 1 more shrimp per taco (there are 2 medium shrimp in each), but they are so good I'll get them again.

As far as diners go, I prefer Jahn's and Jax Inn.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: JHMNY on February 12, 2018, 03:28:16 PM
No more City Coffee now that Arepa Lady has acquired the space on 37th Avenue.  I'm a bit sad to see it go since it's been a fixture in Jackson Heights for a long time, but feel excited at the same time for what's to come.  Wishing the City Coffee family all the best going forward.

I came across news about another well-known diner's impending closure.  The Georgia Diner, located on Queens Blvd. in Elmhurst is scheduled to close its doors on March 25th. 

From the Queens Chronicle:  Georgia Diner in Elmhurst to close March 25 (http://www.qchron.com/editions/central/georgia-diner-in-elmhurst-to-close-march/article_eff89aa6-102c-11e8-aab4-572e165c6255.html)

Permits were approved for an 18-story, 181-foot-tall mixed-use tower at that site, and Singh (general manager) told the Chronicle that demolition of the diner is to make way for the structure — which is under construction.

The general manager added that about 50 people work at the Georgia Diner, and the most senior employees will be transferred to its sister eatery, the Nevada Diner ­— which will be rebranded with the Georgia name — a few blocks away at 80-26 Queens Blvd.

Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: hfm on February 12, 2018, 10:10:07 PM
We finally ate at Rico Tinto. Food was amazing and fairly priced. A gem.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Simka on February 25, 2018, 09:05:40 PM
No more City Coffee now that Arepa Lady has acquired the space on 37th Avenue.  I'm a bit sad to see it go since it's been a fixture in Jackson Heights for a long time, but feel excited at the same time for what's to come.  Wishing the City Coffee family all the best going forward.
Is City Coffee already gone? I haven't been over that way for a few weeks. I always wanted to stop in there sometime. It looked like it was a time capsule from another era.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: JHMNY on February 26, 2018, 11:13:43 AM
Is City Coffee already gone? I haven't been over that way for a few weeks. I always wanted to stop in there sometime. It looked like it was a time capsule from another era.

Yes, City Coffee has closed its doors, and the people behind Arepa Lady have begun the process of working on its interior.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Simka on March 01, 2018, 12:09:42 AM
Is City Coffee already gone? I haven't been over that way for a few weeks. I always wanted to stop in there sometime. It looked like it was a time capsule from another era.

Yes, City Coffee has closed its doors, and the people behind Arepa Lady have begun the process of working on its interior.
Well, gee. I'm sorry I never got to go there, but I'm glad the Arepa Lady is taking over the space.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Lilybell on March 01, 2018, 09:45:59 AM
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well if we're expanding the scope of the discussion slightly, I'd like to throw in another sorta-diner, Rico Tinto

I agree wholeheartedly! I really like their breakfast options. I've only eaten lunch there once, but that was good as well. 
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: JHMNY on March 01, 2018, 11:18:07 AM
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well if we're expanding the scope of the discussion slightly, I'd like to throw in another sorta-diner, Rico Tinto

I agree wholeheartedly! I really like their breakfast options. I've only eaten lunch there once, but that was good as well.

I also enjoy the breakfast options at Rico Tinto.  I just wish they would offer some alternative for whole milk for coffee drinkers.  On most occasions, I either bring in coffee I've purchased elsewhere, or just drink water.  Not a fan of it, but I'm surprised they don't carry half n half.  City Coffee also only carried whole milk.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: ljr on March 01, 2018, 05:19:47 PM
El Rico Tinto has very good food and I don't understand why they don't seem to do any business later in the day. And what's with the tables moving in and out of the front section? With no tables there, the place looks half closed or something when you walk by. For a while it looked like they were trying to have an early dinner crowd, but now it looks like they gave up on that.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: francis on March 01, 2018, 05:33:58 PM
I like the food here very much and think they should do a dinner service as well....maybe put some candles on the table an serve some good wine/beers.  Last time I was there, they also had bought the front tables to the back but I think they were having some sort of party in the back and needed an extra table or two. Just guessing.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: hum@njukebox1 on March 01, 2018, 05:38:26 PM
I've lived here for 9 years and always thought El Rico Tinto was simply a bakery.  I doubt anyone walking by would think any differently. 
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Gordan on March 01, 2018, 09:09:50 PM
I like the food here very much and think they should do a dinner service as well....maybe put some candles on the table an serve some good wine/beers.  Last time I was there, they also had bought the front tables to the back but I think they were having some sort of party in the back and needed an extra table or two. Just guessing.

Well, you got your wish because I was eating in there tonight and talking to the owner, found out they are indeed applying for a liquor license and want to expand into a later dinner service. I'm sure whatever they do will be just as good as what they have going on in the day.

I actually started eating there a while back because whenever I walked by, the food people were eating always looked good. I was blown away when I finally did eat there....
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: frances on March 01, 2018, 09:32:17 PM
They might not do dinner business because they don't have a beer/wine license, but they serve food that wants to be consumed with beer or wine.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: Jeffsayyes on March 01, 2018, 11:01:14 PM
I have always been surprised by how good the dinners have been.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: dssjh on March 01, 2018, 11:13:01 PM
I've lived here for 9 years and always thought El Rico Tinto was simply a bakery.  I doubt anyone walking by would think any differently.

we've been enjoying their food for dinner for four or so years now. they didn't exist nine years ago -- it was still Carollo Bakery back then.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: hum@njukebox1 on March 02, 2018, 11:21:07 AM
And therein lies the problem........it still looks like a bakery.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: ljr on March 02, 2018, 03:32:28 PM
I've lived here for 9 years and always thought El Rico Tinto was simply a bakery.  I doubt anyone walking by would think any differently.

we've been enjoying their food for dinner for four or so years now. they didn't exist nine years ago -- it was still Carollo Bakery back then.

You mean you eat in for dinner at El Rico Tinto? They always seem empty by 6:30 or 7:00? You eat dinner early?
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: dssjh on March 02, 2018, 04:02:25 PM
eat in or get delivery (which they do until eight). i can eat at seven. or ten, or later, depending on the mood. i dunno, it's looked like a restaurant to me ever since they added the tables. but others' results may vary.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: dssjh on March 02, 2018, 04:03:02 PM
eat in or get delivery (which they do until eight). i can eat at seven. or ten, or later, depending on the mood and the place i want to eat. i dunno, it's looked like a restaurant to me ever since they added the tables. but others' results may vary.
Title: Re: Diners / Coffee Shops
Post by: hfm on March 02, 2018, 09:32:49 PM
El Rico Tinto has very good food and I don't understand why they don't seem to do any business later in the day. And what's with the tables moving in and out of the front section? With no tables there, the place looks half closed or something when you walk by. For a while it looked like they were trying to have an early dinner crowd, but now it looks like they gave up on that.

It was jammed at dinner time the last couple times I was there.