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Neighborhood Chat / Re: Growing Farm 76-31 37th Ave shuttered
« Last post by pajarita on Yesterday at 11:02:23 PM »
Maple - According to the online records I linked before, that corporation has owned the building since 1977, so records before then will be difficult to access.

Jeffsayyes - I understand your claim that ERT was a gentrifying force, but I fundamentally disagree since the business catered to the neighborhood as it is, not to a clientele it wished for. All people in the neighborhood could be seen there and the atmosphere made people feel welcome.

My original statement has been misconstrued: nowhere did I state or imply that white people were the ones to blame for their closing. As neighbors, we all contribute to and shape our neighborhood through our actions. I am against those who act to change the neighborhood into something they want it to be without consideration for (or inclusion of) the existing residents and cultures of Jackson Heights. These considerations are particularly relevant given the existing links between race, class, and power that have so indelibly shaped the history of New York and the country as a whole.

To answer your question clearly: I am upset only with gentrifiers acting in bad faith (as defined in the above statement).

Finally at this point, I realize that my commentary on gentrification, at large, maybe tangential to this particular thread. However, I feel that it was important to voice it in a broad setting. Most on the thread believe the closing of ERT is due solely to a rent increase, so I chimed in with information I gathered. The co-op complaints I spoke of were verified, though supposedly directed at the landlord rather than the business as I originally heard. Regardless, my source directly linked these complaints to the closing of the establishment. This, like all the other information we know about the situation thus far, is conjecture. Let's hope we can get closer to the truth.
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Neighborhood Chat / Re: Growing Farm 76-31 37th Ave shuttered
« Last post by Maple on Yesterday at 10:47:37 PM »
Such bad news! Growing Farm is my go-to fruit and vegetable store. I was just there the other day, and I didn't notice anything amiss. The cashiers are always friendly, even though the cat isn't. I hope that they and El Rinco Tinto, another favorite place-- the best empanadas, always fresh sweet bready treats-- will be coming back.

That the landlord is a corporation in Arizona is ominous. Does anyone know who owned these buildings previously?
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Neighborhood Chat / Re: The one guy in JH who can always find parking
« Last post by Jeffsayyes on Yesterday at 09:05:27 PM »
Please do not judge Jews by this guy
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Neighborhood Chat / Re: Growing Farm 76-31 37th Ave shuttered
« Last post by Jeffsayyes on Yesterday at 09:00:53 PM »
Heart broken that ERT and GF are gone..
I heard that in the case of ERT, the co-op behind the stores (including a well-connected resident of the building) have been filing continuous complaints against the business because they were unhappy with their garbage practices. These complaints reached the landlord, and after legal action ERT has been locked out - and I hear the landlord doesn't want them back. IMO, if their outside practices were analogous to their inside practices, they always kept a very clean and orderly restaurant/cafe.

If true, this is a textbook example of what happens when a neighborhood gentrifies. Well-heeled new comers are investing in properties here with the expectation of changing the neighborhood to their tastes rather than embracing it. I have encountered people who have recently moved here from UES and complained about certain places being too "ethnic". I just hope that this is not how the majority of newcomers feel and that such complaints (like those made by the co-op in question) remain reasonable.
It is important to realize this is not just affecting store owners, but also people who work and live here that consider these establishments as community hubs.


Sorry but if anything, Rico Tinto was gentrifying the neighborhood. I believe it is the only Colombian or Mexican restaurant that far west and it was more expensive than others (although still very reasonable). Just bc they are not born here (I have no idea if they are or not, but I try not to just blanket "white") does not mean they cannot gentrify. Flushing is incredibly gentrified by... not whites. SO are you mad at gentrification or just white people?
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Neighborhood Chat / Re: Growing Farm 76-31 37th Ave shuttered
« Last post by hagsrus on Yesterday at 07:59:45 PM »
Touched by the little notes people have left on the shutter at Growing Farm.

It must have been very sudden. Everything looked normal the day before. I wonder what's happened to the fruit and veg?
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Neighborhood Chat / Re: The one guy in JH who can always find parking
« Last post by jasonic on Yesterday at 07:35:56 PM »
Shocked a Hasidic

face palm
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Restaurants & Food / Re: El Rico Tinto Gone
« Last post by jasonic on Yesterday at 07:18:26 PM »
Who is this landlord?? First off the whole building is an eyesore then Two Swim Birds gets railroaded and now my favorite Mexican place and produce shop are closed?  Cmon man!
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Neighborhood Chat / Re: Growing Farm 76-31 37th Ave shuttered
« Last post by abcdefghijk on Yesterday at 06:05:35 PM »
jeanette - My post was written in clear language that stated what I know is just what I've heard - some information gathered while talking to people on the block (and hearing from a credible source). For fear of repercussions to anybody involved, I don't want to give names since what I'm discussing is just what I've heard. My further writing was a personal reflection/commentary on the situation in the case that this is true.

abcdefghijk - I understand your apprehension towards a new poster, however I've been a member of the site for almost one year and simply haven't posted until now. The recency of my membership to this site does not bear on the veracity of my input in this community discussion. The beauty of El Rico Tinto was that it catered to all in the neighborhood, including new comers/gentrifiers, without compromising on its authenticity. Perhaps I could've been more clear in my first post that I simply was conveying information that I had found while looking for answers.

ljr - Thank you for being forthright and sharing your knowledge - I wanted to start a conversation and that has happened. My commentary was based on that information I heard, which is clearly not all wrong if you have corroborated the complaints from the co-op. I am happy to know that the complaints weren't directed towards ERT, though the landlord may have pinned the problem on them. Alternatively, the problem could be a rent increase, as you stated, or something else entirely. I do hope that we can find out the full story soon.

I would appreciate being welcomed in this discussion, since like all of us, I care deeply about the neighborhood and its future. All of us sense that change is afoot, and I expressed my fears - fears that might have led me to misinterpret this situation, but that are nonetheless not unfounded.

I believe that telling tales about disharmony between Gringos and non-Gringos is never a positive stance.

I believe that open dialogue on very real issues, though uncomfortable for some, can be a positive tool that brings about discourse and may clear up misunderstandings.

To reiterate, like all those involved, I care deeply about the neighborhood and hope that all residents (both current and future; "gringo" and "non-gringo" because those two are not mutually exclusive) can respect the spirit of JH. And yes, IMO, it may entail discussing accounts of disharmony that shouldn't be disregarded.

From what I can read, you appear to be fabricating a link between what you may have heard into action against these establishments.  I think your conjecture is incorrect. There is a very big difference between what folks like and what they do.

To associate the two in your mind...merely fans the flames of a non-existent fire.
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Neighborhood Chat / Re: Growing Farm 76-31 37th Ave shuttered
« Last post by pajarita on Yesterday at 05:45:36 PM »
jeanette - My post was written in clear language that stated what I know is just what I've heard - some information gathered while talking to people on the block (and hearing from a credible source). For fear of repercussions to anybody involved, I don't want to give names since what I'm discussing is just what I've heard. My further writing was a personal reflection/commentary on the situation in the case that this is true.

abcdefghijk - I understand your apprehension towards a new poster, however I've been a member of the site for almost one year and simply haven't posted until now. The recency of my membership to this site does not bear on the veracity of my input in this community discussion. The beauty of El Rico Tinto was that it catered to all in the neighborhood, including new comers/gentrifiers, without compromising on its authenticity. Perhaps I could've been more clear in my first post that I simply was conveying information that I had found while looking for answers.

ljr - Thank you for being forthright and sharing your knowledge - I wanted to start a conversation and that has happened. My commentary was based on that information I heard, which is clearly not all wrong if you have corroborated the complaints from the co-op. I am happy to know that the complaints weren't directed towards ERT, though the landlord may have pinned the problem on them. Alternatively, the problem could be a rent increase, as you stated, or something else entirely. I do hope that we can find out the full story soon.

I would appreciate being welcomed in this discussion, since like all of us, I care deeply about the neighborhood and its future. All of us sense that change is afoot, and I expressed my fears - fears that might have led me to misinterpret this situation, but that are nonetheless not unfounded.

I believe that telling tales about disharmony between Gringos and non-Gringos is never a positive stance.

I believe that open dialogue on very real issues, though uncomfortable for some, can be a positive tool that brings about discourse and may clear up misunderstandings.

To reiterate, like all those involved, I care deeply about the neighborhood and hope that all residents (both current and future; "gringo" and "non-gringo" because those two are not mutually exclusive) can respect the spirit of JH. And yes, IMO, it may entail discussing accounts of disharmony that shouldn't be disregarded. 

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Neighborhood Chat / Re: Growing Farm 76-31 37th Ave shuttered
« Last post by jh35 on Yesterday at 04:47:06 PM »
I’m mostly concerned about the cat at GF. Hope it isn’t still inside.  >:(

Are you afraid it might be eaten by the rats?
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